Reading that

Bawana jim · September 30, 2018, 11:36

Some stores are not carrying 357 and 38 ammo anymore because it doesn't sell well. Might want to check what your store is doing. Looking at grafs for jacketed bullets it seems there is a shortage of some Speer bullets.

TenTea · September 30, 2018, 14:32

I'm incredulous, but at the same time realize revolvers are not the bread and butter of gunmakers anymore.
Bullseye is not so popular either and long barrels are out of vouge.
Isn't a .38/.357 ubiquitous in everyone's firearm accoomalation?
I would list them by handgun popularity as:
.22LR
9mm
.45 Auto
.38/.357
.44 Mag
.45 Colt
...and on down the line.

Maybe nobody shoots them anymore, so no need of ammo?

meltblown · September 30, 2018, 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenTea

I'm incredulous, but at the same time realize revolvers are not the bread and butter of gunmakers anymore.
Bullseye is not so popular either and long barrels are out of vouge.
Isn't a .38/.357 ubiquitous in everyone's firearm accoomalation?
I would list them by handgun popularity as:
.22LR
9mm
.45 Auto
.38/.357
.44 Mag
.45 Colt
...and on down the line.

Maybe nobody shoots them anymore, so no need of ammo?

Had a Ruger Super Blackhawk 40 years ago. Sold it and never had another revolver.

TenTea · September 30, 2018, 15:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltblown

Had a Ruger Super Blackhawk 40 years ago. Sold it and never had another revolver.

I have suffered from Smithitus at times and favor 1950's guns and N frames.
I only own a few now, but still really enjoy them...fired 50 rounds through one yesterday, as a matter of fact.

meltblown · September 30, 2018, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenTea

I have suffered from Smithitus at times and favor 1950's guns and N frames.
I only own a few now, but still really enjoy them...fired 50 rounds through one yesterday, as a matter of fact.

Always sorta wanted a Dirty Harry version. Python was the holy grail in my youth. Buy no way I’d pay the price they cost now. About the only thing on my bucket list is a nice high power. The sig 320 I have is the only one in my stash that will eventually find a new home. I think I’d rather have a CZ than it

Bawana jim · September 30, 2018, 15:31

It's really funny watching the young guys at the gun club trying to shoot revolvers. Guy was shooting at the 6 inch steel from the bench rest with an L frame Smith and could only hit one out of six. The look on his face when I used the K38 to knock down 6 out of six double action while standing up was priceless.

15 yards is child's play

TenTea · September 30, 2018, 15:47

I know a guy (a little green) who thinks a snub is only good as a belly gun.

Well, I have some news for him and I'm willing to prove it! HAHA!

Bawana jim · September 30, 2018, 17:40

I went to my local gun store to check my own bs. Bimart usually carries a good selection of reloading bullets in 38 cal. Today they had one box of 125 and one box of 158 grain bullets. So I went to Sportsmans Wear house and couldn't find hardly any Speer bullets, no gold dots to be found. Looks like online for me if I am going to buy bullets.

medicmike · September 30, 2018, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

I went to my local gun store to check my own bs. Bimart usually carries a good selection of reloading bullets in 38 cal. Today they had one box of 125 and one box of 158 grain bullets. So I went to Sportsmans Wear house and couldn't find hardly any Speer bullets, no gold dots to be found. Looks like online for me if I am going to buy bullets.

I popped into Bi-Mart today to grab some chicken scratch (very limited options for shopping here in Florence), I didn't check the reloading supplies but they did have boxes of bulk .38 Spl on the end cap with the other discounted ammo.

Bawana jim · September 30, 2018, 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by medicmike

I popped into Bi-Mart today to grab some chicken scratch (very limited options for shopping here in Florence), I didn't check the reloading supplies but they did have boxes of bulk .38 Spl on the end cap with the other discounted ammo.

Thinking ahead if they don't carry much 38 or 357 it's going to get expensive like 44 mag and 45 colt. Add to that as ammo gets spendy the value of your guns will go down unless they are collectors guns. Shooters are cheap people in general and why would they buy a 357 mag that cost $35 a box when they can buy 9mm for $9?

I reload so I won't let mine go but I will stock up on jacketed bullets.

Bimart had a sale on hunting ammo and I bought 22 250 for $13.49 for federal. Can't buy brass and load them that cheap.

TenTea · September 30, 2018, 19:38

I cast wadcutters for .38 and semiwadcutters for .357 and I have more than a 5 gallon bucket full of brass for each, along with gobs of lead alloy and powder, so no worries here.
I have also been working on a big pile of inherited ammo in both cartridges, so good fun and practice until it's shot up.

. Thanks Pete! Miss you, man.

Tuhlmann · September 30, 2018, 20:38

Autos are for the masses. Revolvers are for the classes.

Bawana jim · September 30, 2018, 21:51

^^^^^

Wildcat · October 01, 2018, 18:21

There are fewer people playing with wheelguns in general. At the local matches, the number of participants using a revolver can be counted on the fingers of one hand while there are 70+ shooting autos.

I also suspect that most of the people who do shoot a revolver are feeding it reloaded ammo.

I shoot one almost every week. Once in a while I find signs that another revolver shooter has visited the range.

meltblown · October 01, 2018, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

^^^^^

Well if John Moses Browning started a trend

Thou shalt love auto loaders

Bawana jim · October 01, 2018, 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltblown

Well if John Moses Browning started a trend

Thou shalt love auto loaders

I have two hands so a 1911 and a K38 work in either.

Nomad, 2nd · October 02, 2018, 02:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

Thinking ahead if they don't carry much 38 or 357 it's going to get expensive
p.

"Get"?

Bingo on "reloading"

TenTea · October 02, 2018, 05:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomad, 2nd

"Get"?

Bingo on "reloading"

My cost per round for .38/.357 with home cast bullets is ~8 cents, so $4 per box of 50 and it's accurate ammo on target!

Bawana jim · October 02, 2018, 06:39

I shoot hbwc in my 38s and use about 3 grains of 231 so I get about 2,300 loaded rounds to a pound of powder. Shoots very straight and mild recoil. I keep a lead stockpile but not many jacketed bullets on hand. My concern is that with fewer people shooting that caliber the companies won't make bullets for them to reload.

Casting may be in my future.

Elwarpo · October 02, 2018, 09:11

I also think of it as cost for non reloaders. 9mm can be had for under $10 a box online and local range sells it for about $13 a box. Try to find 357 for under $20 a box. The only difference between 38 and 357 is a bit of powder and a bit more brass in the case, yet the ammo companies charge a hefty premium, and this pushes shooters away. The same can be said for 357 sig versus 40, look how few people shoot 357 sig. At the end of the day people will shoot the gun that will cost the lowest... 9mm, 5.56 and 7.62x39.

Wildcat · October 02, 2018, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

My concern is that with fewer people shooting that caliber the companies won't make bullets for them to reload.

We are already going down that road. Zero Bullets used to make a great 150gr jacketed bullet for 38-super that was also very good for 38s. During the big "O" ammunition panic they focused on meeting the increased demand for 9mm.
The 150gr FMJ is gone.
They still have 125gr JHPs and 158gr JSPs.
People who shot that bullet reluctantly switched to a 140gr bullet from Montana Gold which is conical. It works but not as well.

Bawana jim · October 02, 2018, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat

We are already going down that road. Zero Bullets used to make a great 150gr jacketed bullet for 38-super that was also very good for 38s. During the big "O" ammunition panic they focused on meeting the increased demand for 9mm.
The 150gr FMJ is gone.
They still have 125gr JHPs and 158gr JSPs.
People who shot that bullet reluctantly switched to a 140gr bullet from Montana Gold which is conical. It works but not as well.

I wonder how long before it's a challenge to buy jacketed 357 bullets? From what I see the gun stores have a huge investment in ammo on the shelves so it's just a matter of time before they only carry their best sellers. I went into one of our bigger stores and 45 colt was $44 a box and they only had one box. They had two boxes of 44 mag but again the price is so high folks rarely buy it.

Guns stores in my opinion buy in bulk to get a better deal but even in bulk the price of ammo is really high. What does the future bring is the real question?

Wildcat · October 02, 2018, 20:59

Well there is quite a cottage industry of casting bullets to supply people who shoot cowboy guns. The larger companies also offer swaged bullets.

For real magnum loads, a gas check or a jacketed bullet is needed and I expect they will remain available, although cost will increase. There are a host of unusual rifle calibers that stores keep one or two boxes for sale. I hope it won't be that bad.
Since the police pretty much quit using 357s I'd imagine that it doesn't rate too highly when scheduling machine time to make ammunition.

There are foreign suppliers of loaded ammo too, but those brands are not common in a brick & mortar market.

Look at who still makes the 357 Mag ammunition today:
Fiocchi
Sellier & Bellot
PMC
Privi
Magtech
Speer
Remington
Federal
Hornady
Winchester
Black Hills
Geco
CCI

I don't think I had half of those choices when I started shooting the caliber. Many of them offer several flavors.

If you want to prevent the cartridge from becoming obsolescent, encourage more people to shoot wheelguns.

Bawana jim · October 02, 2018, 21:14

One point I want to make and it's just a bad dream but Kali has a lic and background check to buy ammo. They say what happens in Kali is what the nation will do so how will a law like that affect the LGS and what they have on the shelves? I hate to be caught by suprise and have been in the past so I look ahead now.

Nomad, 2nd · October 02, 2018, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenTea

My cost per round for .38/.357 with home cast bullets is ~8 cents, so $4 per box of 50 and it's accurate ammo on target!

I can come in about $0.06.

But my point was the current retail price of .38's.

TenTea · October 03, 2018, 06:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat

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If you want to prevent the cartridge from becoming obsolescent, encourage more people to shoot wheelguns.

Or Coonans.

TenTea · October 03, 2018, 06:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomad, 2nd

I can come in about $0.06.

But my point was the current retail price of .38's.

Apparently, at least 23 cents.

https://www.sgammo.com/product/38-sp...partizan-ppr33

justashooter · October 03, 2018, 16:24

decent revolvers cost 4-5 times as much as mass produced striker fired auto crap like glocks and springfield XD.

nvcdl · October 04, 2018, 15:31

There are some good deals on bulk 38 & 357 Remington ammo online.

I stocked up on the Golden Sabre 125gr 357 - good medium velocity load that doesn't eat up the forcing cone.

http://ammunitionstore.com/categorie...57-magnum.html

**W.E.G.** · October 04, 2018, 16:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by meltblown

Had a Ruger Super Blackhawk 40 years ago. Sold it and never had another revolver.

I'm keeping my .357 five-screw Blackhawk for my own nostalgic satisfaction.

I pull it out of the safe and clicketa-click-click it from time to time.

Then I go scowl at my Glocks.

Bawana jim · October 04, 2018, 17:26

Too bad somebody doesn't make 9mm cylinders for all the Smiths & Colt 38s and 357.

TenTea · October 04, 2018, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

Too bad somebody doesn't make 9mm cylinders for all the Smiths & Colt 38s and 357.

Ruger Convertible, but I get your drift...

Uriah Lee · October 05, 2018, 19:28

If Smith & Wesson ever decides to offer a light weight J-frame in 9mm, then take my money! I'll buy one of those in a heartbeat. 9mm would offer plenty of power in that little gun. Way more than .38 special loads, and yet more manageable than 125 .357 loads. (no "flash bang" effect when fired in confined spaces).

First gun was a model 60 Smith. Then a model 19. And then a custom shop 4" Python. Did a lot of wheel weights, gas checks, Bullseye, and Unique back then. In more recent times my carry was a 642, but I let that one get away too. Only revolver left is a four inch Rhino. Damn, that thing is ugly, but it shots like a demon.

After dabbling in building 1911s for years, the wheel guns ended up in the back of the safe and I did cave in to the dark side. Now with Colt coming back into the revolver market, I begin to look back at those early times with much fondness and wonder if they might ever re-introduce the Python once again.

Timber Wolf · October 05, 2018, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.E.G.

Then I go scowl at my Glocks.

I scowl at my Glocks too. But as hard as I try to prevent it somehow they know I don't really mean it.

Last gun I bought was a wheelie, a(nother) big, bad, beautiful Stainless Ruger Old Army. Much smoke and fire, oh yeah.

The one before that was a Glock 19 though. Before that was a like new .54 TC Renegade. Yep, I gets around a bit in this gun hobby.

Bawana jim · October 05, 2018, 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uriah Lee

If Smith & Wesson ever decides to offer a light weight J-frame in 9mm, then take my money! I'll buy one of those in a heartbeat. 9mm would offer plenty of power in that little gun. Way more than .38 special loads, and yet more manageable than 125 .357 loads. (no "flash bang" effect when fired in confined spaces).

First gun was a model 60 Smith. Then a model 19. And then a custom shop 4" Python. Did a lot of wheel weights, gas checks, Bullseye, and Unique back then. In more recent times my carry was a 642, but I let that one get away too. Only revolver left is a four inch Rhino. Damn, that thing is ugly, but it shots like a demon.

After dabbling in building 1911s for years, the wheel guns ended up in the back of the safe and I did cave in to the dark side. Now with Colt coming back into the revolver market, I begin to look back at those early times with much fondness and wonder if they might ever re-introduce the Python once again.

Smith made a 9mm snubie in stainless and I had one for a while. Used moon clips and mine shot fairly straight.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/787727404

**John Crusher** · October 05, 2018, 22:02

I have a S&W 686-6 that I bought new 21/2 years ago. It is my 1st revolver and I like it so much I shoot it once or twice a week. I have had a .357 Coonan and still have my old Desert Eagle and wanted to go back to where it started from and got my Smith. I save all my brass and just got a couple of cases of .357 and .38 Special and am currently shopping for really good dies and bullets for my Dillon. I've been studying reload data and when the weather turns, I'll fire up the Dillon and crank out a bunch. Been looking at the RIA auction for another wheel gun too !

Uriah Lee · October 06, 2018, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

Smith made a 9mm snubie in stainless and I had one for a while. Used moon clips and mine shot fairly straight.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/787727404

The one I'm really lusting for is on the order of the scandium lightweight. Ruger and Taurus have a couple out right now, but they don't capture my interest. I'm trying to keep the weight down so that my pants don't droop when doing pocket carry. I have an athletic build (SUMO) and a heavier piece might cause saggy ass and get me pegged as a gang banger. Can't have that.

TenTea · October 06, 2018, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uriah Lee

The one I'm really lusting for is on the order of the scandium lightweight. Ruger and Taurus have a couple out right now, but they don't capture my interest. I'm trying to keep the weight down so that my pants don't droop when doing pocket carry. I have an athletic build (SUMO) and a heavier piece might cause saggy ass and get me pegged as a gang banger. Can't have that.

I read your post to wifey and she lol'd hard!

Nomad, 2nd · October 06, 2018, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

Smith made a 9mm snubie in stainless and I had one for a while. Used moon clips and mine shot fairly straight.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/787727404

Mine in TSW will also shoot 9mms (that's why I got it)

I need to get more moon clips

Bawana jim · October 06, 2018, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nomad, 2nd

Mine in TSW will also shoot 9mms (that's why I got it)

I need to get more moon clips

Some time ago I was talking to the guy that makes the moon clips for Smith, he is Ranch Products. Can't remember his name but he sold me on stocking his moon clips when I was doing the gun shows. I don't do the shows anymore but may have what you need. Are they five shot or six shot?

Uriah Lee · October 07, 2018, 10:12

Some folks don't like the use of moon clips. Used them with the S&W 610 and they were every bit as handy as speed loaders. The pistol could be loaded and shot without the clips, but then extraction becomes problematic. Nobody likes snagging a nail plucking out hot cases.

Jarhead504 · October 08, 2018, 17:15

I love revolvers. No serious practical shooter (or prepper) worth the salt the throws on his food would be missing a revolver in his armory. To shooters, a 4" .357 magnum is about as standard to shoot as noses on people's faces.

Brother Bawana Jim, thanks for the heads up on the future of the 38 and 357 components. I'll start looking for more 125 and 158 semi-jacketed hollow points to lay aside.
Jarhead

Nomad, 2nd · October 08, 2018, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

Some time ago I was talking to the guy that makes the moon clips for Smith, he is Ranch Products. Can't remember his name but he sold me on stocking his moon clips when I was doing the gun shows. I don't do the shows anymore but may have what you need. Are they five shot or six shot?

5

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TenTea · October 09, 2018, 07:06

These shots were taken after a several years long cure for Smithitis had been administered.
The cure continued on for a short while longer, until 3 remained...
I'm cured!

I've posted these before but they are nice to look at.

SWs_L_small.jpg

SWs_R_small.jpg

Raggedwhole! · October 09, 2018, 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenTea

I have suffered from Smithitus at times and favor 1950's guns and N frames.
I only own a few now, but still really enjoy them...fired 50 rounds through one yesterday, as a matter of fact.

Horrible disease. Probably just as bad as my Coltitus.

My LGS has .38 & .357. Factory ammo and projectiles but will only sell to good customers, locals. That is one benefit internet shopping cannot offer. Couple dollars more but it is always there. He is a gent too so what does a couple bucks matter?

Raggedwhole! · October 09, 2018, 07:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenTea

These shots were taken after a several years long cure for Smithitis had been administered.
The cure continued on for a short while longer, until 3 remained...
I'm cured!

I've posted these before but they are nice to look at.

Attachment 89322

Attachment 89323

Oh yeah. You have a pretty bad case of it......

TenTea · October 09, 2018, 07:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raggedwhole!

Oh yeah. You have a pretty bad case of it......

I've had small fits of Coltitus, as well.

Got cured of that, too! Well, mostly... 1 of these are left.

coltitus_small.jpg

Raggedwhole! · October 09, 2018, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by TenTea

I've had small fits of Coltitus, as well.

Got cured of that, too! Well, mostly... 1 of these are left.

Attachment 89324

Wow. Dual diagnosis! I thought I was suffering.

PM me. I am a little funny about sharing my disease on the web.

Bawana jim · October 09, 2018, 10:10

Never mind

Fleabus · October 27, 2018, 18:25

Last recent had to have..
Model 24-3 3 inch 44 special..
Just put on set of Grasshorn
elk RB grips..
The white bone on the bluing looks
classic.

September 30, 2018, 11:36	#1
Bawana jim Registered FALaholic #: 17482 Join Date: May 2005 Location: west coast Posts: 20,989	Reading that Some stores are not carrying 357 and 38 ammo anymore because it doesn't sell well. Might want to check what your store is doing. Looking at grafs for jacketed bullets it seems there is a shortage of some Speer bullets.

September 30, 2018, 14:32	#2
TenTea Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 72247 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Wisco Posts: 5,013	I'm incredulous, but at the same time realize revolvers are not the bread and butter of gunmakers anymore. Bullseye is not so popular either and long barrels are out of vouge. Isn't a .38/.357 ubiquitous in everyone's firearm accoomalation? I would list them by handgun popularity as: .22LR 9mm .45 Auto .38/.357 .44 Mag .45 Colt ...and on down the line. Maybe nobody shoots them anymore, so no need of ammo? __________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. Carlos Castenada

September 30, 2018, 15:47	#7
TenTea Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 72247 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Wisco Posts: 5,013	I know a guy (a little green) who thinks a snub is only good as a belly gun. Well, I have some news for him and I'm willing to prove it! HAHA! __________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. Carlos Castenada

September 30, 2018, 19:38	#11
TenTea Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 72247 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Wisco Posts: 5,013	I cast wadcutters for .38 and semiwadcutters for .357 and I have more than a 5 gallon bucket full of brass for each, along with gobs of lead alloy and powder, so no worries here. I have also been working on a big pile of inherited ammo in both cartridges, so good fun and practice until it's shot up. . Thanks Pete! Miss you, man. __________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. Carlos Castenada

September 30, 2018, 20:38	#12
Tuhlmann THAT guy Contributor FALaholic #: 69411 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Here & There, WI Posts: 2,377	Autos are for the masses. Revolvers are for the classes. __________________ Future Crotchety Ol' Bastard “I’m saying: Think about your contribution to society. Be careful when you get into a business that extracts value. Broaden your idea about what’s enough. And for God’s sake, think about who you are.” - J. Bogle

September 30, 2018, 15:31	#6
Bawana jim Registered FALaholic #: 17482 Join Date: May 2005 Location: west coast Posts: 20,989	It's really funny watching the young guys at the gun club trying to shoot revolvers. Guy was shooting at the 6 inch steel from the bench rest with an L frame Smith and could only hit one out of six. The look on his face when I used the K38 to knock down 6 out of six double action while standing up was priceless. 15 yards is child's play

September 30, 2018, 17:40	#8
Bawana jim Registered FALaholic #: 17482 Join Date: May 2005 Location: west coast Posts: 20,989	I went to my local gun store to check my own bs. Bimart usually carries a good selection of reloading bullets in 38 cal. Today they had one box of 125 and one box of 158 grain bullets. So I went to Sportsmans Wear house and couldn't find hardly any Speer bullets, no gold dots to be found. Looks like online for me if I am going to buy bullets.

September 30, 2018, 21:51	#13
Bawana jim Registered FALaholic #: 17482 Join Date: May 2005 Location: west coast Posts: 20,989	^^^^^

October 01, 2018, 18:21	#14
Wildcat Registered FALaholic #: 6517 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,016	There are fewer people playing with wheelguns in general. At the local matches, the number of participants using a revolver can be counted on the fingers of one hand while there are 70+ shooting autos. I also suspect that most of the people who do shoot a revolver are feeding it reloaded ammo. I shoot one almost every week. Once in a while I find signs that another revolver shooter has visited the range. __________________ "A cool man with a rifle, if he has mastered his weapon, need fear no foe." - Theodore Roosevelt

October 02, 2018, 06:39	#19
Bawana jim Registered FALaholic #: 17482 Join Date: May 2005 Location: west coast Posts: 20,989	I shoot hbwc in my 38s and use about 3 grains of 231 so I get about 2,300 loaded rounds to a pound of powder. Shoots very straight and mild recoil. I keep a lead stockpile but not many jacketed bullets on hand. My concern is that with fewer people shooting that caliber the companies won't make bullets for them to reload. Casting may be in my future.

October 02, 2018, 09:11	#20
Elwarpo Registered FALaholic #: 38498 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SE MI Posts: 1,105	I also think of it as cost for non reloaders. 9mm can be had for under $10 a box online and local range sells it for about $13 a box. Try to find 357 for under $20 a box. The only difference between 38 and 357 is a bit of powder and a bit more brass in the case, yet the ammo companies charge a hefty premium, and this pushes shooters away. The same can be said for 357 sig versus 40, look how few people shoot 357 sig. At the end of the day people will shoot the gun that will cost the lowest... 9mm, 5.56 and 7.62x39. __________________ <-- My C1A1 and I while serving. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” Edmund Burke

October 02, 2018, 20:59	#23
Wildcat Registered FALaholic #: 6517 Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,016	Well there is quite a cottage industry of casting bullets to supply people who shoot cowboy guns. The larger companies also offer swaged bullets. For real magnum loads, a gas check or a jacketed bullet is needed and I expect they will remain available, although cost will increase. There are a host of unusual rifle calibers that stores keep one or two boxes for sale. I hope it won't be that bad. Since the police pretty much quit using 357s I'd imagine that it doesn't rate too highly when scheduling machine time to make ammunition. There are foreign suppliers of loaded ammo too, but those brands are not common in a brick & mortar market. Look at who still makes the 357 Mag ammunition today: Fiocchi Sellier & Bellot PMC Privi Magtech Speer Remington Federal Hornady Winchester Black Hills Geco CCI I don't think I had half of those choices when I started shooting the caliber. Many of them offer several flavors. If you want to prevent the cartridge from becoming obsolescent, encourage more people to shoot wheelguns. __________________ "A cool man with a rifle, if he has mastered his weapon, need fear no foe." - Theodore Roosevelt

October 02, 2018, 21:14	#24
Bawana jim Registered FALaholic #: 17482 Join Date: May 2005 Location: west coast Posts: 20,989	One point I want to make and it's just a bad dream but Kali has a lic and background check to buy ammo. They say what happens in Kali is what the nation will do so how will a law like that affect the LGS and what they have on the shelves? I hate to be caught by suprise and have been in the past so I look ahead now.

October 03, 2018, 16:24	#28
justashooter Registered FALaholic #: 5967 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: york, pa. Posts: 8,990	decent revolvers cost 4-5 times as much as mass produced striker fired auto crap like glocks and springfield XD. __________________ If the concept of heading on down to the local Home Depot and transforming $100 worth of random pipe bits into a killing machine doesn’t appeal to you, you’re a frikkin' pansy. Also, you’re probably sane and will live significantly longer than I will. Nonetheless you disgust me, and I take comfort in the knowledge that your obituary will be nowhere near as humorous as mine. The next time I hear "THE RANGE IS NOW HOT", it just wont be the same. Max tried another question. "What sort of people live about here?" "In THAT direction," the Jin said, waving its right paw round, "lives a Han: And in THAT direction," waving the other paw, "lives a Ming Hare. Visit either you like: they're both mad." "But I don't want to go among mad people," Max remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Jin: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Max. "You must be," said the Jin, "or you wouldn't have come here."

October 04, 2018, 15:31	#29
nvcdl Registered FALaholic #: 1312 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,580	There are some good deals on bulk 38 & 357 Remington ammo online. I stocked up on the Golden Sabre 125gr 357 - good medium velocity load that doesn't eat up the forcing cone. http://ammunitionstore.com/categorie...57-magnum.html

October 04, 2018, 17:26	#31
Bawana jim Registered FALaholic #: 17482 Join Date: May 2005 Location: west coast Posts: 20,989	Too bad somebody doesn't make 9mm cylinders for all the Smiths & Colt 38s and 357.

October 05, 2018, 19:28	#33
Uriah Lee Registered FALaholic #: 81151 Join Date: May 2018 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 467	If Smith & Wesson ever decides to offer a light weight J-frame in 9mm, then take my money! I'll buy one of those in a heartbeat. 9mm would offer plenty of power in that little gun. Way more than .38 special loads, and yet more manageable than 125 .357 loads. (no "flash bang" effect when fired in confined spaces). First gun was a model 60 Smith. Then a model 19. And then a custom shop 4" Python. Did a lot of wheel weights, gas checks, Bullseye, and Unique back then. In more recent times my carry was a 642, but I let that one get away too. Only revolver left is a four inch Rhino. Damn, that thing is ugly, but it shots like a demon. After dabbling in building 1911s for years, the wheel guns ended up in the back of the safe and I did cave in to the dark side. Now with Colt coming back into the revolver market, I begin to look back at those early times with much fondness and wonder if they might ever re-introduce the Python once again.

October 05, 2018, 22:02	#36
John Crusher Veteran Member Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 18663 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,822	I have a S&W 686-6 that I bought new 21/2 years ago. It is my 1st revolver and I like it so much I shoot it once or twice a week. I have had a .357 Coonan and still have my old Desert Eagle and wanted to go back to where it started from and got my Smith. I save all my brass and just got a couple of cases of .357 and .38 Special and am currently shopping for really good dies and bullets for my Dillon. I've been studying reload data and when the weather turns, I'll fire up the Dillon and crank out a bunch. Been looking at the RIA auction for another wheel gun too ! __________________ Vigilance in Living Counteracts Stupidity in Dying.

October 07, 2018, 10:12	#41
Uriah Lee Registered FALaholic #: 81151 Join Date: May 2018 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 467	Some folks don't like the use of moon clips. Used them with the S&W 610 and they were every bit as handy as speed loaders. The pistol could be loaded and shot without the clips, but then extraction becomes problematic. Nobody likes snagging a nail plucking out hot cases.

October 08, 2018, 17:15	#42
Jarhead504 Registered FALaholic #: 65022 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Orleans Area,LA Posts: 3,767	I love revolvers. No serious practical shooter (or prepper) worth the salt the throws on his food would be missing a revolver in his armory. To shooters, a 4" .357 magnum is about as standard to shoot as noses on people's faces. Brother Bawana Jim, thanks for the heads up on the future of the 38 and 357 components. I'll start looking for more 125 and 158 semi-jacketed hollow points to lay aside. Jarhead Last edited by Jarhead504; October 08, 2018 at 17:22.

October 09, 2018, 07:06	#44
TenTea Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 72247 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Wisco Posts: 5,013	These shots were taken after a several years long cure for Smithitis had been administered. The cure continued on for a short while longer, until 3 remained... I'm cured! I've posted these before but they are nice to look at. SWs_L_small.jpg SWs_R_small.jpg __________________ The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves happy. The amount of work is the same. Carlos Castenada

October 09, 2018, 10:10	#49
Bawana jim Registered FALaholic #: 17482 Join Date: May 2005 Location: west coast Posts: 20,989	Never mind Last edited by Bawana jim; October 10, 2018 at 10:13.

October 27, 2018, 18:25	#50
Fleabus Registered FALaholic #: 10700 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 681	N frame Smiths Last recent had to have.. Model 24-3 3 inch 44 special.. Just put on set of Grasshorn elk RB grips.. The white bone on the bluing looks classic.

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