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Old April 05, 2006, 12:39   #1
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ak rivet squeezing bolt cutter jaws

Does anyone know or have a link to who was selling bolt cutter jaws that were used for squeezing ak rivets? The ones I'm thinking of were a replacement set of jaws the were maybe plasma cut from tool steel. You put them into your bolt cutters and were good to go.

Also, has anyone modified regular cheapie bolt cutters and used them to rivet an ak kit. Anyone have a diagram or template that they would share on the modified jaws?

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Old April 05, 2006, 14:55   #2
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Cummins_4x4 was the vendor on the FALFiles.
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=160911
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Old April 05, 2006, 15:11   #3
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http://pookieweb.dyndns.org:61129/AK...boltcutter.htm

Great resource with some info, Harbor Freight had their 24" cutters on sale for $8.99 each a few weeks back, so I picked up three.

I only wish there was a way to adapt them to do the triggerguard rivets.
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Old April 05, 2006, 15:24   #4
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Here is a pair of Home Depot 24" bolt cutters I modified with a Dremel and a few cut-off wheels. It worked fine on the first AK I did and then I had to remove some more material from the crosspiece and in that hook on the one side so they would work on a different AK. Trial and error. I used the more expensive Chinese Home Depot cutters because there isn't a Harbor Freight store selling their less expensive Chinese cutters in this area.
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Old April 05, 2006, 20:16   #5
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Bykerhyd,

So You've actually used them to rivet an AK?
Do you just have to contour the one side down enough to get into the trunnion?

I assume that I'd need to remove the tapered/ cutting part of the jaws.
Do I need to get boltcutters that have an adjustment that would force the jaws to close further once I remove the cutting edge?

It just seems that I'll be removing a lot of material to get the jaws down to their max width behind the cutting edge. I'm concerned that they won't close enough to squeeze the barrel trunninon rivets down far enough.
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Old April 05, 2006, 22:29   #6
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Woodman, did you read through the link I posted? Pookie's website does answer a lot of those questions, with some good pics.

Hope this helps, I know it pushed me in the direction of getting a set of bolt cutters for the three patterns Pookie recommended.
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Old April 06, 2006, 08:26   #7
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My cutters were modeled after pictures and the story on the pookieweb site. Also this web site.
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Old April 06, 2006, 08:38   #8
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I did use the rivet tool on two AKs. It worked to my satisfaction.
You need a tool, plate actually, drilled and shaped to support the rivet head on the outside of the receiver so it doesn't lose it's nice dome head shape while you mash the inside flat with that "tooth" on the rivet tool's jaw.
I ground off the cutting edge on one jaw and then ground & shaped the other side and you also need to be able to get it into the trunnion so the back side gets whittled down. The next thing is cutting in to the crosspiece so the jaw can reach deep enough into the trunnion for the rear rivets. And then you have to be able to crush the rivets from the mag well side also. But the finished shape seemed to work ok for that also. I spent a couple hours fooling around with the Dremel, trial fittings, etc, and used about a half dozen Dremel cut-off wheels plus a file here and there to square things up.
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Old April 07, 2006, 08:32   #9
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Adventurer 96,
I've read through a lot of the info on pookie's site, thank you. I just wanted to ask someone directly, that had used them, a couple of questions. Thanks again for the link.

Bykerhyd,
Thanks for the responses.

Cummins 4x4 seems to be AWOL.
The ones I was referring to for sale were jaws only. Apparently this guy was cutting and shaping new jaws out of hardened steel plate. You bought the bolt cutters locally and replaced the cast jaws with his. Can't remember where it was posted though.

I think I've gleaned enough info from here and other sources to give it a try.
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Old April 07, 2006, 09:14   #10
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I don'y know how far along you are on your project. The information and links from pookieweb were a lot of help. This page showed me what to do with the puller to remove the barrel and then how to reinstall the barrel.
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The outfit that was supposed to be making the modified bolt cutter jaws apparently never got off the ground. It was a new company and didn't make it into actual production I think. Called Greenlight Arms. Website still works. I am not sure whether they will try again or not.
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Old April 07, 2006, 10:39   #11
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I made my rivet squisher with a pair of 14" bolt cutters from Lowes. Yes, I went to small on the size but they still work. The front two rivets get crushed from the front the top back 2 get crashed from the top. The bottoms rivets get it from the mag well. I've also been using a thin piece of tool steel with a dimple in it as a backup for the outside head of the rivet.

All of my rivet builds have come out good. As long as you can smoosh the rivets so they're tight, your good to go. Your Rivet tool looks real good compaired to mine. I had to go back with a welder and add some to the inside ram tip and reshape it.



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Old April 07, 2006, 21:27   #12
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I don't mean to Hi-Jack your thread, but what kind of receiver is that guy useing ?

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Old April 07, 2006, 23:11   #13
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Woodmann, no problem, I just wanted to make sure you knew the link was really related to the topic. Too often I've seen folks post links that have little or nothing to do with the topic on the board.

When I get to a free state in a couple of weeks/months and settle in to the new house my Romy kit is first on the "to-do" list.
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Old April 08, 2006, 03:35   #14
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Marked for later..

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Old April 08, 2006, 07:56   #15
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Court, I think that is a blank of some sort. It looks like a template peeled back or something. Just a guess though.
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Old April 08, 2006, 21:38   #16
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OK, I see now it's like masking tape or something similar that he used to mark where to drill for the rivet.

After seeing that FAL receiver that some guy tried to weld together a few years ago I thought it could be something like that.

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Old April 08, 2006, 21:59   #17
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Here is the rivit tool I use.



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Old April 08, 2006, 22:46   #18
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don't mean to Hi-Jack your thread, but what kind of receiver is that guy useing ?

looks very much like the receiver from this guy:

http://gunsgutsandgod.com

http://gunsgutsandgod.com/akreceiverblanks.htm

I've got a couple of his 80% receivers, can't say enough good things about his product and dealing with him.
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Old April 09, 2006, 00:05   #19
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rivet tool

I make and sell 24" bolt cutter tools if you are interested
$35.00 plus shipping..Pat
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I don't mean to Hi-Jack your thread, but what kind of receiver is that guy useing ?

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I think it's an AK receiver...



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Hey Vince, where did you get that pair of squeezers. looks perfect
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Old April 09, 2006, 19:46   #22
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Hey Vince, where did you get that pair of squeezers. looks perfect
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Matco. They were in their aviation catalog. BTW, better sit down before you look cuz the price will take your wind.

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Old April 09, 2006, 19:52   #23
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Is it like this one?
http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/to...select=&page=2
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Matco. They were in their aviation catalog. BTW, better sit down before you look cuz the price will take your wind.
Yes, but look for rivet squeezers on eBay. They have them for relatively cheap. I bought rivet tool heads for my pneumatic impact hammer for less than $25 shipped. All of my rivets are now hammered, not smooshed.
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Is it like this one?
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Apears so. Mine came with three yokes.

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I watched E-Bay for quite a while trying to find a rivet tool like vmtz has after he first put up the information. Prices were still right up there when they showed up. There are other industrial riveters which may work also that turn up sometimes, usually more expensive and requiring air or whatever. I finally just gave up and chopped up the bolt cutters. It's only an AK and I was only building two. Another one or two and I probably would have sprung for that tool or maybe attemted to build one of the plinker jigs.
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tagging it so you will remember the thread?

its good info to have.
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Nice job Edgsmth !
How did you dimple that jaw so nicely ?
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Thanks, but those were web pics.
"Ball end mill size is 9/32""

I bought a carbide ball end mill on fleabay for $8 to make mine.
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You can use a 5/16" carbide burr to make the dimples. It works perfectly.

Dude, buy one from restoreit1. I got one from him off of the AK Files. $35 to my door. In my zeal to get my first AK done, I managed to break the "crush" side of the bolt cutter. I messaged him, he asked for the old head back. He sent me, free of charge, a new head AND a spare "crush" side of the bolt cutter.

I've used that bolt cutter on 3 builds now. All have turned out perfectly. I also asked him if he could put some burrs in a scrap piece of 1/4x1 1/2x 6" so I could do the rear rivets on a standard trunnion using a ball peen hammer and a dremel. He did that free of charge and sent it back with the new cutter head.

I didn't even know he was a member here.
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Does anyone know or have a link to who was selling bolt cutter jaws that were used for squeezing ak rivets? The ones I'm thinking of were a replacement set of jaws the were maybe plasma cut from tool steel. You put them into your bolt cutters and were good to go.

Also, has anyone modified regular cheapie bolt cutters and used them to rivet an ak kit. Anyone have a diagram or template that they would share on the modified jaws?

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If still actual check this guidance on modern bolt cutters, only best models are represented here. The article compared prices and quality of tools, a must-read for people in search of good and affordable bolt cutter.
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