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Old January 23, 2018, 05:46   #1
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PTR announces new MP5

PTR just announced they are going to offer a MP5, priced at $1800.
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Old January 23, 2018, 09:30   #2
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https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2018...mm-mp5-clones/
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Old January 23, 2018, 11:21   #3
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At that price the Swiss will be getting my money instead.

Why is it they can sell an HK91 clone for under a grand, but they charge almost twice that for an MP5 clone?
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Old January 23, 2018, 11:46   #4
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MSRP $1899...... :-l Swing and a miss.......Their competitors are already under them.
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Old January 23, 2018, 12:03   #5
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i want them to start US production of their STG/MP44 clone. MP5 clone without the fun switch is no fun at all.
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Old January 23, 2018, 12:12   #6
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Old January 23, 2018, 12:49   #7
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i want them to start US production of their STG/MP44 clone. MP5 clone without the fun switch is no fun at all.
At that price and no 10mm, I agree: Gimme the StG clone.
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Old January 23, 2018, 15:17   #8
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Esp seeing as PSA is making a MP5 clone

Reallying imop they should have done a HK33/93 clone ..Lot less people making them ..And imop decent market for them ..Esp if they offered I dont know a AR-15 mag well option ( yeah it know the price of mags can be a turn off to some )

1.8k for this nope

Omega and others are buldings ones nice or nicer then this for less money and offer K models etc


I do like the non 922r issues and full auto bolt for it

But I am not paying close to 2k for a PTR gun ...I will give Omega etc the money first
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Old January 23, 2018, 17:51   #9
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i want them to start US production of their STG/MP44 clone. MP5 clone without the fun switch is no fun at all.
Thank you for saying that. No happy button, no happy. Now an STG in a readily available caliber would be the shit.
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Old January 23, 2018, 21:29   #10
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PTR, PSA, POF, MKE --- I will stay with HK!!!

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Old January 23, 2018, 21:53   #11
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$1800 for a 9mm?
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Old January 23, 2018, 22:45   #12
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Companies have other models higher than that, but they are not clones of some other model.
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Old February 03, 2018, 20:58   #13
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Way over priced, PSA will own the market come 2019 if they come in under 1000 like everyone is saying. Shame because as another posted said here, if they can turn out reliable top quality g3 clones for under 1000, the mp5 shouldn't be that much more. Guess they have to pay for the R&D but that carry case, aluminum hand guard, bungie sling and welded top rail (only 2-3 inches long) all could have been omitted to bring the price down a couple hundred at least.
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Old February 04, 2018, 19:07   #14
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At that price the Swiss will be getting my money instead.

Why is it they can sell an HK91 clone for under a grand, but they charge almost twice that for an MP5 clone?
Especially when the mp5 is really nothing but a scaled down hk91.
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Old February 05, 2018, 11:35   #15
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For the people comparing PTR and PSA price points remember you get what you pay for.

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Old February 05, 2018, 11:37   #16
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Especially when the mp5 is really nothing but a scaled down hk91.
Don't forget the company got started by buying the Portugal HK factory on the surplus market, so they got all the molds, & machinery cheap. To make the MP5, they need to start over, making new molds for everything, R&D, etc. GARY
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Don't forget the company got started by buying the Portugal HK factory on the surplus market, so they got all the molds, & machinery cheap. To make the MP5, they need to start over, making new molds for everything, R&D, etc. GARY
Yeah, but how much R&D is required on something that well-known that has been around for that long?
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Yeah, but how much R&D is required on something that well-known that has been around for that long?
Ask all the FAL manufacturers that canít make an in spec receiver.
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Old February 06, 2018, 15:24   #19
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Yeah, but how much R&D is required on something that well-known that has been around for that long?
MUCH more than you would think.

Owner of X-products told me he had $500k into the 308 50rd drum mag by the time he got it to work. Thereís a ton of subtile details that are not apparent.
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I'll admit they are sexy and I enjoy shooting the HK94 clone I have. But there are more options for a 9mm carbine/ pistol with brace options these days for less and much cheaper to fix/get parts for.

The HK SP5K with an MSRP of $2,699 is like a bad joke where HK gets to take a dump on the civilian market it scorned for years. $1800 still too high for clones. $1299, they will move fairly briskly.

I'm wondering if the PSA model will have a run off on "Blemished" receivers for their HK clone.
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Old February 08, 2018, 13:01   #21
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I like my SP5K

HK made a great subgun with the MP5K. I got a NIB SP5K in a trade for a Colt 45 I never shot. This roller locked action is really cool engineering. It runs like a top and I like it nearly as much as my Mini Uzi. I like all the clones that are out there as competition breeds improvement and generally lowers prices across the board. Never been an HK fanboy, read lots of negative chit about the company but the SP5K is good stuff (price not so much) and my HK 45Comp Tac is revolver reliable.
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Old February 08, 2018, 21:02   #22
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$1800 worth of....

Desperately trying to finish that thought.
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