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Old January 24, 2018, 13:27   #1
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DSA paratrooper lower, quality?

Hey guys,

I finally got the scratch together for a paratrooper lower and was wondering if there have been any quality issues with the DSA paratrooper lowers?
I can hand fit to an extent but dont want to have to entirely re-work something that costs $400. I am planning on getting the para carrier from sarco

Kit i'm looking at: https://www.dsarms.com/p-12747-fal-s...ara-sight.aspx
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Old January 24, 2018, 15:03   #2
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Bro thats the whole para kit for 400 clams,,,no need to buy another carrier or anything else..

I have 3 sets of those dsa para kits built and havent had an issue with anything yet,,,but the newest one is probably 5yrs old now, so some newer input might be better considered...
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Old January 24, 2018, 15:27   #3
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They are ok, but do not expect that parts from a real para will fit. No dustcovers etc, as the DSA lower does not have the para groove, or whatever you want to call it. And you will have to cut your receiver, as none of the short nose dustcovers will fit as is.
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Old January 24, 2018, 15:30   #4
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They do fine. They used to cost $500
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Old January 24, 2018, 15:48   #5
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Ive never used one of the no-nose top covers, so cant comment there.
In fact I most always cut the nose counterbore on all my builds, para or not, just because i might want to switch things up down the road,,,and I have one in the tool box..

What real para parts wont fit a dsa ?
Ive not noticed anything different between 3 dsa or 2 imbel para's ive got,,,besides dsa not having the redundant stock safety latch I dont like anyway...

What is this para groove thing ?
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Old January 25, 2018, 06:50   #6
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Para groove thing Para groove thing, yeah yeah.
Show us all about it now...
Para groove thing Para groove thing, yeah yeah.
Tell us all about it now...

Dont mind me,,Im having disco flash backs,,,lol..
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ETA: I suppose it is poor form to post a disco video in the gunsmithing forum and for that I am truly not sorry...vinny started it. HAHA!
I'll attempt to behave in here from now on, although I may deserve a tongue lashing or a reprimand.

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Para groove thing Para groove thing, yeah yeah.
Show us all about it now...
Para groove thing Para groove thing, yeah yeah.
Tell us all about it now...

Dont mind me,,Im having disco flash backs,,,lol..
Hey, if you are gonna have it, have it right...right on brother.

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Old January 25, 2018, 08:46   #8
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yo,yo,yo,yo,yovinny, GO !
Disco inferno, baby

Back to the matter at hand. I've used the DSA para lowers and/or various parts and unlike some other DSA stuff, the lowers were all fine. I agree about doing the receiver nose cut. Wish I could find another piloted cutter, as I have one that I might want to convert to a para. Seem to have lent out the cutter or otherwise disappeared it !
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With the exception of the recent one noted here on the Files, with obvious and non-repairable machining defects, my experience with DSA para lowers has been excellent.

Their bolt carriers often won't fit in their own receivers, let alone a factory correct receiver, but fortunately some filing and sanding will get them to work. I just plan on needing to fit the carrier when I get one in, And put it in the mill to true the sides
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Old January 25, 2018, 12:18   #10
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Sweet. Is it possible to fit the no-nose top cover to the receiver without modifying it?
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Old January 25, 2018, 12:31   #11
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Sweet. Is it possible to fit the no-nose top cover to the receiver without modifying it?
That’s why it doesn’t have a nose. I trim the lip on the end of the cover so you can just slide the cover over the bolt with ease
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Old January 25, 2018, 14:18   #12
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Thanks 10/10,,,

But 1978 ??
Omg that makes me feel old
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I've been running a no-nose para cover for about 18 years. I have had NO problems with it being a no-nose cover.

In fact, I bought another cover with the nose, and I had planned on replacing the no-nose cover. I even have a cutter I made many years ago to cut the counterbore into the receiver to accept the nose, and seeing how I've had no issues with my para over the years I decided to just sell the para cover with the nose.

Maybe I should get my FFL again and offer receiver cutting business. At least that tool would get some use.
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Old March 06, 2018, 00:52   #14
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got the kit in. Lower goes together without issue and functions no problem.
I have a coonan reciever and the carrier, and top cover without issue.
The DSA para bolt carrier had some small burr's on the rear portion of the carrier i had to file out.
oddly enough the carrier and top cover wont fit in an imbel reciever

the rifle is considerably more handy now that before. shoots fine, recoil isnt bad at all IMO
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In general, fine. Some specific recent ones I've received

- incomplete machining at the bottom of the recoil plate prevents lockup. Easy fix, but annoying.

receiver lock hole not centered. Off just enough that the lug hits the side of the hole, also preventing lockup.

And I guess they dump all their warped receiver locks on people who buy para lowers, because I'm seeing a pattern.

And the DSA para receiver is not a perfect fit to the DSA para stock. I have to reduce the diameter of the stock bolt since the two holes don't align.
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In general, fine. Some specific recent ones I've received

- incomplete machining at the bottom of the recoil plate prevents lockup. Easy fix, but annoying.

receiver lock hole not centered. Off just enough that the lug hits the side of the hole, also preventing lockup.

And I guess they dump all their warped receiver locks on people who buy para lowers, because I'm seeing a pattern.

And the DSA para receiver is not a perfect fit to the DSA para stock. I have to reduce the diameter of the stock bolt since the two holes don't align.
It looks like the bolt rails are a little too long and possibly the bolt body is slightly too wide. The para stock bolts into the lower without issue
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....oddly enough the carrier and top cover wont fit in an imbel reciever....
Well, that's discouraging. I had been entertaining a para conversion on my Imbel but I really don't to make a whole new project out of the task.
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And the DSA para receiver is not a perfect fit to the DSA para stock. I have to reduce the diameter of the stock bolt since the two holes don't align.
Thats weird,,,they dont come already assembled together anymore
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Thats weird,,,they dont come already assembled together anymore
Sure they do, for just a bit more $$ you can have the plug-n-play version.

https://www.dsarms.com/p-12959-fal-s...ara-sight.aspx

These are sweet lowers, if you're in doubt get the complete unit and then you will have "send it back for a replacement" factory warranty.
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I have used these and found no problems with them.

ORIGINAL FN FAL PARATROOPER LOWER RECEIVER STRIPPED. NEW OLD STOCK.

Price: $225.00

http://www.northridgeinc.com/category-s/119.htm
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