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Old November 01, 2017, 12:13   #1
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Baby Poop On An Enfield No 2 Mk I

Never knew the Rhodesian's painted their revolvers too. Neat Enfield that was auctioned on GB last week. Has the correct stamps on the butt and even the number font is the same of another Enfield that was not painted. I have never seen one painted.

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Old November 01, 2017, 15:37   #2
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I have to wonder how many hits from those 650 fps 178 grain FMJ .38's it took to stop some African guerilla in his tracks.

Remember that the US Army was armed with the Colt M1892 chambered for the .38 Long Colt which had a 150 grain RNL at 750 fps and it proved to be a very poor man stopper when used during the 1902-05 Moro Insurrection.

And so it goes.


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Old November 01, 2017, 18:15   #3
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That's really cool, I wasnt aware of that either (assuming it's a true Rhodesian used piece). Did you end up with it OP?
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Old November 01, 2017, 19:34   #4
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No I collect the old girls but could not bring myself to bid due to it being mismatched. I know I am a fool The history behind it must be amazing and sorry now I did not bid but some lucky fello got it. Yes it is original after all the research I have done after the fact. I hope whom ever got it will post and yes he should be proud. IMHO it was carried and used as a side arm or like we all say a weapon of last resort. Still that is a cool bit of history.
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I'll bet it was pulled out of storage and given to some civilian for personal defense, rather than being carried on duty during the Bush War. The Army and Air Force issued the Hi Power and Star Model B, while the BSAP was armed with the P38/P1.
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Old November 02, 2017, 12:51   #6
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Butt is marked SRG for South Rhodesian government and a rack number. No clue what the MWD stands for on side.
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I'll bet it was pulled out of storage and given to some civilian for personal defense, rather than being carried on duty during the Bush War. The Army and Air Force issued the Hi Power and Star Model B, while the BSAP was armed with the P38/P1.
Rhodesian Army also issued CZ75 pistols.
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Rhodesian Army also issued CZ75 pistols.
Have you a source for that?
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Butt is marked SRG for South Rhodesian government and a rack number. No clue what the MWD stands for on side.
The "Southern Rhodesian Government" stamp would be typical for a revolver issued during the Federation days: 1953-1963. I wouldn't expect an Enfield to be carried for much longer after that, as semi-auto pistols were became commonplace.
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Have you a source for that?
Very rare. Slides are marked with "RAXXXX" similar to the Rhodesian FALs.


http://www.newrhodesian.ca/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=4378

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=29269.0

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That's a very rare CZ75! One, it is a rare shortrail or first model and second it is "RAXXX" marked Rhodesian issued pistol. Thanks for sharing.
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Not really surprised a lot of weird stuff has turned up a lot of weird places ..

I have seen American 180 22lr sub gun with silencer in the hands of the selous scotes ..They liked them a lot ..Very quite massive firepower

Heck I have seen farmers in Malysia during the ciris issues Deleisde carbines


But that is a cool gun ..How much it went for ?
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Not really surprised a lot of weird stuff has turned up a lot of weird places ..

I have seen American 180 22lr sub gun with silencer in the hands of the selous scotes ..They liked them a lot ..Very quite massive firepower

Heck I have seen farmers in Malysia during the ciris issues Deleisde carbines


But that is a cool gun ..How much it went for ?


http://www.gunbroker.com/item/709079681
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Cool. Learn something every day.
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No kidding. That's really cool. I wonder how those wound up there. How willing was CZ of the period to deal with non-Combloc countries? I'd be really surprised to hear of guerrillas getting their hands on a new-production pistol when there were scads of surplus pistols sitting around.
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Hi guys, I know I'm a bit late on this thread but just so you know that Rhodesian Enfield revolver is in good hands. The seller was mistaken when they listed it as not matching. It is all matching but the seller must have confused when looking at it.
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Very cool. I assume the grips were removed before painting. Is the grip frame under the grips painted? How does it shoot? Thanks.
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I'll bet it was pulled out of storage and given to some civilian for personal defense, rather than being carried on duty during the Bush War. The Army and Air Force issued the Hi Power and Star Model B, while the BSAP was armed with the P38/P1.
I've seen some pictures of some BSAP wearing revolver holsters. They definitely had revolvers in inventory including Enfields and Webleys. I don't think that the Army or Air Force had them in active service by UDI. Nver seen a picture or heard of any pistols being painted, though, which is not to say it wasn't done.

The civilian explanation could be plausible, too, I suppose, although given that the bulk of the Rhodie stuff came in as Zim surplus, it seems more likely to have remained in government hands.
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No kidding. That's really cool. I wonder how those wound up there. How willing was CZ of the period to deal with non-Combloc countries? I'd be really surprised to hear of guerrillas getting their hands on a new-production pistol when there were scads of surplus pistols sitting around.
Not sure how the Rhodesians came to buy them. They also bought a few Czechoslovakian ZKK-601s set up as sniper rifles. From what I recall these firearms were indeed purchased, but it could have been from an arms dealer or something and not directly from CZ or BRNO.
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Not sure how the Rhodesians came to buy them. They also bought a few Czechoslovakian ZKK-601s set up as sniper rifles. From what I recall these firearms were indeed purchased, but it could have been from an arms dealer or something and not directly from CZ or BRNO.
Did not know that about the ZKK. Thanks for that tidbit. I wonder who ultimately ended up with them.
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