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Old April 14, 2019, 08:25   #1
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Last war didn't work out well .. let's have another

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/conc...ry?id=62360052

'New concerns Trump administration may be laying legal groundwork for military action against Iran ...' While Ron Paul says, "..you have not been given power or authority by Congress to have war with Iran " ... but ' ... the 'Use of Military Force', a law passed by Congress on Sept. 14, 2001. It provides the executive branch with broad authority to use force ... '


I know words and definitions don't mean much anymore but ... is a nation that makes almost endless military/economic war on others without provocation a terrorist group?
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Old April 14, 2019, 09:17   #2
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Ahh, but the President declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization just the other day.

Gotta get the words in order first, then.............................................. .....




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Old April 14, 2019, 09:34   #3
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Can't help but wonder if this has anything to Netanyahu's reelection.
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We are in a war here in America if you read the news feeds every day, socialism vs freedom. People are dying by the thousands, we are being invaded because the socialist opened the flood gates. So of course they want your attention turned else where.
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Old April 14, 2019, 11:06   #5
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We are in a war here in America if you read the news feeds every day, socialism vs freedom. People are dying by the thousands, we are being invaded because the socialist opened the flood gates. So of course they want your attention turned else where.
I don't think a war with Iran would be started as a diversion from domestic instability, Jim.
I think it is about the oil and the Petrodollar.

Iran has aligned with Russia and China to skirt the U.S. control of the flow of capital, and they are no doubt perceived as the weakest of the three, as they have no nuclear weapon capabilities that we know of.

Just my opinion, of course.
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Old April 14, 2019, 11:23   #6
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I don't think a war with Iran would be started as a diversion from domestic instability, Jim.
I think it is about the oil and the Petrodollar.

Iran has aligned with Russia and China to skirt the U.S. control of the flow of capital, and they are no doubt perceived as the weakest of the three, as they have no nuclear weapon capabilities that we know of.

Just my opinion, of course.
I don't know any more than what I read so I am no authority on the subject. Heck I don't know if what I read is true so really my opinion is probably worthless on any political subject. All I really know is what's out my front door and what affects me and of those things I have a good idea what I can change and what I cant.

By the news feeds we are being fed that war is comming with Iran, would the feeds ever lie to us? The news feeds say we are the biggest producer of oil and export more oil and natural gas than any other nation, can Iran change petroleum dollars when we control the oil supply? If the media is always telling lies to manipulate our thinking then what's the use in listening to them? What lie can they tell that affects what's out your door right at this moment?
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I don't know any more than what I read so I am no authority on the subject. Heck I don't know if what I read is true so really my opinion is probably worthless on any political subject. All I really know is what's out my front door and what affects me and of those things I have a good idea what I can change and what I cant.

By the news feeds we are being fed that war is comming with Iran, would the feeds ever lie to us? The news feeds say we are the biggest producer of oil and export more oil and natural gas than any other nation, can Iran change petroleum dollars when we control the oil supply? If the media is always telling lies to manipulate our thinking then what's the use in listening to them? What lie can they tell that affects what's out your door right at this moment?
Iran (Persia) has a rendezvous with destiny in the coming Ezekiel 38 War along with it's buddies-- Turkey (Gomer) Libya (Put) (Ethiopia(Cush) and the one and only Magog--RUSSIA! Going to be a doozy when this band of Outlaws attack Israel. Going to shake things up I tell you and it's getting closer by the day!
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Iran (Persia) has a rendezvous with destiny in the coming Ezekiel 38 War along with it's buddies-- Turkey (Gomer) Libya (Put) (Ethiopia(Cush) and the one and only Magog--RUSSIA! Going to be a doozy when this band of Outlaws attack Israel. Going to shake things up I tell you and it's getting closer by the day!
Let's see now, I am not saying it won't happen but none of the doom stories have come true in my 67 years. I haven't got many years left to worry so why worry at all?

In the 50s it was war with Russia was going to kill us all. In the sixties the comming ice age spelled doom for us all. In the 70s the economic crash was going to mad max our world. The 80s it was global warming was going to melt the ice caps and drown us all. The 90s were filled with Y2K doom. In the 2000 we have terrorist attacks and we must spy on everyone or doom will happen plus we must go to war and spend trillions we dont have. 2008 we have a banking crisis so we must expand or contract wisely or its mad max time with the worst depression ever.

Ahh the Russians are back and fixing our election and the Koreans are going to nuke us and the Chinese are stealing all our secrets.

Game of thrones is on tonight.
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Old April 14, 2019, 13:42   #10
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Let's see now, I am not saying it won't happen but none of the doom stories have come true in my 67 years. I haven't got many years left to worry so why worry at all?

In the 50s it was war with Russia was going to kill us all. In the sixties the comming ice age spelled doom for us all. In the 70s the economic crash was going to mad max our world. The 80s it was global warming was going to melt the ice caps and drown us all. The 90s were filled with Y2K doom. In the 2000 we have terrorist attacks and we must spy on everyone or doom will happen plus we must go to war and spend trillions we dont have. 2008 we have a banking crisis so we must expand or contract wisely or its mad max time with the worst depression ever.

Ahh the Russians are back and fixing our election and the Koreans are going to nuke us and the Chinese are stealing all our secrets.

Game of thrones is on tonight.
Remember What Jesus said--the Generation (70 years) that see's Israel return as a Nation will witness all these things. 70 years is up and look where we are at! Israel became a Nation again against all odds! Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel again! Worlds in utmost turmoil! Technology is present to Mark all people on Earth. Look around Jim--don't be blinded!
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Remember What Jesus said--the Generation (70 years) that see's Israel return as a Nation will witness all these things. 70 years is up and look where we are at! Israel became a Nation again against all odds! Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel again! Worlds in utmost turmoil! Technology is present to Mark all people on Earth. Look around Jim--don't be blinded!
If you read the list then you know I haven't been blind. 70 years ehhh? From 1948 that would have been when? Was that the Roman calender or the Gregorian? Well yes the Gospel has been preached all over the world and man has never had so much knowledge at his fingertips but more lies than knowledge is what man gets today.

Opinions shouldn't shape life decisions, only truth should. What we get is lies for us to form opinions from so how can the truth be found? I hope you have found in your bible your comming predictions and haven't accepted bible scholars as your only source. The news feeds can convince you of anything if you don't hold on to your foundation in God. If life doesn't turn out the way you have been told then don't blame God, blame those that fed you what to believe.
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Old April 14, 2019, 15:47   #12
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Ahh, but the President declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization just the other day.
Yes the irony of the world's largest terrorist organization calling others terrorists.





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Old April 14, 2019, 16:03   #13
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If you read the list then you know I haven't been blind. 70 years ehhh? From 1948 that would have been when? Was that the Roman calender or the Gregorian? Well yes the Gospel has been preached all over the world and man has never had so much knowledge at his fingertips but more lies than knowledge is what man gets today.

Opinions shouldn't shape life decisions, only truth should. What we get is lies for us to form opinions from so how can the truth be found? I hope you have found in your bible your comming predictions and haven't accepted bible scholars as your only source. The news feeds can convince you of anything if you don't hold on to your foundation in God. If life doesn't turn out the way you have been told then don't blame God, blame those that fed you what to believe.
Look at the world around you Jim. Is the Church dead or dying? Obvious. What religion is promoted now? Obvious(Islam to those living on Mars) Is America dead or dying? Obvious. Is Israel more hated than ever? Obvious. Is Evil promoted as Good and Good promoted as Evil? Obvious. Don't know how to help you decide what is best for you. I don't like repeating myself over and over on this thing that is before us. But I guarantee this--you havn't seen anything yet!
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Jim--I have some very important news I forgot to add to my last post that you can believe in. Do Not get a pet Cassowary--they are very dangerous to your well being.
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Iran existed under Soviet Slavery for over a decade during WWII
they did mass starvation there during WWII
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There is only one reason to go to war with Iran, ask any neocon!
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There is only one reason to go to war with Iran, ask any neocon!
Lot's of Bush assets in the area. Gotta tamp them down a little. Next thing ya know they'll want to play in the Arab sandbox.
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Iran's current rulers are nuts, they ain't that nuts to start a war with the USA.

Might run their gun boats out into the straight, get them sunk, rant and rave about the great evil empire, slink back to safe harbor, that's about it folks.

Iran has a large anti mullah's, anti government group of folks, if Iran comes down, should be from with in, with a little help from the outside.

Obammy had the chance to support these folks against their rulers, and walked away.

Can't see Trump doing that.

Might their nuclear areas take a hard hit, yelp.

By the USA, don't see it, others in the area, oh yea.

Trump has no need to start a shooting war with Iran, all he has to do,,,,is provide cover in the UN for those in the area that want to knock Iran hard off in their asses.

Plenty of countries in the middle east want the current Iranian crazies taken down hard.

And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,last I looked,,,,,,,,Trump ain;t got us into anymore NEW wars any where and has been pulling troops out of where we have been.
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The PTB care not a wit about millions of mestizos swarming into the country because they think they are isolated and immune to any negative consequences, IMHO. They are only interested on power and wealth... for themselves. If your sons and daughters are slaughtered on some far away skirmish or battle, they don't give a shit. They'll just tell the family they should be PROUD of how their offspring "sacrificed for our freedom and liberty". Most American buy that bullshit because they have been systematically indoctrinated to believe it.
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ABC news trying to scare people about the Trump administration. That's unusual (kidding). I seriously doubt The President has in mind a ground war in Iran. It isn't his style.

That said, I'm not to happy with us waging economic war all over the world. How about we lead by example and leave folks alone?
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Look at the world around you Jim. Is the Church dead or dying? Obvious. What religion is promoted now? Obvious(Islam to those living on Mars) Is America dead or dying? Obvious. Is Israel more hated than ever? Obvious. Is Evil promoted as Good and Good promoted as Evil? Obvious. Don't know how to help you decide what is best for you. I don't like repeating myself over and over on this thing that is before us. But I guarantee this--you havn't seen anything yet!
Just saying, who told you these are the signs of the return? Point of view is we have a bible and we have folks telling us prophecy so which is the word of God? What will it do to every man's faith if they believed something that never came true? I am not saying what you believe isn't true but the timing or events prophesied may not be if they are not confirmed by your bible.

It's not I don't believe in prophecy, it's I don't believe the lies of the media telling us what is happening.

Edited to add, there have always been doom cults that say the world is about to end.
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'New concerns Trump administration may be laying legal groundwork for military action against Iran ...' While Ron Paul says, "..you have not been given power or authority by Congress to have war with Iran " ... but ' ... the 'Use of Military Force', a law passed by Congress on Sept. 14, 2001. It provides the executive branch with broad authority to use force ... '


I know words and definitions don't mean much anymore but ... is a nation that makes almost endless military/economic war on others without provocation a terrorist group?
In 1979 Iranians invaded our embassy and held Americans captive,,, in my book the statute of limitations has not run out on the outrage.
Iran should be a big grease spot in the desert now,,, that glows in the dark,,, glowing in the dark is their ultimate goal for you and I,,, pay f**king attention.

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Just saying, who told you these are the signs of the return? Point of view is we have a bible and we have folks telling us prophecy so which is the word of God? What will it do to every man's faith if they believed something that never came true? I am not saying what you believe isn't true but the timing or events prophesied may not be if they are not confirmed by your bible.

It's not I don't believe in prophecy, it's I don't believe the lies of the media telling us what is happening.

Edited to add, there have always been doom cults that say the world is about to end.
Jim---Don't take my word for it--take the Word of Jesus Christ in Mathew 24. He breaks down precisely what to look for before His return to Planet Earth. From the "falling away of Christian faith" to the false prophets, to the Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel in the Old Testament. This is what I go by, not what someone says on the internet. All the prophecies confirm what is written in Mathew 24. All the things written are happening today, some have happened in the past--but don't forget the clincher--Israel is a Nation now. The countdown began in 1948 when Israel became a Nation. This is the Generation. Read your Bible --can you read it? I know Roman Catholicism only allows the Priest to read scripture and interpret what is correct. Roman Catholicism is the End Times Whore of Revelation and it wants to keep you in the dark. You don't like to hear that but the truth is usually always painful. Don't feel your false religion is the only one--all religions are corrupted now--but Roman Catholicism is the big Kahuna that rides the coming Beast of Revelation.
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Jim---Don't take my word for it--take the Word of Jesus Christ in Mathew 24. He breaks down precisely what to look for before His return to Planet Earth. From the "falling away of Christian faith" to the false prophets, to the Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel in the Old Testament. This is what I go by, not what someone says on the internet. All the prophecies confirm what is written in Mathew 24. All the things written are happening today, some have happened in the past--but don't forget the clincher--Israel is a Nation now. The countdown began in 1948 when Israel became a Nation. This is the Generation. Read your Bible --can you read it? I know Roman Catholicism only allows the Priest to read scripture and interpret what is correct. Roman Catholicism is the End Times Whore of Revelation and it wants to keep you in the dark. You don't like to hear that but the truth is usually always painful. Don't feel your false religion is the only one--all religions are corrupted now--but Roman Catholicism is the big Kahuna that rides the coming Beast of Revelation.
Don't throw rocks dude, not until you have walked in another man's shoes. You can admonish people to follow your belief but don't insult a man over his. My faith is guided by my religion along with my personal belief in Christ as the son of God. What happens day to day in the world I have no control over. There is nothing I can say or do that will change anything. If Christ comes back then everyone gets their answer and if he doesn't then I never wasted a moment of life following him.

I am going to move along to another thread, good luck with what will come.
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In 1979 Iranians invaded our embassy and held Americans captive,,, in my book the statute of limitations has not run out on the outrage.
Iran should be a big grease spot in the desert now,,, that glows in the dark,,, glowing in the dark is their ultimate goal for you and I,,, pay f**king attention.
Has the statute of limitations run out on the US/UK coup against Iranian Prime Minister Mosaddegh and the installation of good old boy Reza Pahlavi? I guess it has!
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WWII lasted from 1939 to 1945 for Russia. That's not a decade the last time I counted.

They did mass starvation in Leningrad too. My wife's aunt lived through it and became barren because of it. So what is your point?
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Don't throw rocks dude, not until you have walked in another man's shoes. You can admonish people to follow your belief but don't insult a man over his. My faith is guided by my religion along with my personal belief in Christ as the son of God. What happens day to day in the world I have no control over. There is nothing I can say or do that will change anything. If Christ comes back then everyone gets their answer and if he doesn't then I never wasted a moment of life following him.

I am going to move along to another thread, good luck with what will come.
Getting Jim--1st sign of a painful truth!

Do you read the Bible Jim? Probably not.

Do you understand the Prophecies written in the Bible? No

Do you think you are "Saved" by the Roman Catholic Church because you were sprinkled with Holy Water as a baby? Probably yes

Do you take and eat the Wafer God of Roman Catholicism? Probably yes if you are a good Catholic

Do you pray to Mary and the Dead Saints(weird) Probably yes if you are a good Catholic

Do you pray with Rosary Beads? Who knows

I can go on and on about the false religion of Roman Catholicism and it's Works System for Salvation. It's belief of "Purgatory" where family's must pay their loved ones out of a fairytale place is another big scam. Roman Catholicism/Islam is the Worlds biggest Hoax that has killed more humans, started more wars and sent more humans too Hell than any ideology on Planet Earth and will be exposed and destroyed in the very near future when Jesus Christ returns to Rule with a Rod of Iron. The Mother of Harlots in Revelation 18:4 is the Roman Catholic Church and a voice from Heaven warns "Come out of her my people" You need to flee that evil religious system Jim.
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Jim---Don't take my word for it--take the Word of Jesus Christ in Mathew 24. He breaks down precisely what to look for before His return to Planet Earth. From the "falling away of Christian faith" to the false prophets, to the Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel in the Old Testament. This is what I go by, not what someone says on the internet. All the prophecies confirm what is written in Mathew 24. All the things written are happening today, some have happened in the past--but don't forget the clincher--Israel is a Nation now. The countdown began in 1948 when Israel became a Nation. This is the Generation. Read your Bible --can you read it? I know Roman Catholicism only allows the Priest to read scripture and interpret what is correct. Roman Catholicism is the End Times Whore of Revelation and it wants to keep you in the dark. You don't like to hear that but the truth is usually always painful. Don't feel your false religion is the only one--all religions are corrupted now--but Roman Catholicism is the big Kahuna that rides the coming Beast of Revelation.
You wouldn't recognize the return of Jesus Christ if he hit you in the face.
Was that guy panhandling at the last intersection Jesus?
Maybe, maybe not, but maybe he is the least of blah, blah, blah.
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Getting Jim--1st sign of a painful truth!

Do you read the Bible Jim? Probably not.

Do you understand the Prophecies written in the Bible? No

Do you think you are "Saved" by the Roman Catholic Church because you were sprinkled with Holy Water as a baby? Probably yes

Do you take and eat the Wafer God of Roman Catholicism? Probably yes if you are a good Catholic

Do you pray to Mary and the Dead Saints(weird) Probably yes if you are a good Catholic

Do you pray with Rosary Beads? Who knows

I can go on and on about the false religion of Roman Catholicism and it's Works System for Salvation. It's belief of "Purgatory" where family's must pay their loved ones out of a fairytale place is another big scam. Roman Catholicism/Islam is the Worlds biggest Hoax that has killed more humans, started more wars and sent more humans too Hell than any ideology on Planet Earth and will be exposed and destroyed in the very near future when Jesus Christ returns to Rule with a Rod of Iron. The Mother of Harlots in Revelation 18:4 is the Roman Catholic Church and a voice from Heaven warns "Come out of her my people" You need to flee that evil religious system Jim.
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You wouldn't recognize the return of Jesus Christ if he hit you in the face.
Was that guy panhandling at the last intersection Jesus?
Maybe, maybe not, but maybe he is the least of blah, blah, blah.
I know you--you are an idiot that knows nothing of what is being discussed here and I have kicked your ass to the curb before. Still sore coming back for more you fool! Godless fools like you should be seen but not heard. If you would like some more crow to eat--go ahead--Make My Day--You Idiot!
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you are on the road you are meant to travel, journey well.
Lincoln freed the slaves but the Vatican was the only foreign entity to recognize Jefferson Davis as "The Illustrious President of the Southern States

Roman Catholic Church Sheltered Nazi War Criminals

Roman Catholic Church Facilitates Foreign Invasion of Illegal Border Crossers into America

Your religion Jim---your Religion-Roman Catholicism and your Pedophilic Pope Francis is behind the invasion of the country America you say you love.

And for the biggie--The Roman Catholic Church invented Islam to conquer Jerusalem--that is a stone cold fact!
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I know you--you are an idiot that knows nothing of what is being discussed here and I have kicked your ass to the curb before. Still sore coming back for more you fool! Godless fools like you should be seen but not heard. If you would like some more crow to eat--go ahead--Make My Day--You Idiot!
Your blathering is mildly amusing some days, but mostly moronic and tedious.
Stick your head back up your own ass and find some more of those 'facts' you throw around in your posts.
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Your blathering is mildly amusing some days, but mostly moronic and tedious.
Stick your head back up your own ass and find some more of those 'facts' you throw around in your posts.
God bless you and have a great day.
Good--you came back for more You have no knowledge in the matter at hand and you are dealing with someone that has over 50 years of experience in careful study of Scripture and Prophecy. Millions of Christians agree with me and support what I have written. You are like an 18 year old cowpoke that gets bitch slapped by an experienced gunfighter in a saloon and makes the foolish mistake by thinking he can take him on in a showdown. You cannot debate me on this matter, so you hurl shit like a monkey in a zoo. Think twice before you interject yourself in debates like this unless you know what you are doing!
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There's probably no possibility of getting back on topic but it's no big deal putting an organization or people on a terrorist list.

This is the first time a government agency has been put on the list but everyone knew it was coming sooner or later.

This is a bold move by Trump and can have a lot of implications. It could be a move against Putin causing him to spend more on Iran. Putin is already stretched thin with Cuba, Venezuela and Syria. And probably a few other places.

I could have been a request by Israel as well. I could be a combinations of a number of things
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There's probably no possibility of getting back on topic but it's no big deal putting an organization or people on a terrorist list.

This is the first time a government agency has been put on the list but everyone knew it was coming sooner or later.

This is a bold move by Trump and can have a lot of implications. It could be a move against Putin causing him to spend more on Iran. Putin is already stretched thin with Cuba, Venezuela and Syria. And probably a few other places.

I could have been a request by Israel as well. I could be a combinations of a number of things
I think what most have forgotten here is the balance of power and the power structure was changed in the middle east when Trump had his meeting there with most of the countries of the middle east. Trump changed the world over there and it looks like the fighting will stay between middle east countries but with equipment from outside countries.
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You guys should have figured it out already, but US wars are there for equipment testing and war games rehearsal.

Maybe it's necessary because you don't want to go into a REAL war with equipment that does not work, or soldiers with bad training and prone to bad decision making, or generals with no idea about battlefield strategy.
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You guys should have figured it out already, but US wars are there for equipment testing and war games rehearsal.

Maybe it's necessary because you don't want to go into a REAL war with equipment that does not work, or soldiers with bad training and prone to bad decision making, or generals with no idea about battlefield strategy.
Not really, the equipment that the ME kids receive is 2nd tier.
And anything very sophisticated they can't operate or keep operating.

^The Fat Saudis are a perfect example. They buy all the cool, expensive toys, we have to constantly assist them in use and maintenance .... yet they can't beat pathetically poor skinnys with AK and RPGs.

Of course our MIC makes billions whether their customers win anything or not.
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Not really, the equipment that the ME kids receive is 2nd tier.
And anything very sophisticated they can't operate or keep operating.

^The Fat Saudis are a perfect example. They buy all the cool, expensive toys, we have to constantly assist them in use and maintenance .... yet they can't beat pathetically poor skinnys with AK and RPGs.

Of course our MIC makes billions whether their customers win anything or not.
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This so they can pay enough taxes to build and maintain your roads, the ones you use every day. And subsidize the transmission and generation facilities so as to ensure that folks like yourself who like to delude themselves about being minimalists and living off the grid can still have things like reliable electric power, telephone service and internet.

Yep, there's that too.
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This so they can pay enough taxes to build and maintain your roads, the ones you use every day. And subsidize the transmission and generation facilities so as to ensure that folks like yourself who like to delude themselves about being minimalists and living off the grid can still have things like reliable electric power, telephone service and internet.

Yep, there's that too.

Yeah, killing people to pave roads.
How about selling baby parts or pimping kids to pay for traffic lights?

Count me out, Bubbs.

Funny how lots of other places have paved roads, electric power etc w/o killing people in foreign lands.




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Yeah, killing people to pave roads.
How about selling baby parts or pimping kids to pay for traffic lights?

Count me out, Bubbs.

Funny how lots of other places have paved roads, electric power etc w/o killing people in foreign lands.




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Haha well there ya have it. Seems we're doubling down on that 'shoot the messenger' thing again. What's the matter, some truths a bit too awkward for ya? Wasn't no electric power or paved roads in rural areas of the US until uncle sugar stepped in, and your power would be out by sundown if it weren't for USOC line items being added to support rural services in the tax codes and utility cost-outs. There simply isn't a business case in running all that stuff at true cost to guys like you.

As to folks in foreign lands having paved roads to nowhere, well consider that those are likewise funded by central banksters. Hate to be the one to clue ya in but having the folks who build stuff pay for it to be broken is one of the older scams on the planet. And yes, it is a global practice.
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Haha well there ya have it. Seems we're doubling down on that 'shoot the messenger' thing again. What's the matter, some truths a bit too awkward for ya? Wasn't no electric power or paved roads in rural areas of the US until uncle sugar stepped in, and your power would be out by sundown if it weren't for USOC line items being added to support rural services in the tax codes and utility cost-outs. There simply isn't a business case in running all that stuff at true cost to guys like you.
What truth?

We don't need to be the worlds arms merchant to have electricity or paved roads.




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Lincoln freed the slaves but the Vatican was the only foreign entity to recognize Jefferson Davis as "The Illustrious President of the Southern States

Roman Catholic Church Sheltered Nazi War Criminals

Roman Catholic Church Facilitates Foreign Invasion of Illegal Border Crossers into America

Your religion Jim---your Religion-Roman Catholicism and your Pedophilic Pope Francis is behind the invasion of the country America you say you love.

And for the biggie--The Roman Catholic Church invented Islam to conquer Jerusalem--that is a stone cold fact!
So you are probably happy the Notre Dame Cathedral burnt down then? Was it folks like you that did the burning? Dude curse you and the horse you rode in on.
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We don't need to be the worlds arms merchant to have electricity or paved roads.




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Truth? I'll spell it out for ya.

The ARMS MERCHANTS of the world enable, among other things, roads to be built and power to be delivered, particularly into places where it is not profitable to do so without government-induced market distortions. It follows that there must be an ARMS TRADE to make this possible, and trade requires MERCHANTS, FINANCIERS and CUSTOMERS. It has been this way since the central banks figured out that better employment numbers could be had by funding those who build stuff and those who break stuff at the same time. Not to mention better cash flow. And it's an outstanding way to turn the governments of the world into vassal states of the central bankers as well. Any ninth grade graduate back in the 1800s could see this plainly, it took a university president to be surprised when the promises made in 1913 took a wholly predictable direction.

At the moment the US turns out to be the prime merchant because our weapons are, generally speaking, the best but beyond that they are the most expensive, which means trading in them churns more cash. Your pals in Switzerland, among others are generally involved in financing this operation although truth be told it's as misleading to identify them as Swiss as it is to identify the vendors as Americans. As Jefferson famously stated, a merchant has no country. And these guys don't have one regardless as to whether they've set up camp in Switzerland, the United States, Czechoslovakia, Lichenstein, the Bahamas or off the back of their yachts somewhere in the south pacific.

Take good notes. This is an important point and it's kinda shocking that you don't get this after all these years.

Reeling it back in, without the international arms trade the global economy reverts to a fraction of what it is today. And without an economy to keep things moving to a point to where some folks don't really mind parting with a few bucks here and there to keep folks like you powered up and mobile you're back to shouldering the real cost of stuff you use every day.
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So you are probably happy the Notre Dame Cathedral burnt down then? Was it folks like you that did the burning? Dude curse you and the horse you rode in on.
That's not nice Jimmy. You've gone off the deep end I would never curse or put a pox on you. I like you. I am on the outside looking in on your religion and can see the folly that you can't. You were probably born into it as were your parents. A hard bond to break--you are sounding like a Jihadi Muslim--then again it was your religion that started the curse of Islam so it could own Jerusalem as it's very own! My advice to you Jim is come out of her---that's what your Bible says.
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That's not nice Jimmy. You've gone off the deep end I would never curse or put a pox on you. I like you. I am on the outside looking in on your religion and can see the folly that you can't. You were probably born into it as were your parents. A hard bond to break--you are sounding like a Jihadi Muslim--then again it was your religion that started the curse of Islam so it could own Jerusalem as it's very own! My advice to you Jim is come out of her---that's what your Bible says.
Curse you dude for the lies you spread, may God give you what you deserve for your evil, vile hatred you spread. It's guys like you that get our churches burnt down with your evil talk. That's all I will ever say to you.
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Iran has been a state sponsor or terrorism for quite some time. Trump simply made it official. Why did he do that?

It should be about time for Iran to have their nuke program about ready. Israel wants to hit them to prevent a first strike.
Anybody here know much about International law or U.N. protocol?

Maybe when Iran gets hit, the US doesn't have to get involved. Maybe the US can prevent the UN from taking action against Israel when Iran is on 'The List'.
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