CZ Bren 2 (807) in .308

Bubacus · September 13, 2018, 05:51

Looks very interesting. Not an official press release, but a nice little bit of info on the .308 CZ Bren:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...62x51-308-win/

**Thorack** · September 13, 2018, 16:23

I'll TAKE IT!

Hopefully a completely tested and wrung out version hits the States soon.

Thorack

Tad_07 · September 13, 2018, 17:34

I could definitely blow a paycheck on that....plus another check for the 556

mp · September 13, 2018, 20:05

SCAR killer.

**bykerhd** · September 13, 2018, 23:58

SCAR's slightly, oh, so slightly, better looking sibling ?

lew · September 14, 2018, 12:51

Hopefully, it's better balanced than the 805's I've mucked around with. And don't get me started on the pistol grip.

HanShotFirst · September 17, 2018, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by mp

SCAR killer.

The BREN is every bit as good, if not better, and a thousand less.
French GIGN just bought the BREN in 7.62x39...now THAT I would be nice to see coming to the States.

Bubacus · September 18, 2018, 06:25

Hanshot your wish is comming true:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...ing-in-the-us/

While the Bren S1 has been available in the US for a number of years the updated S2, based on the Bren 2 has not yet been released, despite the success of the Scorpion EVO 3. CZ-USA have not made an announcement or updated their website so TFB reached out to one of the stores selling the Bren S2, the North Dakota-based Prepper Gun Shop. They confirmed that one of CZ’s wholesale dealers received a small shipment of several hundred guns, seemingly imported as pistols.

Prepper Gun Shop currently has the Bren S2 pistols in two calibers – 7.62x39mm and 5.56x45mm and in three barrel lengths 8-inch, 9-inch, and 11-inch. According to Prepper’s the Brens shipped with the M4 stock adaptor and they decided to put together a brace package with the SB Tactical SBA3 brace. The pistols are also available without braces.

**Thorack** · September 18, 2018, 06:34

Yeah,

Been waiting for the product improved BREN 2 for awhile. Vast improvement over the BREN 1.

Thorack

Tat2 · September 20, 2018, 12:47

Bren 805....meh no. Bren 806.... for $1000 less than a SCAR.... yes. Good luck with that though. I bet they sell for the same money as a SCAR.

I like that the 308 gun uses PMags!

T

Trypcil · September 20, 2018, 14:24

Reminds me of a VZ58! Not that that's a bad thing, different company but pleasantly similar. I wonder how much the 308 will be?

Potshot · October 07, 2018, 12:58

Oooh, could have a 308 Bren with a mag on the bottom too!!

BarnOwlLover · October 09, 2018, 12:24

I may have to dig here, but I'm a bit surprised that there's not a lot more talk about the Bren 2 here. There's pages of info and commentary about it at AK Files.

lew · October 09, 2018, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarnOwlLover

I may have to dig here, but I'm a bit surprised that there's not a lot more talk about the Bren 2 here. There's pages of info and commentary about it at AK Files.

What do you want us to say? It's great to have options, but it's not a terribly remarkable rifle until proven otherwise.

BarnOwlLover · October 10, 2018, 07:47

There's also been a lot of talk about the 5.56 and 7.62x39mm variants over there, especially since a limited number of those got released to the public by CZ USA though selected distributors. General release isn't expected until very late this year or early next year, though.

That being said, the Bren 2 is one of the modern rifles that I'm very interested in as it seems to be a good alternative to the likes of the SCAR and the HK416.

**Blackmore** · October 11, 2018, 07:05

Will Maura even let you have one, OP?

**gunplumber** · October 11, 2018, 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by HanShotFirst

The BREN is every bit as good, if not better, and a thousand less.
French GIGN just bought the BREN in 7.62x39...now THAT I would be nice to see coming to the States.

Yet French RAID, COS, and CCT use the SCAR.

As does German GSG9, and state police MEK and SEK units.

Now I admit, in the 30 + countries that adopted the SCAR, it is mostly spec ops units of military or police special units. But still 3x that of the BREN. So I wonder what metric you are using to determine the BREN "superiority" to the SCAR? And what objective testing data are you using that all these countries failed to see?

Tex · October 13, 2018, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by mp

SCAR killer.

Bite yo tongue! lol

BarnOwlLover · October 31, 2018, 11:23

New video:

Tuhlmann · November 02, 2018, 18:22

Mmmm Daddy like.

Impala_Guy · November 04, 2018, 12:02

I doubt this gun will beat the SCAR 17 in any area except price. Which FN has been gouging on due to exclusivity for far too long. So some competition is a good thing. I've been admiring the 805 since it showed up at PSA, but they've been too slow to recognise the gem they would have had on their hands with a 7.62x39 version. Some of us just arent interested in a .22 caliber carbine that costs $1800 when a nice Colt M4 can be had for $700.

Tat2 · November 04, 2018, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impala_Guy

I doubt this gun will beat the SCAR 17 in any area except price. Which FN has been gouging on due to exclusivity for far too long. So some competition is a good thing. I've been admiring the 805 since it showed up at PSA, but they've been too slow to recognise the gem they would have had on their hands with a 7.62x39 version. Some of us just arent interested in a .22 caliber carbine that costs $1800 when a nice Colt M4 can be had for $700.

The .308 needs to be substantially less than the SCAR and I really don’t see it happening. For $1000 less it would sell well. I do like that it uses PMags.

The 7.62x39 would rock if it used AK mags. But with proprietary mags....meh

T

**gunplumber** · November 05, 2018, 08:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impala_Guy

. Which FN has been gouging on due to exclusivity for far too long.

Made-up word with no objective meaning.

I agree that they are overpriced. But I chose to buy them anyway - because it pleases me. So how was I taken unfair advantage of, due to a crisis situation - which is the typical subjective meaning of that silly word?

Impala_Guy · November 05, 2018, 09:39

It was a tongue in cheek use of the word. FN has a great product thats in demand, so yes they can charge what they want for it. It amazes me that they've had a 10 year run with virtually no competition for a next generation .30 caliber rifle.

Tat2 · November 05, 2018, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunplumber

T

**gunplumber** · November 05, 2018, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tat2

T

I did have to sell all my FALs, all my AR-15s, all my AKs, and all my bolt guns to make it happen, so it really isn't as impressive as one pic might imply.

I still have some hunting shotguns and some 10/22s, but nothing else of note.

Tat2 · November 05, 2018, 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunplumber

I did have to sell all my FALs, all my AR-15s, all my AKs, and all my bolt guns to make it happen, so it really isn't as impressive as one pic might imply.

I still have some hunting shotguns and some 10/22s, but nothing else of note.

I sold a couple of AK’s and a Garand to make me feel better about the cash I spent on mine too. I’m not really a collector anymore and I wanted to consolidate calibers too.

T

September 13, 2018, 05:51	#1
Bubacus Registered FALaholic #: 13971 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,279	CZ Bren 2 (807) in .308 Looks very interesting. Not an official press release, but a nice little bit of info on the .308 CZ Bren: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...62x51-308-win/ __________________ Bubacus

September 13, 2018, 16:23	#2
Thorack Acquisition Corp Dude Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 748 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 12,821	I'll TAKE IT! Hopefully a completely tested and wrung out version hits the States soon. Thorack __________________ 1. Whenever you are talking to a woman realize this person was born insane and you will never be surprised. 2. Never let Doctors cut on you unless its life or death and ALWAYS get a second opinion.

September 14, 2018, 12:51	#6
lew Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 16727 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 8,306	Hopefully, it's better balanced than the 805's I've mucked around with. And don't get me started on the pistol grip. __________________ Statism: Ideas so great, they're mandatory. "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." -Christopher Hitchens

September 18, 2018, 06:25	#8
Bubacus Registered FALaholic #: 13971 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,279	Hanshot your wish is comming true: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...ing-in-the-us/ While the Bren S1 has been available in the US for a number of years the updated S2, based on the Bren 2 has not yet been released, despite the success of the Scorpion EVO 3. CZ-USA have not made an announcement or updated their website so TFB reached out to one of the stores selling the Bren S2, the North Dakota-based Prepper Gun Shop. They confirmed that one of CZ’s wholesale dealers received a small shipment of several hundred guns, seemingly imported as pistols. Prepper Gun Shop currently has the Bren S2 pistols in two calibers – 7.62x39mm and 5.56x45mm and in three barrel lengths 8-inch, 9-inch, and 11-inch. According to Prepper’s the Brens shipped with the M4 stock adaptor and they decided to put together a brace package with the SB Tactical SBA3 brace. The pistols are also available without braces. __________________ Bubacus

September 18, 2018, 06:34	#9
Thorack Acquisition Corp Dude Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 748 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 12,821	Yeah, Been waiting for the product improved BREN 2 for awhile. Vast improvement over the BREN 1. Thorack __________________ 1. Whenever you are talking to a woman realize this person was born insane and you will never be surprised. 2. Never let Doctors cut on you unless its life or death and ALWAYS get a second opinion.

September 13, 2018, 17:34	#3
Tad_07 Registered FALaholic #: 79492 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Tx Posts: 18	I could definitely blow a paycheck on that....plus another check for the 556

September 13, 2018, 20:05	#4
mp Registered FALaholic #: 654 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 2,948	SCAR killer.

September 13, 2018, 23:58	#5
bykerhd Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2798 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Vermont area Posts: 13,263	SCAR's slightly, oh, so slightly, better looking sibling ?

September 20, 2018, 12:47	#10
Tat2 Registered FALaholic #: 52329 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 1,515	Bren 805....meh no. Bren 806.... for $1000 less than a SCAR.... yes. Good luck with that though. I bet they sell for the same money as a SCAR. I like that the 308 gun uses PMags! T

September 20, 2018, 14:24	#11
Trypcil Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 63101 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: GA Posts: 5,020	Reminds me of a VZ58! Not that that's a bad thing, different company but pleasantly similar. I wonder how much the 308 will be? __________________ "It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled!" -- Mark Twain "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." -- Voltaire "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression... There is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such a twilight that we must be most aware of change in the air -- however slight -- lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." -- William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court Justice from 1939-1975 "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -- Krishnamurti

October 07, 2018, 12:58	#12
Potshot Registered FALaholic #: 6398 Join Date: May 2002 Location: xxx Posts: 1,433	Oooh, could have a 308 Bren with a mag on the bottom too!! __________________ Remember, remember! When you vote in November, The gun bans, treason and plot; I know of no reason Why the gun banning treason should ever be forgot.

October 09, 2018, 12:24	#13
BarnOwlLover Registered FALaholic #: 81552 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Mansfield, Ohio Posts: 220	I may have to dig here, but I'm a bit surprised that there's not a lot more talk about the Bren 2 here. There's pages of info and commentary about it at AK Files.

October 10, 2018, 07:47	#15
BarnOwlLover Registered FALaholic #: 81552 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Mansfield, Ohio Posts: 220	There's also been a lot of talk about the 5.56 and 7.62x39mm variants over there, especially since a limited number of those got released to the public by CZ USA though selected distributors. General release isn't expected until very late this year or early next year, though. That being said, the Bren 2 is one of the modern rifles that I'm very interested in as it seems to be a good alternative to the likes of the SCAR and the HK416.

October 11, 2018, 07:05	#16
Blackmore > Dirt Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2690 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: West Central New Hampshire Posts: 5,881	Will Maura even let you have one, OP? __________________ A professional is someone who can do his best work when he doesn't feel like it.

October 31, 2018, 11:23	#19
BarnOwlLover Registered FALaholic #: 81552 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Mansfield, Ohio Posts: 220	New video:

November 02, 2018, 18:22	#20
Tuhlmann THAT guy Contributor FALaholic #: 69411 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Here & There, WI Posts: 2,313	Mmmm Daddy like. __________________ Future Crotchety Ol' Bastard “I’m saying: Think about your contribution to society. Be careful when you get into a business that extracts value. Broaden your idea about what’s enough. And for God’s sake, think about who you are.” - J. Bogle

November 04, 2018, 12:02	#21
Impala_Guy Registered FALaholic #: 55819 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Gamecock Country Posts: 3,298	I doubt this gun will beat the SCAR 17 in any area except price. Which FN has been gouging on due to exclusivity for far too long. So some competition is a good thing. I've been admiring the 805 since it showed up at PSA, but they've been too slow to recognise the gem they would have had on their hands with a 7.62x39 version. Some of us just arent interested in a .22 caliber carbine that costs $1800 when a nice Colt M4 can be had for $700. __________________ Don't spread our wealth around, spread our work ethic.........

November 05, 2018, 09:39	#24
Impala_Guy Registered FALaholic #: 55819 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Gamecock Country Posts: 3,298	It was a tongue in cheek use of the word. FN has a great product thats in demand, so yes they can charge what they want for it. It amazes me that they've had a 10 year run with virtually no competition for a next generation .30 caliber rifle. __________________ Don't spread our wealth around, spread our work ethic.........

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