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Old December 05, 2018, 12:56   #1
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I thought this interesting because it has percentages that say that the lefties want a fundamental change in American democracy. Nothing here that we don't know but interesting how they want "Change".
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...over-the-left/
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Old December 05, 2018, 13:29   #2
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i still don't see how this would be "progress".
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Old December 05, 2018, 14:18   #3
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i still don't see how this would be "progress".
the progressive purpose of realpolitik is to try whatever you can get away with, divorced from ethics, morals, law, custom, common sense, even sanity.

the motive is lus for power for the sake of power, or merely for the lulz of it, the end result is the same.
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Old December 05, 2018, 16:20   #4
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i still don't see how this would be "progress".
Well, Mao thought he was progressive too.
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Old December 05, 2018, 16:28   #5
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I find it somewhat interesting that the dimmer element of humanity seems to be more impressed with their own cognizant abilities, limited as they are, than the more intelligent examples of our species. I do wonder if there is a certain threshold of brains that are required to appreciate ones real place in the grand scheme of things. And if a certain degree of intelligence is required for a person to exhibit humility by extension one might suspect that this is more evidence that the most vocal creatures of the left are also among the stupidest. Not that we needed more, but in my view we do have it.

Somewhat related, I have never seen a chimpanzee exhibit what might be called humility, if anything they are exhibitionists of the worst sort. But then what the hell do I know ...
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I find it somewhat interesting that the dimmer element of humanity seems to be more impressed with their own cognizant abilities, limited as they are, than the more intelligent examples of our species. I do wonder if there is a certain threshold of brains that are required to appreciate ones real place in the grand scheme of things. And if a certain degree of intelligence is required for a person to exhibit humility by extension one might suspect that this is more evidence that the most vocal creatures of the left are also among the stupidest. Not that we needed more, but in my view we do have it.

Somewhat related, I have never seen a chimpanzee exhibit what might be called humility, if anything they are exhibitionists of the worst sort. But then what the hell do I know ...
in the real world, it is kill or be killed; neither action requires much cognizant ability.

warfare being the continuation of politics, by other means;
modern human social politics is warfare by proxy, by way of persuasion/rational argument, or else compelled by force/violence,
the making and settling of scores, using public power to reward your tribe and to punish the enemy tribe, as a prelude to warfare.

america is one of if not the most tolerant of all social hierarchies,
as evidenced by the large number of leftists that are still breathing.

those chimps would never put up with bolshevik chimps in their troops, the bolshies would be slain and eaten, solving two problems at once, eliminating a direct threat to their survival chances, with a bonus nutrition boost.
chimps are more practical in their own way,
we can observe chimps do tend to get shit done collectively with a vengeance, when adequately motivated.
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I find it somewhat interesting that the dimmer element of humanity seems to be more impressed with their own cognizant abilities, limited as they are, than the more intelligent examples of our species. I do wonder if there is a certain threshold of brains that are required to appreciate ones real place in the grand scheme of things. And if a certain degree of intelligence is required for a person to exhibit humility by extension one might suspect that this is more evidence that the most vocal creatures of the left are also among the stupidest. Not that we needed more, but in my view we do have it.

Somewhat related, I have never seen a chimpanzee exhibit what might be called humility, if anything they are exhibitionists of the worst sort. But then what the hell do I know ...
This is excellent and really sums up some of the know nothing left wing ass holes in my extended family. Facebook is their cage, and their idiotic posts are the shit they fling through the bars.
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I find it somewhat interesting that the dimmer element of humanity seems to be more impressed with their own cognizant abilities, limited as they are, than the more intelligent examples of our species. I do wonder if there is a certain threshold of brains that are required to appreciate ones real place in the grand scheme of things. And if a certain degree of intelligence is required for a person to exhibit humility by extension one might suspect that this is more evidence that the most vocal creatures of the left are also among the stupidest. Not that we needed more, but in my view we do have it.

Somewhat related, I have never seen a chimpanzee exhibit what might be called humility, if anything they are exhibitionists of the worst sort. But then what the hell do I know ...
IOW, the intelligent realize just how lacking we all are. Methinks Dunning-Kruger is a model for how most operate.
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Old December 06, 2018, 11:48   #9
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This is excellent and really sums up some of the know nothing left wing ass holes in my extended family. Facebook is their cage, and their idiotic posts are the shit they fling through the bars.
Priceless!

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IOW, the intelligent realize just how lacking we all are. Methinks Dunning-Kruger is a model for how most operate.
Agreed.
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Progressive thoughts...like Yes and Rush and King Crimson and Kansas and Jethro Tull and ELP and Pink Floyd and Genesis and Spinal Tap !

You know, thinking man's music.
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I thought this interesting because it has percentages that say that the lefties want a fundamental change in American democracy. Nothing here that we don't know but interesting how they want "Change".
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...over-the-left/
No change necessary as there is no such thing as American Democracy. The US is a Constitutional Republic. Sadly, I doubt that is even being taught in public schools anymore.
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The Khmer Rouge is a good example of progressive "change" to the far end of the spectrum. Many "progressives" here would gladly advocate this action,here. As long as they are the ones holding the plastic bags.
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The Khmer Rouge is a good example of progressive "change" to the far end of the spectrum. Many "progressives" here would gladly advocate this action,here. As long as they are the ones holding the plastic bags.
In fact their (the Khmer Rouge) end of the spectrum is no different than what all Democrats and, for that matter most Repubs are leading us to. They are just not marching you as quickly and endeavor to put a better face on things. For a while anyway, but their road leads to exactly the same place.

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Yes, Crimson, Tull, ELP, Floyd, Spinal Tap, Sex Pistols, Ramones, Laika and the Cosmonauts absolutely two thumbs up. Kansas, well never really could get my head around that band they always sounded like they were trying too hard to me.
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Well, in regards with the original topic here, the Dems could get away with it. They’d have the entire media minus Fox and Talk Radio advocating for it 24/7, and we know that if people here it often enough, they start seeing it as fact.

The only sure thing I see from this is that there’s plenty on the left that could very easily become a nutcase tinpot third world African dictator given half a chance.
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The time is coming shortly, when a degenerated faggoted Federal Judge says that the Constitution is totally unconstitutional...................as it is unfair to human rights and international laws............ and the BOR's is especially unconstitutional to international norms and the necessity to contorl human actions.

All democrats and communists feel that way right now, and all are waiting for that shoe to drop.
The commies obviously now want to declare that the SCOTUS is itself, an illegal cabal of Nazis, and is unconstitutional to international law and their version of "human rights."

They are banking on using total censorship as a pen dominated weapon to arrest anyone with guns, as being insane due to their political beliefs and position,s and especially for their conservative religions;excepting Catholicism and Islam, for buttt *******is legal in those institutions.

They all want to return to the way it was before 1776, when Kings, Barons and Church officials ruled the lands and killed the peasants.

You are all peasants and will probably die in the legal apocolypse.
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Earlier this year, 68 percent of Democrats said that significant changes were needed to the fundamental structure and design of American Democracy.


The reason for the above is because of the defeat of Hillary and the republicans having control of both Houses.
Maybe the poll results would be different today.
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excepting Catholicism and Islam, for buttt *******is legal in those institutions.

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Ummmm, I hate to ruin your day, but I think the libs have worked to make it legal everywhere in 'Merica now, not just those two illustrious institutions you called out.
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[QUOTE=bubbagump;4666386 I do wonder if there is a certain threshold of brains that are required to appreciate ones real place in the grand scheme of things. And if a certain degree of intelligence is required for a person to exhibit humility by extension one might suspect that this is more evidence that the most vocal creatures of the left are also among the stupidest. Not that we needed more, but in my view we do have it.

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Brother bubbagump, since you are "wondering" about the "threshold" of intelligence. this discussion for brought up on subguns.com and someone stated that "researchers" (I do not know who or from where) concluded that in order for a society to exist, eh average IQ of its members has to be at least 90. Any lower and that society cannot function.

Maybe some of you computer whizz-bangs could find out exactly who did this research and how they came to this conclusion.

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