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Old January 01, 2019, 19:08   #1
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The Jackasses are at it again !

Just saw on the news that they are ready to go for our guns again. Universal background checks and "sensible gun laws" . Pelosi says she's going to get on it ASAP. What's that going to do , who knows? It may be a banner year or two for gun sales and ammo ! Where are prices going but up. Gonna' put in another order for ammo.
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Old January 01, 2019, 21:16   #3
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Nobody expects much more out of Pelosi but more more gun regs. What'll be interesting is what Trump does.

Will Trump turn against the AR crowd?
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Jackasses gonna jackass...

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Old January 02, 2019, 17:35   #6
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On the stack:

UBC

3D printed gun ban

AW ban

Mag ban

Comprehensive "bump stock" device ban

the true devil as always is within the details

for example the 3D ban includes "blanks" and parts kits
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As long as Trump doesn’t start channneling John McStain we will be ok till 2020.
January 2020 could be an eye opener for many. The communists are staking their territory out. Keep an eye on Occulus Cortex she’s real trouble.
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Apply the same standards to immigration and watch them howl....
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I'm surprised the Dems haven't tried to trade an Assault Weapons Ban for the wall funding....after all they are both for the "safety" of the citizens...
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Will Trump turn against the AR crowd?[/QUOTE]

You mean the Semi-Automatic "crowd"?

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Old January 03, 2019, 15:34   #11
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She is too far left for the far left libs. I think she will be a one termer.
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Old January 04, 2019, 03:33   #12
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She is too far left for the far left libs. I think she will be a one termer.
Well CNN was bragging the dems now have like 82 split tails in congress, 18 out of the closet Queers where as the Republicans have ran but 13 bitches for decades

Main issue is Men are not voting

take the nutty Somali girl from MN
does anyone think Somali Men voted for that nutball ?
no it was G-d damned wimmins
and limp wristed white borderline faggot men
mostly wimmins though

Cortez ?
Again dip shit females are her demographic, those who can't think...only feel
Good share of this is due to the sissification of American boys and Men
that dummy wouldn't stand chance in Chicago politics
gives one pause just how stupid they are in NYC huh...

Kunts green policy is unworkable
only way it is doable is with Nukes
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Old January 04, 2019, 11:44   #13
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Keep an eye on Occulus Cortex she’s real trouble.
I've heard her called Occasional Cortex, but Occulus is is hilarious. She is absolutely dumber than a box of hammers.
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She is too far left for the far left libs. I think she will be a one termer.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the average voter in her geo location. Remember what other turds have came from that area......
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It ain't the firearms they want to ban, do away with, its all of you/us.

If ya own firearms, have read the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, believe in those documents, then you are a threat to them and need to be disposed of.

None of this drama is about firearms, hell, who here could not be well armed in a couple hours, if they decided to be well armed???

These people know this.

They are after you and yours, the firearms issue is a way to "smoke" you out in the open.

The threat in these peoples minds is not firearms, it you.
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I rate it sub slate or Sandstone
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They are after you and yours, the firearms issue is a way to "smoke" you out in the open.

The threat in these peoples minds is not firearms, it you.
I wish people would start to get this...
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It ain't the firearms they want to ban, do away with, its all of you/us.

If ya own firearms, have read the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, believe in those documents, then you are a threat to them and need to be disposed of.

None of this drama is about firearms, hell, who here could not be well armed in a couple hours, if they decided to be well armed???

These people know this.

They are after you and yours, the firearms issue is a way to "smoke" you out in the open.

The threat in these peoples minds is not firearms, it you.

They want total control of the populace. They would really like to have a Communist state. AOC is the leader of this movement. She came out of no where and the press and Washington are worshiping the very groiund she walks on. She scares the heck out of me.
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I wish people would start to get this...
Some do, more everyday, folks in NJ and CT gave a huge FU to the government, its a start.
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Some do, more everyday, folks in NJ and CT gave a huge FU to the government, its a start.
after lavoy finicum, they have made clear their intentions.

the vegas staged incident was truly "next level" shit.


they have already thrown down the gauntlet, showed us all what they intend.

the answer to that has yet to be demonstrated, the noncompliance demonstrated in in NJ and CT is a starting point.
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Skip the first 10 minutes...The dems call it the Bipartisan Background Check act of 2019. It is the first attempt to kick the conservatives in the nuts for the new house:

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i can't even listen to that harpy screech and drone anymore. don't torture me.
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Back ground check on all gun sales. HMMM, I wonder if the criminals are going to participate?
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Back ground check on all gun sales. HMMM, I wonder if the criminals are going to participate?
I think it's doubtful, but the goal isn't to stop criminals, it's to harass and further degrade honest citizens rights. Always has been.

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Back ground check on all gun sales. HMMM, I wonder if the criminals are going to participate?
the democrats already consider deplorable irredeemables to be "criminals".

HR8 is merely the stepping stone to get what they want: that being full spectrum suppression of the deplorable irredeemables.

this bill felonizing private transfers, is a means to that end.



HR.8 cosponsors of particular note:

Chrisotpher Smith R NJ 4

Peter King R NY 2

Brian Mast R FL 18

Fred Upton R MI 6

Brian Fitzpatrick R PA 8


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Well, there is another side to this little talked about

1st Dems think this will not effect their base which is pretty damn dumb
but the big one is if they can force the issue and get Trump to capitulate in any way they get 2020 simply by many of Donalds base staying home and/or gaining the Senate.

This is a chess game

In Minnesota what a UBC means is that droves of folks will get CCW or a purchase permit to by pass it Period. I have been encouraging people here hard to do this and many have.

Want funny ?
North Dakota has a pending bill that will compel FFLs to complete all transfers if the buyer passes the Brady check
Seems some folks were pissed over being denied a purchase because the dealer was concerned over possible straw buys, etc.
some stores have denied sales when a guy comes in with gal helping her pick out a pistol, well that's due to how ATFE runs things. This potential law will but shops between a real rock and a hard place but it's a further example of the schism between flyover and the Coast.

The idiot part is practically no mass shooter bought their weapons privately
nearly everyone went through a background check
Sandy Hook, Parkland, Giffords shooting, Paddock in Vegas, etc
plainly obvious a UBC will do nothing to stop mass shooters but even FAUX won't touch that truth.
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Question for one an all.

HOW would anyone enforce all private gun sales be done through a dealer????

NO ONE knows what it out and about in private hands today, so without a registry, how would anyone know when anything changed hands???

If you never register anything, which, if anyone does is simply crazy, then when something goes from one person to another, no one knows.

If they passed this, the underground gun market will explode, in higher prices, etc.

If they truly try and enforce this shit, then the power to be folks will need to "raid" peoples homes, and conduct house to house searches, which will kick off something out of everyone's control.

Who are they going to get to "raid" peoples homes???

Local folks would need to do it, and they live in the local area.

These folks can pass a law that says we all have to get down on all fours, run around chasing rabbits and eating shit, but damn few people will comply with that.

People are not complying now with registration/forced turn in or private property without compensation.

Going to be interesting seeing how all this plays out, outside of DC.

Said another way, if we all see these people "raid" Bobs, Johns, Mikes home, what happens when they "raid" Bubba's house and face off with 200 of his family and close friends, what happens then?????
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Question for one an all.

HOW would anyone enforce all private gun sales be done through a dealer????

NO ONE knows what it out and about in private hands today, so without a registry, how would anyone know when anything changed hands???

If you never register anything, which, if anyone does is simply crazy, then when something goes from one person to another, no one knows.

If they passed this, the underground gun market will explode, in higher prices, etc.

If they truly try and enforce this shit, then the power to be folks will need to "raid" peoples homes, and conduct house to house searches, which will kick off something out of everyone's control.

Who are they going to get to "raid" peoples homes???

Local folks would need to do it, and they live in the local area.

These folks can pass a law that says we all have to get down on all fours, run around chasing rabbits and eating shit, but damn few people will comply with that.

People are not complying now with registration/forced turn in or private property without compensation.

Going to be interesting seeing how all this plays out, outside of DC.

Said another way, if we all see these people "raid" Bobs, Johns, Mikes home, what happens when they "raid" Bubba's house and face off with 200 of his family and close friends, what happens then?????
Well, like most you are not getting it Paul
The notion by urban elites is this will shut down Gun Shows which they view as Deplorable Conventions
It will really have little effect these days particularly on us.
As far as folks selling locally ?
it's just going to be ignored just like how folks in East Grand Forks MN privately buy guns in Grand Forks ND all the damn time and thats been unlawful since 1968

Yardsales up here commonly have guns for sale
think that's going to change any ?
saw like six ARs this last year at garage sales
3 Glocks, all 10mm guns as you can hunt with them here

What will be impacted is junker guns at shows and loose frames but they will still get sold within groups of folks who know each other
Question is would Trump roll over to get the Wall
that's the other potential card being played here
be a very stupid move were he to accept it

Anyways you all remember in many States there is no background check for a permit holder
in fact it would be stupid easy to photoshop up said permit for the purpose of private purchase
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Well, like most you are not getting it Paul
The notion by urban elites is this will shut down Gun Shows which they view as Deplorable Conventions
It will really have little effect these days particularly on us.
As far as folks selling locally ?
it's just going to be ignored just like how folks in East Grand Forks MN privately buy guns in Grand Forks ND all the damn time and thats been unlawful since 1968

Yardsales up here commonly have guns for sale
think that's going to change any ?
saw like six ARs this last year at garage sales
3 Glocks, all 10mm guns as you can hunt with them here

What will be impacted is junker guns at shows and loose frames but they will still get sold within groups of folks who know each other
Question is would Trump roll over to get the Wall
that's the other potential card being played here
be a very stupid move were he to accept it

Anyways you all remember in many States there is no background check for a permit holder
in fact it would be stupid easy to photoshop up said permit for the purpose of private purchase


I suspect they want to build a gun registry in this country and are wanting to use this, make private sales illegal bs as a means to begin doing that, but if I remember correctly, even if they could pass this crap, there's still the GCA 68 that says, no registry can be built. So it would also need to be changed to be legal.

Shutting down gun shows, is more an attack on free speech, freedom to assemble.
They really don;t like it when several hundred or thousand of us deplorable's assemble, all armed and such.
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Well, there is another side to this little talked about

1st Dems think this will not effect their base which is pretty damn dumb....
they do know, they simply do not care, because they know no one that ever will hold them to book.

look at that democrat "base"--the 6 biggest metro areas that account for the overwhelming majority all the murders in the country,
and account for the overwhelming majority of all the mass shooting sprees in the country,
all these metros are blue bastions,

they are farming more of their "constituents",
more violence, more murders.
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I suspect they want to build a gun registry in this country and are wanting to use this, make private sales illegal bs as a means to begin doing that, but if I remember correctly, even if they could pass this crap, there's still the GCA 68 that says, no registry can be built. So it would also need to be changed to be legal.

Shutting down gun shows, is more an attack on free speech, freedom to assemble.
They really don;t like it when several hundred or thousand of us deplorable's assemble, all armed and such.
and that just won't work

the overall logistics are basically undoable

We are talking hundreds of millions of "guns" under the 1968 GCA
under such a registry even a stripped out frame or receiver requires registration. Hell there are likely easy a million junkers alone Paul, I figure way more than that actually.

That's on top of hundreds of millions of other running firearms to track
Yeah dummies think they can create some controllable registry
notice nearly all of them reside in dimwit States and are Either Jewish or wimmins

Schumer is a smart cookie, a gun owner and collector himself. He well knows a registry is a lost cause in America. I think Feinstein does as well, it's a hopeless endeavor.
Cost would be into the billions easy

The problem is average urban Joe & Jane don't realize the real scope of the overall situation nationally and how many would say Fukk Off just like the mostly Church going Female driven debacle of Alcohol prohibition.

I mean it sounds sensible on CNN or MSNBC, an easy thing to do but the reality is something completely different
remember in the lead up to the 1935 Act no less than FDRs own AG argued against a handgun registry, over seven decades ago
Morganthau demanded it but Congress regained some sense in the end

Today the cat is so far out of the bag, well you get the idea

Some States would end up passing their own acts mirroring recreational weed or immigration law outright prohibiting local compliance/enforcement...see how that works wacko liberals ?
yeah no cooperation with ATFE on gun related shit, any of it

that's the unintended consequences of this angle that some even here don't understand.

Myself, I'd love a sit-down with Schumer, shit I would bring him to midwestern shows and put him in a wig and fake mustache.
no media either
as it stands, he only Represents Jew York but attempts to speak for us all
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they do know, they simply do not care, because they know no one that ever will hold them to book.

look at that democrat "base"--the 6 biggest metro areas that account for the overwhelming majority all the murders in the country,
and account for the overwhelming majority of all the mass shooting sprees in the country,
all these metros are blue bastions,

they are farming more of their "constituents",
more violence, more murders.
Well if you break down the voting stats in those areas most voters are Wimmins
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and that just won't work

the overall logistics are basically undoable

We are talking hundreds of millions of "guns" under the 1968 GCA
under such a registry even a stripped out frame or receiver requires registration. Hell there are likely easy a million junkers alone Paul, I figure way more than that actually.

That's on top of hundreds of millions of other running firearms to track
Yeah dummies think they can create some controllable registry
notice nearly all of them reside in dimwit States and are Either Jewish or wimmins

Schumer is a smart cookie, a gun owner and collector himself. He well knows a registry is a lost cause in America. I think Feinstein does as well, it's a hopeless endeavor.
Cost would be into the billions easy

The problem is average urban Joe & Jane don't realize the real scope of the overall situation nationally and how many would say Fukk Off just like the mostly Church going Female driven debacle of Alcohol prohibition.

I mean it sounds sensible on CNN or MSNBC, an easy thing to do but the reality is something completely different
remember in the lead up to the 1935 Act no less than FDRs own AG argued against a handgun registry, over seven decades ago
Morganthau demanded it but Congress regained some sense in the end

Today the cat is so far out of the bag, well you get the idea

Some States would end up passing their own acts mirroring recreational weed or immigration law outright prohibiting local compliance/enforcement...see how that works wacko liberals ?
yeah no cooperation with ATFE on gun related shit, any of it

that's the unintended consequences of this angle that some even here don't understand.

Myself, I'd love a sit-down with Schumer, shit I would bring him to midwestern shows and put him in a wig and fake mustache.
no media either
as it stands, he only Represents Jew York but attempts to speak for us all
Hebrew and Gentile alike
You well know I got no use for the worthless bastard, have zero in common with the man, would shed no tears over him, over anything to befall his ass.

When I see or hear schemer and polosic, my first thoughts go directly to secession!

These ass wipes have to know, non compliance would be the order of the day, but onward they march.
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You well know I got no use for the worthless bastard, have zero in common with the man, would shed no tears over him, over anything to befall his ass.

When I see or hear schemer and polosic, my first thoughts go directly to secession!

These ass wipes have to know, non compliance would be the order of the day, but onward they march.
again it's just a chip in the grand game for either

Schumer wants a form of Israeli gun control here which as we have discussed is about the worst on the planet in any Nation where citizens are allowed to own their own firearms
He knows it will never happen within his lifetime

Did ya' know he has NYC CCW ?
allegedly he packs a G19

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again it's just a chip in the grand game for either

Schumer wants a form of Israeli gun control here which as we have discussed is about the worst on the planet in any Nation where citizens are allowed to own their own firearms
He knows it will never happen within his lifetime

Did ya' know he has NYC CCW ?
allegedly he packs a G19

Just for me, not for thee
Israel does not think much/highly of schemer, see him for what he is.

As for Izzy gun laws, they be changing and changing pretty fast.

1.8 million muzzie citizens was the original reason behind their laws, but even with that, normal people are demanding to be armed, and the laws are changing.
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Israel does not think much/highly of schemer, see him for what he is.

As for Izzy gun laws, they be changing and changing pretty fast.

1.8 million muzzie citizens was the original reason behind their laws, but even with that, normal people are demanding to be armed, and the laws are changing.
and the still are prohibited any long guns there
even damn BB guns

last I heard they passed law if your licensed, registered pistol was not being carried it had to be locked up & it's still unlawful to possess over 50 rounds of ammo privately

as it stands
ISREAL has became the vacation destination for Queers, and now Stoners
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They don't care if the "registry" is "unworkable". They care that there is law, and that two things will happen:

1. we will modify our behavior due to fear of the law. This will work with more than 95% of the people who own guns, and

2. unpredictable and haphazard "enforcement" of law on the remaining 5% will create news (mostly bad, of course), which will further cause further modification.

No guns in circulation. No practicing at the range. It will be like 2018 France in the countryside: no guns as far as anyone knows, but lots of houses have the working WWII piece + ammo in the attic.

We'll be scared and disarmed like Brits are today.
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RS -

They don't care if the "registry" is "unworkable". They care that there is law, and that two things will happen:

1. we will modify our behavior due to fear of the law. This will work with more than 95% of the people who own guns, and

2. unpredictable and haphazard "enforcement" of law on the remaining 5% will create news (mostly bad, of course), which will further cause further modification.

No guns in circulation. No practicing at the range. It will be like 2018 France in the countryside: no guns as far as anyone knows, but lots of houses have the working WWII piece + ammo in the attic.

We'll be scared and disarmed like Brits are today.
Nope buddy
that's West Coast think

Okay
lets talk "law"
how well did Prohibition work ?

How well has anti weed law worked, shit last I heard Oregone was lookin' at legalizing shrooms

did Sodomy laws stop fags
nope

reality is when law becomes cumbersome your 95% will violate rather than follow it, cops won't enforce it either
America at it's core is lawless, push the people far enough they say fukk off
that occurred under Prohibition and it happens to varying degrees every time some bunch of elite nutters attempt to impose their collective will on the people.
Sorry, Portlandia don't speak for America
neither do Negros in Shitcago or New York Jews like Schumer and his butt buddy Steven Isreal
or kunts like Cortez
they represent their districts which utterly depend on Deplorables to create food and transit it to them
We also supply near all the grid power

Just a mere 20% shutdown would leave them starving within 2 weeks and wiping asses with bare fingers & yes that could happen if the core gets pushed too hard and fast left.

want insane ?
30 years ago MN was way left of Oregon but these days you are at least a decade ahead of us all, a total fruiter zone to even the left of much of California
The idiotic part is you guys just figure all of America is just going to roll over with dead paws in the air because you guys turned in your Man Card to be all lawful and shit

How does it feel now knowing you are a Serf
shit you just figure, even expect everyone else will be too
that's pretty damn sad
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and the still are prohibited any long guns there
even damn BB guns

last I heard they passed law if your licensed, registered pistol was not being carried it had to be locked up & it's still unlawful to possess over 50 rounds of ammo privately

as it stands
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big time Rainbow tourism nation
Israel appears to have figured out their main issue, how to keep firearms out of the hands of their muzzie citizens, knives are bad enough there.

Grant licenses to anyone that reached NCO rank or above in the IDF.

Which is damn near whole country.

Minus their muzzies, who can serve, but don't.

As for the other, your words, not mine,,, "Queers, Stoners", once kept me alive more than once in lands far, far away, kinda nice folks, many fine soldiers too.

Anyone that gives two shits about whomever someone else sleeps with, needs a hobby, got way too much time on their hands.

Anyone that messes with a child/innocent in any fashion, needs to be shot on the spot.
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RS -

They don't care if the "registry" is "unworkable". They care that there is law, and that two things will happen:

1. we will modify our behavior due to fear of the law. This will work with more than 95% of the people who own guns, and

2. unpredictable and haphazard "enforcement" of law on the remaining 5% will create news (mostly bad, of course), which will further cause further modification.

No guns in circulation. No practicing at the range. It will be like 2018 France in the countryside: no guns as far as anyone knows, but lots of houses have the working WWII piece + ammo in the attic.

We'll be scared and disarmed like Brits are today.
yep, this makes sense, as to their end goal.
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And we can discuss some more law , the dems just thumb their noses at "law"
What about these red flag events , where is the "law" in that ?


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Israel appears to have figured out their main issue, how to keep firearms out of the hands of their muzzie citizens, knives are bad enough there.

Grant licenses to anyone that reached NCO rank or above in the IDF.

Which is damn near whole country.

Minus their muzzies, who can serve, but don't.

As for the other, your words, not mine,,, "Queers, Stoners", once kept me alive more than once in lands far, far away, kinda nice folks, many fine soldiers too.

Anyone that gives two shits about whomever someone else sleeps with, needs a hobby, got way too much time on their hands.

Anyone that messes with a child/innocent in any fashion, needs to be shot on the spot.
yeah one gun, a pistol with no more than 50 rounds of ammo in possession
They sure figured out "something" I guess
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yeah one gun, a pistol with no more than 50 rounds of ammo in possession
They sure figured out "something" I guess
They got to walk before running, have 1,8 million, out of 7 million to be concerned with, at least there, vs here, the laws and law makers are going in the right direction for a change.

In perspective, would you like say, 60 million muzzie gunned up morons, dedicated/sworn to murdering you and yours, walking around here in the states?????

25 or so of the bastards damned near brought this country to its knees, dealing with 60 million on the rampage, all gunned up, looking to murder, well, its a hell of way for them to live, and they manage it far better than I suspect our snowflake population would.

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They got to walk before running, have 1,8 million, out of 7 million to be concerned with, at least there, vs here, the laws and law makers are going in the right direction for a change.

In perspective, would you like say, 60 million muzzie gunned up morons, dedicated/sworn to murdering you and yours, walking around here in the states?????

25 or so of the bastards damned near brought this country to its knees, dealing with 60 million on the rampage, all gunned up, looking to murder, well, its a hell of way for them to live, and they manage it far better than I suspect our snowflake population would.

Perspective in all matters.
Just sayin' it amounted to no real change in the status quo there
Instead of taking 6 to 8 months to get a permit now it's maybe 3 to 4 months
Still can't own a Daisy Red Ryder

Now the flip side is Israel demonstrates the fallacy of Gun Bans
not only are the muzzle who want them able to acquire them there is an abundance of illegally held automatic weapons in Jewish hands, particularly in the West Bank
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Just sayin' it amounted to no real change in the status quo there
Instead of taking 6 to 8 months to get a permit now it's maybe 3 to 4 months
Still can't own a Daisy Red Ryder

Now the flip side is Israel demonstrates the fallacy of Gun Bans
not only are the muzzle who want them able to acquire them there is an abundance of illegally held automatic weapons in Jewish hands, particularly in the West Bank
Again, its moving in the right direction.

I've seen some of the cobbled together weapons these bastards use, its a wonder they don't blow themselves up.

I'm a member of the, an armed society is a polite society.
Goes without saying, we'd have no firearm laws, except have a firearm of your choice if up to me.
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Again, its moving in the right direction.

I've seen some of the cobbled together weapons these bastards use, its a wonder they don't blow themselves up.

I'm a member of the, an armed society is a polite society.
Goes without saying, we'd have no firearm laws, except have a firearm of your choice if up to me.
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shit brother, have you seen the abortions the Haganuh were cobbling up when the European Jewish wetbacks were fighting the English ?
There's a couple great resistance museums in Israel. Truth be told I believe the Arabs probably took a great deal of inspiration from the Jewish Guerrilla Guns on display.

Pipe Mortars ?
Yep the Haganuh was building them in the 40s from Sewer pipe. One popular model was the Davidka, Little David...Sewer pipe & Angle Iron launching Pipe bombs in terrorist attacks...sound familiar ?
PLO didn't come up with this shit, Jewish Terrorists did decades ago
only unique things to come out of Gaza have been rockets & fire kites

Same with the PLO home-brew SMg's
Most are nearly identical to the old Jewish garage workshop shit from the resistance period

I have studied improvised firearms since the 70s
The Jews were just extremely prolific in cranking out pipe guns early on using tooling like home built foot powered treadle lathes based on old Sewing machine bits
Home made welders, green sand casting bits out of whatever scrap aluminum they could find and mind this, it went on for years after 1949 as there just wasn't enough guns to arm the people of the new Nation.
As such Israelis were cranking crap out to arm the Kibbutz with very little common standard.
They were wide open on this into the 80s

Thing was the left there was demanding gun control policy and it was not to disarm Arabs
nope the worry was Conservative elements which were becoming militant
Things went stuck on stupid after the Assassination of Prime Minister Rabin in like 95'
Of course the year before that you had that full on NUTTER Baruch Goldstein wax 29 muzzie in Hebron with his Galil before he was righteously beaten to death by survivors...they tore his body apart.
Goldstein not unsurprisingly was a Brooklyn Jew and member of the JDL who immigrated and joined the IDF in the 80s
He donned his dress uniform, grabbed his Gali and 4 loaded mags & at least one grenade.
everyone assumed he was security forces until he started his murder spree.
Today his grave remains a pilgrimage site for his fellow nutters.

anyways let's leave Islam out of the conversation as any part of the reason why Gun laws went crazy in Israel, it was a variety of incidents at the hands of largely American nutters who likely would vote Democrat and favor gun bans in America like nearly all our domestic mass shooters here.
The root of it all was Jewish violence against both Arabs & even other Jews
I know it's a bitter pill but that is the actual reality of what brought it all on.
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shit brother, have you seen the abortions the Haganuh were cobbling up when the European Jewish wetbacks were fighting the English ?
There's a couple great resistance museums in Israel. Truth be told I believe the Arabs probably took a great deal of inspiration from the Jewish Guerrilla Guns on display.

Pipe Mortars ?
Yep the Haganuh was building them in the 40s from Sewer pipe. One popular model was the Davidka, Little David...Sewer pipe & Angle Iron launching Pipe bombs in terrorist attacks...sound familiar ?
PLO didn't come up with this shit, Jewish Terrorists did decades ago
only unique things to come out of Gaza have been rockets & fire kites

Same with the PLO home-brew SMg's
Most are nearly identical to the old Jewish garage workshop shit from the resistance period

I have studied improvised firearms since the 70s
The Jews were just extremely prolific in cranking out pipe guns early on using tooling like home built foot powered treadle lathes based on old Sewing machine bits
Home made welders, green sand casting bits out of whatever scrap aluminum they could find and mind this, it went on for years after 1949 as there just wasn't enough guns to arm the people of the new Nation.
As such Israelis were cranking crap out to arm the Kibbutz with very little common standard.
They were wide open on this into the 80s

Thing was the left there was demanding gun control policy and it was not to disarm Arabs
nope the worry was Conservative elements which were becoming militant
Things went stuck on stupid after the Assassination of Prime Minister Rabin in like 95'
Of course the year before that you had that full on NUTTER Baruch Goldstein wax 29 muzzie in Hebron with his Galil before he was righteously beaten to death by survivors...they tore his body apart.
Goldstein not unsurprisingly was a Brooklyn Jew and member of the JDL who immigrated and joined the IDF in the 80s
He donned his dress uniform, grabbed his Gali and 4 loaded mags & at least one grenade.
everyone assumed he was security forces until he started his murder spree.
Today his grave remains a pilgrimage site for his fellow nutters.

anyways let's leave Islam out of the conversation as any part of the reason why Gun laws went crazy in Israel, it was a variety of incidents at the hands of largely American nutters who likely would vote Democrat and favor gun bans in America like nearly all our domestic mass shooters here.
The root of it all was Jewish violence against both Arabs & even other Jews
I know it's a bitter pill but that is the actual reality of what brought it all on.

I've visited their Sten underground factory, rough, but somewhat modern, more than workable.

As for the history, we disagree somewhat/greatly at times, have read, and or digested different accounts.
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I've visited their Sten underground factory, rough, but somewhat modern, more than workable.

As for the history, we disagree somewhat/greatly at times, have read, and or digested different accounts.
Consider that STEN factory was turning out guns into the 60s for even the IDF reserve and security forces.
The Izzys released a mess of STEN MKII kits years ago, those were interchangable with UK spec. Main difference was a die cast magazine housing emblazoned with a big ole' Star of David

The early crap wasn't at all "somewhat modern", rude & crude as all fukk
but that's what Partizan made guns are like, don't matter who really makes them either
Probably the best builders have been the Darra guns out of Pakistan closely followed by some of the VC constructs
1940's Izzy was nothing at all close to that quality for the most part

anyways as stated what led to wacko nutball gun control in Israel wasn't Moslems with guns but rather nutter Jewish extremists particularly after they took out Yitzack Rabin over the Clinton inspired Oslo Accords

I don't want to make this anymore about Israel though friend.
Back to the subject at hand
Much of the planet is shifting in nature
Brexit, Trump, the new Philippine government, the new Presidente of Brazil, the Yellow Jacket movement, hell even Putin has relaxed Gun laws in the Russian Republics.
And of course recent very slight changes in Izzy gun regulation...

In fact Socialism is imploding at a rather rapid pace over much of the globe
where this ends up, G-d only knows.
There are powerful elites who seek to enslave the whole of humanity in gilded cages. Turn much of the species into happy little mindless Eloi
problem is Morlock blood is thick on this rock

The presumption was made earlier in this thread that the vast majority will take a bent knee to remain compliant with authority.
That's a fallacy.
Look at what has happened with Weed
been Federally prohibited since the 30s
Citizens have recently raised a stiff middle finger to all that.

RKBA is well more complicated but this notion that folks with certain classes of arms will just roll over on their backs to me is laughable at best.
America is NOT Australia
we are not Europe either where rule of law is worshiped
Germans are just awful for it, probably why Shitler and Company were easily able to lead them into the worst of things friend.

I chuckle a bit at Democrat proposals like the 2019 AW act
If you like your semi auto and over 10 round mag you can keep them
you just can't ever transfer them
Yeah right, good luck with that one dipshits

Think a bit, that's worse than MGs...
add to that most CCW pistols run an over 10 round magazine
can you say massive non compliance ?
I can
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Consider that STEN factory was turning out guns into the 60s for even the IDF reserve and security forces.
The Izzys released a mess of STEN MKII kits years ago, those were interchangable with UK spec. Main difference was a die cast magazine housing emblazoned with a big ole' Star of David

The early crap wasn't at all "somewhat modern", rude & crude as all fukk
but that's what Partizan made guns are like, don't matter who really makes them either
Probably the best builders have been the Darra guns out of Pakistan closely followed by some of the VC constructs
1940's Izzy was nothing at all close to that quality for the most part

anyways as stated what led to wacko nutball gun control in Israel wasn't Moslems with guns but rather nutter Jewish extremists particularly after they took out Yitzack Rabin over the Clinton inspired Oslo Accords

I don't want to make this anymore about Israel though friend.
Back to the subject at hand
Much of the planet is shifting in nature
Brexit, Trump, the new Philippine government, the new Presidente of Brazil, the Yellow Jacket movement, hell even Putin has relaxed Gun laws in the Russian Republics.
And of course recent very slight changes in Izzy gun regulation...

In fact Socialism is imploding at a rather rapid pace over much of the globe
where this ends up, G-d only knows.
There are powerful elites who seek to enslave the whole of humanity in gilded cages. Turn much of the species into happy little mindless Eloi
problem is Morlock blood is thick on this rock

The presumption was made earlier in this thread that the vast majority will take a bent knee to remain compliant with authority.
That's a fallacy.
Look at what has happened with Weed
been Federally prohibited since the 30s
Citizens have recently raised a stiff middle finger to all that.

RKBA is well more complicated but this notion that folks with certain classes of arms will just roll over on their backs to me is laughable at best.
America is NOT Australia
we are not Europe either where rule of law is worshiped
Germans are just awful for it, probably why Shitler and Company were easily able to lead them into the worst of things friend.

I chuckle a bit at Democrat proposals like the 2019 AW act
If you like your semi auto and over 10 round mag you can keep them
you just can't ever transfer them
Yeah right, good luck with that one dipshits

Think a bit, that's worse than MGs...
add to that most CCW pistols run an over 10 round magazine
can you say massive non compliance ?
I can

I agree fully with ya, socialism is falling apart worldwide, and like a wounded dangerous animal, its going to get real mean and nasty before we put this shit down.
And 100 yrs from now, that generation will put it down, again, until it raises its ugly ass head up once again.
Socialism looks good on paper, can draw in the gullible, ill informed, but in practice, is disgusting on all levels.
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