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Old February 18, 2018, 08:04   #1
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great Indian news Shawnees get some casino land

my bros finally get some land for a casino in Guymon. congrats & happy gaming. the Cherokees made about $650,000,00 last year so the pickins aint too bad.

thanks to Secretary Zinke for seeing the light. the Shawnee were yankee sympathizers but its time to move on, but they got dicked anyways by their yankee buddies (an old story, them white boys are some slippery devils, just ask Finnicum) so make sure you game generously at all cherokee casinos & throw some love to the new Shawnee enterprise in Guymon.

https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/se...aming-facility

on a side note, the Shawnees inflicted the worst defeat ever suffered by the us army at the hands of american Indians����
“Until the Secretary’s approval of its land-into-trust for gaming application, the Shawnee Tribe had been landless since the mid-19th century, when the 1854 Treaty of Washington terminated the Tribe’s 1.6 million-acre reservation in Kansas, which had been created under earlier treaties, allotted approximately 200,000 acres to individual Indians, and opened the majority of the remaining lands to non-Indian settlement. In 1869, the United States relocated the Shawnee tribal members in Kansas, known as the Loyal Shawnee because of their service to the Union during the Civil War, to present-day Oklahoma, but did not provide the tribe with its own land base.”
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Old February 18, 2018, 08:05   #2
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Old February 18, 2018, 08:15   #3
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I don't go to casinos but hear they don't have coin slot machines any more. If you win, it gives you a ticket and plays the sound of coins falling.

Maybe that's better; you don't need to handle all that change.
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Old February 18, 2018, 08:28   #5
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my bros finally get some land for a casino

Ah, the sacred ceremonial gambling resort will go up ASAP. Soon there'll be lots of money for nothing, which will certainly improve the lot of the population for generations to come.
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Old February 18, 2018, 08:38   #6
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“Thirty Oklahoma Indian tribes conducted casino-style gaming in the state last fiscal year, but nearly two-thirds of the record-breaking $132 million in exclusivity fees paid to the state came from just three tribes.

Leading the way were the Chickasaw Nation, which paid the state nearly $46.9 million in fees, the Choctaw Nation, which paid about $22.4 million, and the Cherokee Nation, which paid nearly $15.3 million”

the white mans gots to have his baksheesh. them Chickasaw seem to be a little too generous but wtf.
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Ah, the sacred ceremonial gambling resort will go up ASAP. Soon there'll be lots of money for nothing, which will certainly improve the lot of the population for generations to come.
I caught it...
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Explain to me how gambling and casinos are in any way tied to native American culture.
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Oh good, even MORE money on top of the monthly welfare check and Indian Money that they get to do absolutely NOTHING.

I should open a store just off the rez. I'd sell liquor, spray paint, mouthwash, and airplane glue. Maybe have an adjoining fast food restaurant.

I'd be a multimillionaire within a couple years.
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my bros from Chicago and Brooklyn finally get some land for a casino in Guymon. .....

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Old February 18, 2018, 12:09   #12
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I don't go to casinos but hear they don't have coin slot machines any more. If you win, it gives you a ticket and plays the sound of coins falling.

Maybe that's better; you don't need to handle all that change.
Foxwoods Resort Casino stopped using coin machines years ago. It cost too much to count the coins, move them around, and transport them to banks. They had special carts and little tugs to move the coins around through back of house and the counting rooms, armored trucks to transport them.
Today you get a "rewards" card and plug it into the machine that you're playing. The machines are just almost empty boxes with two TV monitors, small sound system, some switches, buttons, and a circuit board. All wired with fiber-optic cable to a server room.
Not a gambler, just worked there for a while.
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Leading the way were the Chickasaw Nation, which paid the state nearly $46.9 million in fees, the Choctaw Nation, which paid about $22.4 million, and the Cherokee Nation, which paid nearly $15.3 million”
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A year? Big effing deal. Mohegan Sun gives CT around $40M a month. Foxwoods averages a bit more than $30M a month.
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We have several Indian casinos here in Oregon that have made a lot of money for the Indians but I see little that they do with that money except add on more gambling and entertainment. Drive through the reservation and it looks like total poverty.

Kinda reminds me of the greedy white gold miners.
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Old February 18, 2018, 14:26   #15
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We have several Indian casinos here in Oregon that have made a lot of money for the Indians but I see little that they do with that money except add on more gambling and entertainment. Drive through the reservation and it looks like total poverty.
I've been to ONE rez, the Salish-Kootenai (Flathead rez) north of Missoula, MT, that didn't look like someone fought a war there and both sides lost. Ronan, Polson, and Pablo are fairly clean and well-maintained. Much, MUCH different than Browning (Blackfeet), Hardin (Crow), and Wolf Point (Sioux).

I thought the Navajo might be different than the plains indians, but one look at Gallup is all it took to dispel THAT notion.
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I have no problem with gambling if you can afford it. I wish there were casinos near by. Texas gives probably hundreds of millions away to La every year.

Problem is many can’t afford to gamble. I remember in the ‘90s that the casinos in Ms would cash welfare checks and give out a comp like a free buffet. Boy there were some sad faces sitting around come midnight on check day.
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Gambling is a trap that ensnares the weak minded poor. Always the hope of winning big that never happens. Yeah, I have known guys that win but you never hear much about the losses. Gambling is a suckers game and all the marks are controlled like sheep getting sheared. The phycological engineering that goes into a casino goes from the carpet you walk on to the ceiling. The crazy patterns, colors, the sounds,drinks, food, all of it.
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Once a Indian takes all your money and your clothes he will try to trade you your out of your boots for some poontang,,, that's how they expect to regain title to the complete territory again,,, some of you can expect to be deported when that happens,,, probably with the clap.
You might as well give your money to a redhead chippy for a good time as visit a Indian clip joint.
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Old February 18, 2018, 16:44   #19
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I am suprised the Indians don't buy more adjoining land then annex it to the reservation. Heck they could get their way with congress for more land then raise some buffalo and live like they want. Heck they could go back to teepee living..
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once a tribe gets a casino they should not get another cent from .gov
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As much money as our .gov gives to other countries around the world that hate us.....and as much pain as our forefathers inflicted on the native Americans......I'm not going to balk at them getting help.
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I have no problem with gambling if you can afford it. I wish there were casinos near by. Texas gives probably hundreds of millions away to La every year.
Probably losing more to the Indians.
The Chickasaws have Winstar on I35 just north of the Red River.
The Choctaws in Durant so both are pulling money from DFW area.
This casino in Guymon is meant to bring in money from Amarillo and Lubbock.
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Best casino in Oregon is Spirit Mountain but only for the buffet. When you go into any of oregon casinos first place to look is the payout window. If the machines give out a few winners then the payout line is full and if they need more cash then you won't see many folks in line.
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As much money as our .gov gives to other countries around the world that hate us.....and as much pain as our forefathers inflicted on the native Americans......I'm not going to balk at them getting help.
But don't you see that that is the problem? Cut off the teat and they will relearn how to fend for themselves.
Also, you seem to have bought the whole...It is still their land BS. Many of our forefathers died to win the land.
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I've never begrudged the Native Americans for operating casinos. Most of their lands seem to be in places that don't offer much economic value anyway so if they want to offer an opportunity for people to piss away their money on games of chance, so be it.

Personally, I do not enjoy casinos because gambling is a magnet for smokers and while I don't care if anyone smokes, I also do not enjoy being inundated by second hand smoke for hours on end.

Alas, SWMBO loves to play the slots so I endure my quarterly visit to these smokers' havens with a quiet resolve and lots of cheap booze. Did you know that the video poker bar will serve you as long as you have money in the machine there, regardless of whether or not you're really playing?
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Old February 18, 2018, 23:07   #27
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2 of my friends and I go to Spirit Mountain about once a month, take turns on driving and buying and have a pretty fair lunch. It's a nice drive through the country and see elk and deer at times. Big buffet and lots of seating with it full most every time you go. They know how to do buffet. Haven't ever gambled there in a real sense, never heard of any big winners there.
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Casinos are mostly native American deals today.

They are mostly smoke filled places where you lose you hair.
We have plenty around here.....

The games, gas pumps and cigs are not regulated by the State or Feds.

I have to say for the record, that over the last 25 years, the list of my friends/acquaintences who end up dead by age 70, are the gamblers.

Mostly smoke related cancers and heart attacks. They all liked going after 11 pm and would gamble/smoke all night.
Many have just stopped in their tracks............BOOM; dead, or end stage cancer.

The restaurants have gotten expensive nowadays, but do have chefs.

I have always believed that trying to take the others guys cash is stealing. I have no desire for the "house's money." but that is just me.
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Most folks I know that gamble do it for entertainment, casinos entertain people. People with addictive personalities tend to lose their hair but then they would anyway somewhere else. Other than food I am not a fan but the Indians want their casinos so why stand in the way.
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I am surprised the Indians don't buy more adjoining land then annex it to the reservation.
They can buy as much abutting property as they want. Make it part of the Rez and off the town's tax rolls? Nope, not unless it's within the original boundaries of the reservation when it was formed. Mashantuckets tried that stuff here, it didn't work out for them.
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As much money as our .gov gives to other countries around the world that hate us.....and as much pain as our forefathers inflicted on the native Americans......I'm not going to balk at them getting help.
How does what my forefathers did make me responsible for funding someone else? My ancestors - some Indian, some white. Grandma Still walked the Trail of Tears....some of my other ancestors killed Yankees. (rightfully so)

Who should I be responsible for?

What about descendants of savages that scalped, murdered, raped white settlers? Should they be held responsible for that violence against whites?

Indians that had slaves...should they contribute to the Negro College Fund as a penance?

How far should this logic go? Should Canadians pay reparations to Cajuns?

Maybe Comanche pay reparations to the Tonkawa....
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Most of the money on a lot of these tribal casinos doesn't go to the tribe. It goes to Harrah's or whoever else runs the casino and greased the politicians (who also get their cut) to build it in the first place. Most of the official members of the tribe get a small check at best.

Take a good look at that once proud warrior race. Because you've been targeted for the same fate by the globalists:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...323-story.html
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Good for them. Most tribes got stuck with shit land no one else wanted. And even if the tribe happened to wind up with some extractive industry BIA has a way of fukking up their revenue stream so bad no one can tell where the money went.

I was in Phoenix area when the McDowell tribe told Janet Napolitano to pound sand when Janet sent in the feds to seize their "illegal" gambling machines they had installed on their so called "sovereign" land without approval of the state of Arizona's blessing. They blockaded the Mayflower moving van that was trying to leave with their machines. Using Mayflower was like rubbing salt in the wound.

The governor Symington called it off by approving gambling on "sovereign" indian lands in Arizona.

Good for the McDowell tribe.

Some of what I see is better housing though with the BIA involved it looks like a bunch of military housing, and the tribes learning how to work with the white man for their own goals. Good for them.
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Gambling is a trap that ensnares the weak minded poor. Always the hope of winning big that never happens. Yeah, I have known guys that win but you never hear much about the losses. Gambling is a suckers game and all the marks are controlled like sheep getting sheared. The phycological engineering that goes into a casino goes from the carpet you walk on to the ceiling. The crazy patterns, colors, the sounds,drinks, food, all of it.
You got that right. Had some interesting conversations with the VP of slots at Foxwoods. The bright flashing primary colored lights, the stupid jingly sounds have been specifically chosen. A large group of humans become physically excited when exposed to this stuff. Heart rate goes up, respiration rate increases without most even realizing that they are being stimulated by an outside source. Creepy shit...
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You got that right. Had some interesting conversations with the VP of slots at Foxwoods. The bright flashing primary colored lights, the stupid jingly sounds have been specifically chosen. A large group of humans become physically excited when exposed to this stuff. Heart rate goes up, respiration rate increases without most even realizing that they are being stimulated by an outside source. Creepy shit...
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That engineering is applied widely
Consider grocery stores and where certain products are displayed particularly near the check outs.

Schools and even Jails/Prisons have color schemes based on studies. The old institutional green and light pinks were there for a purpose.

same with lighting

all this crap is carefully chosen based on university studies by academics

The flip side is while it is effective on the majority there is a sizable minority it has a quite opposite effect on
I can't stand Casinos, they are far too busy with flashing lights and artifical noise. Don't care for carnivals either due to similar sensorial overload.
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