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Old April 14, 2019, 18:44   #1
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Fentenyl laced Pot

https://hightimes.com/news/upper-new...yl-laced-weed/

Take it from "High Times", as gospel

Someone is trying to kill off Americans as fast as possible.
Heroin laced with Fentenyl is killing plenty, as we know.

Now the same murderous crews, in Mexico, are lacing marijuana with chinese Fentenyl.

I think the Chinese may be paying a premium to the cartels to do this, as killing off Americans behind the scenes, is just good business for China, or maybe the muslims.
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Old April 14, 2019, 18:59   #2
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, as killing off Americans behind the scenes, is just good business for China, or maybe the muslims.
How can that be? Killing Americans only means fewer folks to buy their Chinese products. Counter-productive? I'd think they would like to see even more customers for their cheap shit...
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It is a cumulative killing; less to fight, and the rest will be high.

It seems that the supply of addicts is unlimited.
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Old April 14, 2019, 19:04   #4
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How can that be? Killing Americans only means fewer folks to buy their Chinese products. Counter-productive? I'd think they would like to see even more customers for their cheap shit...
Now that you mention it guess this song makes sense now.

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Take it from "High Times", as gospel

Someone is trying to kill off Americans as fast as possible.
Heroin laced with Fentenyl is killing plenty, as we know.

Now the same murderous crews, in Mexico, are lacing marijuana with chinese Fentenyl.

I think the Chinese may be paying a premium to the cartels to do this, as killing off Americans behind the scenes, is just good business for China, or maybe the muslims.
I think this is probably bs. It says it might be in the article. I don't think you can smoke fentenyl. I might be wrong.
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Vee, if you decide to try some, just stay clear of Watkins Glen, okay?
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It does make you wonder why there is a big push by democrat folks running for Potus to get pot legal everywhere. This will sound dumb but I don't care. Movie called Sicaro deals with the drug problem on the border and at one point someone said " until we can find a way to deal with our 20% of our population that does drugs we will never be able to stop the drugs".

Fentanyl kills drug users, in the last two years it's said to have killed 130,000 Americans. Maybe that's just the warm up shot.
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It does make you wonder why there is a big push by democrat folks running for Potus to get pot legal everywhere. This will sound dumb but I don't care. Movie called Sicaro deals with the drug problem on the border and at one point someone said " until we can find a way to deal with our 20% of our population that does drugs we will never be able to stop the drugs".

Fentanyl kills drug users, in the last two years it's said to have killed 130,000 Americans. Maybe that's just the warm up shot.
Broad brush there. SSRIs, legal pharma like estrogen inhibitors, legal meth for kids, and who knows , blah blah.
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FWIW, I had a bit of legally prescribed Fentanyl for my cataract surgeries as an "anti anxiety" drug. Really good stuff. I would have let the eye surgeon do whatever he wanted to do. And it was fast acting stuff too.

And no I'm not a user now.
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...as long as they don't start putting that shit in my coffee....
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I think this is probably bs. It says it might be in the article. I don't think you can smoke fentenyl. I might be wrong.
I don't know about Fentenyl but most other narcotics can and are often smoked, I would think that Fentenyl is no exception.
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The NYS Police, released the facts on fentanyl laced heroin.
They are not in the business of hoaxes.

It is small right now, but growing as the cartels lace pot with it.

It will probably kill you, due to the odds of getting the bad stuff now, is growing each day, unless your grow it yourself.
Some assholes will mix it into brownies, soon enough.

You can smoke crack, heroin, cocaine and certainly you can smoke fentanyl laced anything, and ingest it in foods stuffs.


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1) Sources say fentanyl can ibdeedbe smoked.
2) If you choose the believe Snopes over High Times ( I do ! ), the Times article is bogus.
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https://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-...hxe-story.html

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well, they will need to have a fire sale (pun intended) and cut prices by 50% to unload inventory

best start digging lots of graves too
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I just wonder the what the incentive is for the dealers to do this is?

Would they let the customer know it was laced and charge more for it?

Is it just to screw with users? Seems like a bad business move to me to add an extra cost to your product and kill your customers at the same time.

Someone screwing with a black market product to make it more dangerous so the state can step in and control the market with a sanctioned and inspected product?

Someone trying to get rid of a competing dealer?

I am not surprised this is happening (I do remember the stories PCP laced weed of years ago) I just don't see why?
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I just wonder the what the incentive is for the dealers to do this is?

Would they let the customer know it was laced and charge more for it?

Is it just to screw with users? Seems like a bad business move to me to add an extra cost to your product and kill your customers at the same time.

Someone screwing with a black market product to make it more dangerous so the state can step in and control the market with a sanctioned and inspected product?

Someone trying to get rid of a competing dealer?

I am not surprised this is happening (I do remember the stories PCP laced weed of years ago) I just don't see why?
Would very small amounts of it make the product more addictive? What better way to insure future customers. Cigarette makers did it.
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I just wonder the what the incentive is for the dealers to do this is?

Would they let the customer know it was laced and charge more for it?

Is it just to screw with users? Seems like a bad business move to me to add an extra cost to your product and kill your customers at the same time.

Someone screwing with a black market product to make it more dangerous so the state can step in and control the market with a sanctioned and inspected product?

Someone trying to get rid of a competing dealer?

I am not surprised this is happening (I do remember the stories PCP laced weed of years ago) I just don't see why?
Those are all good questions Brother medicmike, especially question # 4. I don't think a dope dealer would willing sell pot laced with fentanyl. It would be too risky. Down here, if a dealer were to sell some shit that killed you all to death and word got out who sold what to whom, the kin folks and friends of the "victim(s)" would put that dealer out of business very quickly. As it is now, a DJ on local radio stated,New Orleans East is like "No Country For Old Men". Fentanyl added to the mix will make things worser.

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I just wonder the what the incentive is for the dealers to do this is?

Would they let the customer know it was laced and charge more for it?

Is it just to screw with users? Seems like a bad business move to me to add an extra cost to your product and kill your customers at the same time.

Someone screwing with a black market product to make it more dangerous so the state can step in and control the market with a sanctioned and inspected product?

Someone trying to get rid of a competing dealer?

I am not surprised this is happening (I do remember the stories PCP laced weed of years ago) I just don't see why?
Well some thoughts on all this Mike:

1st of all this isn't being done to Marijuana. It's being done to other things to create fake weed. Think of it like that "Spice" garbage. That's just plant matter dosed with Chinese synthetic Cannabinoids. It's a dirt cheap way to make something out of nothing.

Same deal with the dusted weed back in the day. That wasn't usually MJ based. Any even shitty real weed had a market value, practically no one wanted dusted shit.

Law Enforcement hyped this situation up to scare people, it actually wasn't happening very often in reality.

So who is doing this ?
back in the day it was two groups
Inner City Blacks & some outlaw Biker Gangs
kid I knew got dusted bad, he had bought a bag of joints from some Black dude in St. Paul around 82'...he woke up in an ER half crazy. Guy was never exactly right in the head again.

Blacks were adding PCP to Cocaine and Heroin too
Big nasty mess
This has always been a serious problem in the doper community

Up here it's bad on reservations, ODs are dead common. Bunch of dead younger folks in the Red River Valley as well.
What we are seeing though is the traffic is coming out of Chicago and the Twin Cities. It's not Mexicans, nearly everyone getting busted dealing Fentenyl are Urban Blacks.
The Mexicans get nailed for Meth

Been a number of busts over Fentenyl regionally but outside Blacks it's been folks buying it online and having it shipped in from China either direct or transshipped through Canada.
Just saying it's not really Mexico. It's flowing in from every direction. origin point China.
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