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Old April 13, 2019, 13:55   #1
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Evolving world

I don't buy into all the global warming issues and the sky is falling from the left but the earth does change. However, this book does provide some food for thought. I especially worry about food supplies and new biological issues.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...change-817310/
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Old April 13, 2019, 18:14   #2
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Rolling Stone? Give me a break. Might as well be from the " Communist Worker".
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Old April 13, 2019, 19:19   #3
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J will finally quit bellyachin then, errbody will be skinny.
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Old April 13, 2019, 23:32   #4
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Well,the first thing the article shows is an absolute lie.
See the photo.
"Stubs of corn chopped down because of heat and lack of rain in Nebraska, 2012. "In the human game, the single most important question is probably 'What’s for dinner?' writes McKibben. "And when the answer is 'Not much,' things deteriorate fast." "

Yes,corn is chopped,but not down. That corn was cut and chopped into a silage feed. Note there is no part of the stalk left on the ground,just the cut stalk and roots. Perfectly normal farming practice. The rest is in a bunk somewhere fermenting into cattle feed.

We may very well face food production problems,but not from a warming climate. A cooling one. We are due,over-due in fact.
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Old June 06, 2019, 06:31   #5
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LOS ANGELES - Climate change is reaching the “end-game” and could pose an existential threat by 2050, according to a new policy paper, which outlined an urgent “hothouse Earth” scenario that could be prevented with a “World War II emergency mobilization.”

“Existential climate-related security risk: A scenario approach” is the paper published by Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration, an independent think tank focused on climate policy located in Melbourne, Australia.
https://www.fox29.com/news/climate-c...50-report-says

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Old June 06, 2019, 08:51   #6
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In the U.S. we export roughly 50% of the grain we grow here to locations around the world.

We're not likely to starve to death anytime soon.
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Old June 06, 2019, 10:20   #7
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WWII Emergency mobilization?


So to save us all we have to invade France?
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Old June 06, 2019, 11:41   #8
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* I worry more about the insecticides that are killing all of the bees and bugs and giving everyone cancer. Farmers have been using it for decades. Not only is this years crops obviously affected, prolonged use has also contaminated the farmlands where they are grown.

Then, all of the additives added. Don't forget about all of the hormones in most all meat that you buy in the store.

That worries me more than a slight rise or lower in the average temperature.
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Old June 06, 2019, 12:50   #9
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Mary Alice got cancer just like everybody here
Seems everyone I know is gettin' cancer every year
And we can't afford no insurance, I been 10 years unemployed
So she didn't get no chemo so our lives was destroyed
And nothin' ever changes, the cemetery gets more full
And now over there in Huntsville, even NASA's shut down too

Another Joker in the White House, said a change was comin' round
But I'm still workin' at The Wal Mart and Mary Alice, in the ground
And all them politicians, they all lyin' sacks of shit
They say better days upon us but I'm sucking left hind tit
And the preacher on the TV says it ain't too late for me
But I bet he drives a Cadillac and I'm broke with some hungry mouths to feed

I wish I'z still an outlaw, was a better way of life
I could clothe and feed my family still have time to love my pretty wife
And if you say I'm being punished. Ain't he got better things to do?
Turnin' mountains into oceans Puttin' people on the moon
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Old June 06, 2019, 13:57   #10
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Is it even possible for human civilization to be 'sustainable'?

Or must it be ever expanding and consuming to survive?

Has there ever been a time or example when human civilization was in equilibrium with our habitat?
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Old June 06, 2019, 16:00   #11
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Is it even possible for human civilization to be 'sustainable'?

Or must it be ever expanding and consuming to survive?

Has there ever been a time or example when human civilization was in equilibrium with our habitat?
Yes. Before the advent of agriculture and permanent(?) settlements.
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There's always the moon and Mars. And in the sea.
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Old June 08, 2019, 22:41   #13
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Yes. Before the advent of agriculture and permanent(?) settlements.
I wouldn't call stone age nomads 'civilization'.
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