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Old February 17, 2018, 20:41   #1
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Old February 17, 2018, 21:14   #2
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Thanks for the link to the cool pics!
It's kinda like seeing a pic of the piles of rifles from the U.K. that were burned.
BTW, thats an interesting "handle" you have there!
I'm originally from Beaumont. It's been over 50 years now but I remember some of the signs on the bridges. It was always an interesting trip when we headed East out of Beaumont!
Take care and thanks again for the link!
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Old February 17, 2018, 21:52   #3
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I'm in for 20.
I don't think customs will be to accommodating.
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Old February 17, 2018, 21:58   #4
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Well,

There are better in Germany. There are pallets of NOS FN made Izzy marked type 1 and 2 receivers in Bavaria. They also had some beat up G-1 receivers. They were all about 80 Euros a piece.

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Old February 18, 2018, 15:06   #5
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I like your handle too, being an RCA myself.

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Old February 18, 2018, 16:59   #6
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There was a guy on the Facebook forum selling these a few weeks ago. They were South Africa Pretoria made uppers with a single saw cut behind the ejector block listed for $300 shipped from the states somewhere. He stated after the saw cut they were legally scrap metal and could be re-welded legally the same way an ak re-welds were done. I was not sure about that...

I thought I saved a pic he had some poopy uppers pictured but i saved the url and he pulled the pics since I did not download them Ive got nothing.

Could these be made legal again?
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Old February 18, 2018, 17:04   #7
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I'm curious about the whole rewelding myself. They do it somehow with the Bren receivers. What would make those legal, but not the FAL?
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Old February 18, 2018, 18:50   #8
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A single saw cut is not a legal method of demilitarizing a FAL receiver for import into the US. The ATF requires 3 cuts with a torch, one cut through the breach, one through the locking shoulder/pivot pin area and a final cut at the rear. Years ago there was a short period of time where saw cuts were how it was done. The guy on Facebook is playing a gray area game claiming that because the receivers were cut outside of the US that they are no longer receivers and could be imported. Who wants to play that game with him? Probably an ATF sting for all we know, I haven’t really seen him post anything else over there.

Yes you can reweld a properly demilled receiver.
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Old February 18, 2018, 21:07   #9
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Damn, just Damn... I didn't know FAL receivers were so available world wide. Could a person buy a quantity and store them overseas in the hopes that one day the law may change? Maybe send them to the BVIs and take a trip to the USVIs with your "custom serialized" to match ORF lowers? I know we're talking prison time, but Damn...LOL
If only they would allow us to remove the "auto" feature and import them.
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Old February 18, 2018, 21:33   #10
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Damn, just Damn... I didn't know FAL receivers were so available world wide. Could a person buy a quantity and store them overseas in the hopes that one day the law may change? Maybe send them to the BVIs and take a trip to the USVIs with your "custom serialized" to match ORF lowers? I know we're talking prison time, but Damn...LOL
If only they would allow us to remove the "auto" feature and import them.
In order to buy them in Germany you would have to have the appropriate license, fall under all of the gun ownership guidelines and so on.. Betting on them becoming legal in the US is a losing bet.
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Old February 19, 2018, 00:50   #11
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Well,

In Germany you can buy all the receivers you want with zero legal issues. Barrels and bolts are the controlled items in Germany. The same place that has all the NOS FN Izzy marked receivers also has pallets of Excellent condition M-14 receivers. They offered to sell me one of every manufacturer but said they would have to charge me 20 Euro more for the Winchester receivers as they are high demand. I thanked them and turned them down knowing I could never get em home.

What peeked my interest were the NOS G-3 Steyr receivers, those live in my dreams.

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Old February 19, 2018, 09:03   #12
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ill take 100 of them and 100 of the m16 colt receivers at the bottom of the page...lol
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Old February 19, 2018, 09:15   #13
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Don't hold your breath. I couldn't even get them to ship me a bayonet for a G3.

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Importing single ban saw cut receivers from Canada was perfectly legal in the 1980's. Some cuts were just behind the cocking handle rails on the G series.
I have also had some cut through the pivot pin area on L1A1's.
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Old February 19, 2018, 10:02   #15
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BATFE Reg's

Current BATFE regs require that a receiver has to be cut into three pieces. First cut is through the magazine area, Second cut is through the back side of the magazine area the the third cut is behind the mag and bolt release.

Their was a machine shop in Davie Florida that had to have a FFL/FFL-07 license to cut up over 2000 G-1 receivers to make starter parts for M.A.N Diesel's and every week BATFE was their to make sure that all the receivers were destroyed to spec.

Current Law requires that you have an FFL/07 license and a Importers licence and a export license from the country of origin,PLUS the original origin of manufacture which isn't hard to tell if the purchaser knows what they are after.
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I see some ZA marked Imbels. Some of the others still have Rhodesia paint. Don't see any saw cuts.
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Old February 19, 2018, 17:44   #17
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Looks to be alot of RA and ZA Marked. Ground off/sanitized SA marks as well. Bits of original Rhodesian paint. So silly we can't have these in the USA.
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Looks to be alot of RA and ZA Marked. Ground off/sanitized SA marks as well. Bits of original Rhodesian paint. So silly we can't have these in the USA.
I'd love to see Hughes go away, plus the GCA's ban on importing NFA-regulated weapons, and the elimination of the "sporting purposes" language (which is one reason why I had been looking forward to the SHARE Act before Vegas, as it would do that last part; at least the barrels would stop getting chopped up).

Ideally, I'd like to see the whole Federal gun controul regimen disappear, but it would be a good start. While we're at it, replace the NFA background check with NICS and give the SOTs the tax stamps so that they can be paid for and issued at the counter, while also making it so that if you get caught with a weapon without the stamp, you basically have to pay the tax within a certain timeframe and a new NICS check and you get your weapon back and no criminal charges are filed, absent any evidence that you purposefully engaged in tax evasion.
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Old February 19, 2018, 19:30   #19
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They even have ZA-24068 a ZIM-BEL, highest number ZA I've yet seen.

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IMBEL FABRICA DE ITAJUBA BRASIL

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Old February 20, 2018, 02:17   #20
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Move to Belgium...

Some parts are indeed legal here and cost nothing.
Some parts are serious expensive compared to the USA.

The gras is always greener on the other side...

Germany has to change there gunlaws very soon in order to comply with the European law. Those receivers will be demilled very soon.

They are saving the trouble and hope to sell it asap.

There empty guns (no barrel, no bolt) will be demilled/welded also.

Give it a few months

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I see some ZA marked Imbels. Some of the others still have Rhodesia paint. Don't see any saw cuts.
I saw that one too. Very cool.
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A single saw cut is not a legal method of demilitarizing a FAL receiver for import into the US. The ATF requires 3 cuts with a torch, one cut through the breach, one through the locking shoulder/pivot pin area and a final cut at the rear. Years ago there was a short period of time where saw cuts were how it was done. The guy on Facebook is playing a gray area game claiming that because the receivers were cut outside of the US that they are no longer receivers and could be imported. Who wants to play that game with him? Probably an ATF sting for all we know, I haven’t really seen him post anything else over there.

Yes you can reweld a properly demilled receiver.

The ATF took one of the saw cut receivers and used wire ties to hold it together and was able to fire three rounds with one pull of the trigger before it came apart. That is when the came up with the torch cuts.
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Old February 21, 2018, 07:51   #23
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IMBEL sear cut receiver s.n. 258105 with ZA-24068.
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Old February 21, 2018, 08:06   #24
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The R1 receiver

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Belgian Type 1 showing traces of removed marking

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Old February 24, 2018, 11:19   #25
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It just dawned on me! Even at $25 a pop for each of the locking shoulders there is a fair chunk of change in those receivers!
Nice pics!
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