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Old September 13, 2018, 18:57   #1
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James River JRA BM59 Recall

I've seen a PDF of a letter from a source I trust that there's at least a partial recall on the JRA BM59s, anybody have any details?
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I really hope what I've heard about the JRA cast receivers failing isn't true!

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Old September 14, 2018, 16:00   #2
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Old September 14, 2018, 16:42   #3
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I've seen a PDF of a letter from a source I trust that there's at least a partial recall on the JRA BM59s, anybody have any details?

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Can you post it here, or able to email it? I've got a JRA BM59 that I'm going to put up for sale soon. Would like to know which ones are affected.
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Old September 14, 2018, 18:00   #4
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As I understand it the recalls are on the JRA CAST RECEIVER BM59s. Tim Shuffin has posted on his website that he has discontinued any and all work on NON USGI receiver BM59 type rifles - the KEY words here are NON USGI receivers. The only thing he indicated that he would do is to remove such a receiver from an already built BM59 rifle and replace it with an appropriate USGI receiver
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As I understand it the recalls are on the JRA CAST RECEIVER BM59s. Tim Shuffin has posted on his website that he has discontinued any and all work on NON USGI receiver BM59 type rifles - the KEY words here are NON USGI receivers. The only thing he indicated that he would do is to remove such a receiver from an already built BM59 rifle and replace it with an appropriate USGI receiver

Non GI and NOT Non USGI. I'm happy to work on PB FK.
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Old September 14, 2018, 19:13   #6
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I stand corrected - its just that the others are so rare its easy to forget
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As I understand it the recalls are on the JRA CAST RECEIVER BM59s. Tim Shuffin has posted on his website that he has discontinued any and all work on NON USGI receiver BM59 type rifles - the KEY words here are NON USGI receivers. The only thing he indicated that he would do is to remove such a receiver from an already built BM59 rifle and replace it with an appropriate USGI receiver
What is the specific recall....other than the whole cast vs forged debate? Mine has a Bula cast receiver. It's non GI or USGI. So does that mean it falls into the "recall" category?
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Well i would like to know if this is a recall that may somehow affect my bula xm21 i recently bought,even though it is quite a different animal receiver wise.
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Old September 14, 2018, 21:18   #9
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Well i would like to know if this is a recall that may somehow affect my bula xm21 i recently bought,even though it is quite a different animal receiver wise.
Never heard any concerns with the forged XM21 receivers but if anyone's heard different I'd like to know as I also have a new XM21 barrelee receiver from Bula.
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Old September 14, 2018, 21:25   #10
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Well i would like to know if this is a recall that may somehow affect my bula xm21 i recently bought,even though it is quite a different animal receiver wise.
Would have nothing to do with the Bula products that I am aware of.
I have a bunch of XM21s in the herd and if there was a problem, I would have heard.
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Non GI and NOT Non USGI. I'm happy to work on PB FK.
Hey Shuff...How much is it to modify a PB or Garand Receiver.
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I'm going to call JRA Monday morning(pending the hurricane) to inquire about this possible recall on BM59 rifles. I've had great service and comms with them in the past. I will post my findings here.
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Hey Shuff...How much is it to modify a PB or Garand Receiver.
http://shuffsparkerizing.com/services/mag-fed-garand/
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Old September 16, 2018, 08:10   #14
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I don't know how to post a PDF, but a JPG of what I've seen has been added to the first post.

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Are there any pics of these failed receivers?
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Old September 17, 2018, 07:50   #16
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List of affected serial numbers?
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I've seen a PDF of a letter from a source I trust that there's at least a partial recall on the JRA BM59s, anybody have any details?
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I really hope what I've heard about the JRA cast receivers failing isn't true!

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Eli, thank you for posting this. I called JRA today but had to leave a voicemail. I imagine the storm is causing issues. If I can find any more information from them regarding this I will post it. By all means, if anyone knows the specific batch and or serial numbers, please post that information.
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Old September 17, 2018, 11:19   #18
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I just spoke with the lady at Sarco Gun Dept about this recall notice. She would not give me information on the exact details concerning the safety recall, nor would she give me any serial numbers of affected rifles. She did tell me that any individual(s) that purchased a JRA BM59 from them (Sarco) would have received this letter in the mail. Mine came from Classic Firearms. No response from Classic or JRA yet. In my opinion, it would be good if JRA would issue a statement on their website about this recall, specific problem(s) and serial numbers affected. This would at least make an awareness to users who purchased from other than Sarco, or even purchased a JRA BM59 used. But, I'm just a consumer so my opinion doesn't mean much.
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Old September 18, 2018, 00:26   #19
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Possible serial number range

From what I understand the range is 1497-1857, I had purchased a receiver from them in this range. There customer service took care of me and went above and beyond to rectify the situation.
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So what was wrong with it? Is it a big secret?
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what was wrong

The notice I got said the material in the casting was not to spec.
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From what I understand the range is 1497-1857, I had purchased a receiver from them in this range. There customer service took care of me and went above and beyond to rectify the situation.
Right on R Lloyd, thanks for posting this info. Btw, I spoke with Classic Firearms yesterday afternoon . They said they were aware of this JRA recall, but non of the JRA BM59 rifles sent to Classic are/were affected or involved in the recall.
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The notice I got said the material in the casting was not to spec.
I have customers telling me that the problem is a bit more worrisome then that.
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From what I understand the range is 1497-1857, I had purchased a receiver from them in this range. There customer service took care of me and went above and beyond to rectify the situation.
That is 360 receivers. I've read where folks say that 50 were affected but if this serial number range is right then no, 360 receivers were affected. There may only be 50 customers affected but not receivers. I also struggle with the tidy number of 50 customers. I'll say here what I've said on my forum and website, if I have worked on your BM59 with a cast receiver please contact your manufacturer and find out if you need to send your rifle back to the manufacturer. I have worked on MANY JRA rifles and do not want to be involved/associated/stuck in the middle of this. Until JRA comes makes these issues crystal clear on their website I will not work on anymore unless you want your JRA receiver replaced as well as the Bula barrel.
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That is 360 receivers. I've read where folks say that 50 were affected but if this serial number range is right then no, 360 receivers were affected. There may only be 50 customers affected but not receivers. I also struggle with the tidy number of 50 customers. I'll say here what I've said on my forum and website, if I have worked on your BM59 with a cast receiver please contact your manufacturer and find out if you need to send your rifle back to the manufacturer. I have worked on MANY JRA rifles and do not want to be involved/associated/stuck in the middle of this. Until JRA comes makes these issues crystal clear on their website I will not work on anymore unless you want your JRA receiver replaced as well as the Bula barrel.
Shuff....is there a problem(s) with the Bula barrels in the BM59s too?
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Shuff....is there a problem(s) with the Bula barrels in the BM59s too?
I seem to remember a 'soft recall' on Bula BM59 barrels due to chamber issues.

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Shuff....is there a problem(s) with the Bula barrels in the BM59s too?

Do a web search on it and see what their customers say. I have personally dealt with this issue on rifles that their customers have sent me.

JRA customers have been told to shoot certain ammo types...
Oddly on the Criterion barreled BM59 rifles I make, except for steel case, all US made ammunition seems to work. If you have a Schuster screw you can even shoot the big stuff.
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Interesting. The Web searches that I came up with dealt with some barrels being improperly cut in the chamber area. I was unable to locate if a specific date range on the barrels can prove which are/were affected. Surely this has been rectified? Maybe I got lucky that mine has a Bula receiver, and a Bula barrel that takes headspace guages fine and shoots fine. Thanks for the info.
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Hey gang. I spoke with JRA today regarding BM59 receiver recalls. Information I received was JRA cast receiver above serial number 1500 are subject, below are fine. Any Bula receiver is fine. I was also told most people affected should have received a letter. I would urge anyone with questions on this to call the place of purchase of your BM59, or call JRA direct to inquire. Note. I am in no way associated with JRA. I am just a consumer. Hope this helps. Thanks.
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