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Old November 09, 2018, 16:46   #1
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The data shown here is very interesting. And it just isn't the young men either.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-labor-market
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Old November 09, 2018, 16:51   #2
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Weary of long days earning minimum wage, he quit his job in a pizzeria in June. He wants new employment but won’t take a gig he’ll hate. So for now, the Pittsburgh native and father to young children is living with his mother and training to become an emergency medical technician, hoping to get on the ladder toward a better life.
There's yer problem right there...

LAZY. LAZY LAZY LAZY.

It's not a 'gig', it's an effing 'job'. It sucks, you work hard, you build for a better life in the off-hours.

Once I realized i had to do something with my life, I worked pretty much full time all day then went to college at night and on weekends. I had jobs I 'hated'. Yes I was 'weary' getting up early, working all day, pit stop at home to eat then race to college night school. Rinse and repeat for many years. Has no one told these whiny punks that life is HARD ?

Also, all the illegals and legal visa immigrants taking up jobs and driving down wages.
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Old November 09, 2018, 17:29   #3
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by the time i was 26 i had 3 children, a wife, a house, 2 cars, and a boat. i got there by working my ass off at some nasty jobs that paid well. i never saw employment as a "gig", or imagined enjoying what i got paid to do.
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Old November 09, 2018, 17:36   #4
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Between tv, hollywood, internet, video games, schools, and key out of all of this...lazy enabling parents, we get guys like this.

Most people aren't born with a strong work ethic, it has to be taught and learned.

I learned by example from my Dad who worked hard every week of his life from teenage years til he retired. Never talked about it much, never complained much, just nose to the grindstone working hard to support the family. I won't ever be as great but I've done my best to emulate.
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Old November 09, 2018, 17:37   #5
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No wonder the marriage rate has dropped. Most younger men today are losers. And have you seen the gay Northface and such clothes they wear? Won’t work can’t fix anything and are afraid of guns. LOSERS
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Old November 09, 2018, 17:50   #6
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Has no one told these whiny punks that life is HARD ?
Actually, no. The culture around young people is to coddle them while filling them with the idea that they should chase their dreams. Virtually no exposure to being realistic about career choice, investment vs return of a college education, what adulting is really like, etc. Been through the end of high school experience with several kids over more than a decade, it is just getting worse. I am just not surprised to hear stories about coffee slingers whining about 100k in student loans they cant pay back, it is what the system encourages right now. Too many youth seeking to be the next millionaire app designer or celebrity phenom or rock star and NO ONE is sitting them down to explain the pitifully low success rate of those options and instill more realistic life goals.

I wont paint the whole millennial generation as a bunch of putzes. There are some amazingly capable young people from that age group. But my experience is the millennials have a higher than typical percentage of useless emptyheads.
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Old November 09, 2018, 18:48   #7
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I'm 80 and i don't want a gig, but i worked from 15 till i was 78, life is hard and then you die.
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Old November 09, 2018, 19:24   #8
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I'm 80 and i don't want a gig, but i worked from 15 till i was 78, life is hard and then you die.
I figured you for low 50s. Life may be hard but your stories make it seem like you had fun!
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Old November 09, 2018, 19:41   #9
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They are lazy. Lazy. Lazy. I can't find anyone below 30 with any kind of work ethic or drive. Part of the reason I am selling my business. What disturbs me is the losers that get a ten dollar an hour job, have a ten dollar an hour attitude and refuse to do better because they are sucking off Uncle Sugar and don't want to lose entitlements. One day they will find, life is hard. It will hit them like a ton of bricks when Uncle Sugar turns off the tap. Meanwhile, in the real world at least in my region there is a real shortage of skilled labor. I'm selling my place, getting another job and they are giving me a brand new company truck, signing bonus & money over the rate. The younger people seem to get an 8 year degree in gay dance study, are saddled with enough debt to buy a home and wonder why $10 is what they earn.

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Old November 09, 2018, 19:57   #10
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Actually, no. The culture around young people is to coddle them while filling them with the idea that they should chase their dreams. Virtually no exposure to being realistic about career choice, investment vs return of a college education, what adulting is really like, etc. Been through the end of high school experience with several kids over more than a decade, it is just getting worse. I am just not surprised to hear stories about coffee slingers whining about 100k in student loans they cant pay back, it is what the system encourages right now. Too many youth seeking to be the next millionaire app designer or celebrity phenom or rock star and NO ONE is sitting them down to explain the pitifully low success rate of those options and instill more realistic life goals.

I wont paint the whole millennial generation as a bunch of putzes. There are some amazingly capable young people from that age group. But my experience is the millennials have a higher than typical percentage of useless emptyheads.
My exact experience as well.
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Old November 09, 2018, 22:58   #11
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These persons are not smart enough anymore............simple.

If you have a knack for something, you find out early, otherwise it is WalMart for you.

If you have an ambition to be a fireman or pilot or lawyer or engineer or bulldozer operator, or electrician or Military guy..........you do it.

Deadheads who smoked pot at age 14 and killed off their attention span and brain cells, are paying the price as the filth who have no brain left to be competent at anything, even a warehouseman.
Who the hell smoked all those billions of dollars worth of illegal pot anyway? Hint hint................

They believed the lie that the pop culture put forth............play video games, listen to music, drink, smoke pot, and things will be ok.
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Old November 09, 2018, 23:13   #12
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Having a good work ethic is becoming more uncommon. Someone I know is a very smart guy, but a slacker. It took him to 40 years of age to get a 4 year degree. Never had a career. He can't find a job in the oil patch because well....when they look at his resume they see a 40 year old that spent 20 years getting a 4 year degree. NO MOTIVATION! Not what Exxon/Mobil is looking for. So he's back working for cheap.
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Old November 10, 2018, 09:09   #13
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Weary of long days earning minimum wage, he quit his job in a pizzeria in June. He wants new employment but won’t take a gig he’ll hate. So for now, the Pittsburgh native and father to young children is living with his mother and training to become an emergency medical technician, hoping to get on the ladder toward a better life.
If this moron is expecting short days with good pay he sure picked the wrong road to travel down!!!

Long days (12 hr minimum, up to 48 hours), no scheduled breaks or lunches, low pay (I made minimum wage for years), all weather conditions, dangerous working conditions. People assaulting you for showing up when they called you. Most burn out in a year or two. I could go on for hours. I would love to see a follow up to this story, assuming this puke makes it through Basic class....Not a job for snowflakes.
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Old November 10, 2018, 12:12   #15
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When I retired I was happy to not be wanted or needed and now I live life doing what I can.
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Christ,I'm 54 and still climbing ladders,and washing restaurant exhaust systems,getting fricking sodium hydroxide in my eyes and having that shit work its way into my clothes.Still sporting chemical burns from the last two jobs. And that's in addition to all the other shit that I do. I will do literally ANYTHING to feed my family. These fuggers need to starve.
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Christ,I'm 54 and still climbing ladders,and washing restaurant exhaust systems,getting fricking sodium hydroxide in my eyes and having that shit work its way into my clothes.Still sporting chemical burns from the last two jobs. And that's in addition to all the other shit that I do. I will do literally ANYTHING to feed my family. These fuggers need to starve.
That work is teh suk. There at night after the place closes and slip sliding around in the damn kitchen while it’s being cleaned up.

I sell filters for pollution control units.
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Christ,I'm 54 and still climbing ladders,and washing restaurant exhaust systems,getting fricking sodium hydroxide in my eyes and having that shit work its way into my clothes.Still sporting chemical burns from the last two jobs. And that's in addition to all the other shit that I do. I will do literally ANYTHING to feed my family. These fuggers need to starve.
I shoveled asphalt that was 320 degrees until I was 62, crummy work but paid good.
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Christ,I'm 54 and still climbing ladders,and washing restaurant exhaust systems,getting fricking sodium hydroxide in my eyes and having that shit work its way into my clothes.Still sporting chemical burns from the last two jobs. And that's in addition to all the other shit that I do. I will do literally ANYTHING to feed my family. These fuggers need to starve.
That Sir, is why I and many, many others like you!

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Cigs, alcohol, meat, butter, etc, buy it cheap, sell it high, and keep moving, quick!

Not sure where I got my best work education, black-marketing, or in college/grad schools, doctoral program.

One was far more fun than the others though, with far more honest people to work with.

Make a deal, deliver the goods, get paid.
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"father to young children is living with his mother and training to become an emergency medical technician"

Why is he having children he can't afford?
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"father to young children is living with his mother and training to become an emergency medical technician"

Why is he having children he can't afford?
Sounds like the grandparents are raising them, willingly.
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Old November 11, 2018, 01:44   #22
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"father to young children is living with his mother and training to become an emergency medical technician"

Why is he having children he can't afford?
Why not, NY just elected a new congress critter that can't afford an apartment on her own, least not till we begin paying her 175,000 a yr!
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Fuckin pukes. By the time I was 26 I had a loving wife, two kids, a mortgage and food to put on the table. I didn't have time to feel depressed or scared.

I've done some things that were highly illegal (statute of limitations has long ago run out...) in order to feed my family but in my mind, when your children are hungry I will do ANYTHING to make sure they have food....and have.

The difference between guys like me and these pukes are that in my working days.....

.....I WOULD HAVE LITERALLY PUSHED SHITBALLS TO THE CORNER AND BACK WITH MY NOSE FOR MINIMUM WAGE TO HOUSE, CLOTHE, AND FEED MY FAMILY IF THATS WHAT IT TOOK. MY WIFE IS THE SAME.

Whining little shits, I worked "gigs" that sucked ass for DECADES before I finally made enough to put away and retire. Screw them.

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Times are different....

Now, if it were just one or two - but on the current scale, I would say there is another reason - and yet unknown!
As to what is causing all this male uselessness - I would hazard a guess at - population, education and an uncertain entropy in the economic/banking system - very little to do with laziness etc..., young boys/men need a sense of purpose - that is lacking in our society. War will rectify that tho'.....

http://patriotrising.com/why-are-so-...-to-get-ahead/
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I have worked two jobs most of my life. Even when I was in the AF, I had a second job working 20 hours a week at a local boatyard. It helped pay for my home off base and my ski boat. While serving in England I bought cars off the locals and sold them to the GI's who were coming in to the air base. I operated a small motorcycle repair shop for years as a second job. Paid for my bikes and then some. I still occasionally do woodworking projects on large yachts, mostly to keep the rust off my tools and my skills.
I hear it from the contractors I see every day, the young ones don't have a work ethic. They want to come to the job and play on their phones. One contractor I know collects his guys' phones in the morning. They are returned at quitting time. His trucks have radios so they're still able to communicate at work.
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A former co-worker of mine raises 4 children of his useless son and wife. They both can’t hold jobs and want to have everything served on a silver platter.

The son is as dumb as a box of rocks and generally thinks that he is underpaid in every job, is entitled to take more days off than a 10 year employee in accumulated vacations time or sick leave. Significant achievements in his 35 years on this planet: none.

This co-worker and his wife adopted the children. He is age 62 and working 3rd shift, and he is looking like life after death.
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Times are a changing!



Yes but why??????

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