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Old February 25, 2019, 10:17   #1
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special weapons SW3 (91 clone)???

Never heard of them, but local guy is selling one for $500 so I thought I would consider it.

stamped Special Weapons Inc, Grand Heaven MI, SW3 Cal 308

Worth it?
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Old February 25, 2019, 12:26   #2
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Worth it.
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Old February 25, 2019, 13:32   #3
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Special weapons sold assembled rifles and stripped receivers. Some of the receivers were cast stainless steel. Look it over first. Price is good.

This has a cast Stainless receiver.
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Old February 25, 2019, 13:42   #4
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Much of SW built stuff is poor. And Todd was a real piece of shit.

The stainless receivers were buildable and arguably better than the CAI soft carbon steel stampings.

I'd want some guarantee that it runs. Price is almost too good for a decent, functioning G3 type.



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Old February 25, 2019, 14:04   #5
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Price is low because the seller is an AR person and thinks all the old guns are crap. Bought a DSA DS Fal from him for 700 last year. he took this in on a trade and can not understand why someone would want a heavy gun LOL. I plan on meeting him at the range and will test fire it first.
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Old February 25, 2019, 15:32   #6
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Price is low because the seller is an AR person and thinks all the old guns are crap. Bought a DSA DS Fal from him for 700 last year. he took this in on a trade and can not understand why someone would want a heavy gun LOL. I plan on meeting him at the range and will test fire it first.
Let him know that G3 design is newer than the AR is!

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Old February 25, 2019, 16:01   #7
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I have a SW 93 that runs very well.
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Let him know that G3 design is newer than the AR is!

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Well - not by much. Not if you trace the G3 to the MKb Gerät 06 (produced as the StG 45) and the DI AR to the French MAS 38/39 produced as the limited production MAS mle 44 and better known as the later MAS Mle 49 and 49/56.
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How does one cast a receiver originally intended to be sheet metal with a wall thickness of around 0.075?
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How does one cast a receiver originally intended to be sheet metal with a wall thickness of around 0.075?
It steps down in the back for the stock ferrule, to account for the greater wall thickness. It took a lot of careful fitting.

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Well went to the range and had a FTF/FTE about every 8 or 10 rounds, so passed on this rifle. Thanks for all the help everyone.
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How does one cast a receiver originally intended to be sheet metal with a wall thickness of around 0.075?
I think Hesse tried that, biggest abomination I ever seen..
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How does one cast a receiver originally intended to be sheet metal with a wall thickness of around 0.075?
The cast receivers may be a little thicker in some areas. I did not do the build myself, so I can't speak about any fitting, ect. But it is well done. Completely reliable. Bolt gap now is the same as when I received it.
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I think Hesse tried that, biggest abomination I ever seen..
I am wrong, was thinking of the Federal Armaments receiver.
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Well went to the range and had a FTF/FTE about every 8 or 10 rounds, so passed on this rifle. Thanks for all the help everyone.
Bet the trigger pack wasn’t riding high enough. A small
shim on the shelf fixed my similar problem one time.
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This is sort of off topic but regardless of their quality, it's actually really quite impressive from an engineering perspective that they're able to make a cast version of an receiver that was originally designed to be sheet metal. The thin walls couldn't have been an easy task.
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I'm not sure if SW made the stainless cast receiver in my Century CETME I bought about 15 years ago. It functions just fine.

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Springfield made a cast receiver on the post ban Sar 8's with the weaver rail, those things are a giant POS.
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Springfield made a cast receiver on the post ban Sar 8's with the weaver rail, those things are a giant POS.
Coonan made them for CAI, then Springfield bought the rights. Big mistake in my opinion.
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I bought two of the Century SS receivers before PTR started producing theirs. I built one and it runs fine, the other one around in the pile somewhere. PTR is a much better choice IMO.
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Springfield made a cast receiver on the post ban Sar 8's with the weaver rail, those things are a giant POS.
You mean the cast aluminum monstrosities? Weren't those nicknamed the alumi-bombs?
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You mean the cast aluminum monstrosities? Weren't those nicknamed the alumi-bombs?
Williams FAL receivers.
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The old Federal Arms receivers were quite clunky looking:

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