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Old November 22, 2012, 13:34   #151
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Another way that the R Selector FAL was converted from Semi to Full. (Not mine again; damn that's getting old. )
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Old November 22, 2012, 14:29   #152
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Guys would grind the tip away as well as grind the opposing cut, some even had the tip and the cut, then they would grind off the Pin on the receiver, African ingenuity, would love to see what we would have come up with with the ATF approved receiver.
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Old December 11, 2012, 23:23   #153
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What most people believe to be true of Rhodesia is not, but is true of Zimbabwe and Zambia. There were low standards, very little organization, and basically no adult leaders. The Soviet Union, China, and their surrogates, agitated the natives, and supplied troops and weapons, while "do-gooders" turned the world against apartheid, and once the civilized folks were driven out, the countries fell into chaos.[/QUOTE]

Wow! Having been fortunate enough to have made a trip to South Africa, and having made some good friends there, you have summed up what the world did to Southern Africa. Once the "do gooders" were done, they were gone. I bet my check that they would no live in most parts of SA right now.

I hope to build a Rhodesian, or perhaps something as a wall hanger, and then a SA as a tribute to my friends. I have just discovered these rifles after buying an Israeli heavy barrel a few years ago for a song, and then mostly forgetting about it. They fit with Southern African history well.
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Old January 05, 2013, 02:25   #154
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Very nice rifles posted here, wish I could find a Rhodesian rifle at a descent price...
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Old January 10, 2013, 15:16   #155
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S.A. R1

Hi I have just joined this site I am an ex S.A.D.F. soldier (1977 intake. I.D no 743!!125 BA).now living in the States. I am glad to see the interest in my first wife the"R1 (never referred to a gun in the S.A.D.F. severe rifle P.T would ensue if the word gun was used).
The R1 was manufactured under license from FN by Lyttelton Engineering Works a few miles from Pretoria. Lyttelton is part of the government owned ARMSCOR group. There were early FN's with wood stocks ,made to S.A. specifications (had grenade sight)in circulation in the S.A.D.F. . As troops we preferred to get issued an F N if at all possible as they were of a manufactured to a higher quality than the R1.
After my RIFLE never leaving my side for the 2 year military service and numerous3 month camps for years after that, and the rifle PT we had to endure with it , we were all glad when we handed them back. However after many years I have purchased a FN G model ,I have infinite respect for the rifle as it saved my life on a few occasions during the Bush War.

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Old January 10, 2013, 15:50   #156
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Welcome Dave! It's good to have somebody that's actually been there and done that.
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Old January 10, 2013, 16:28   #157
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Thanks for welcome Hoot G. We were all drafted in those days ,no way out.As time goes on I kind off miss it ,the best friends I ever made come from those days. A few good Recce , Parabat and and Battalion 32. "china's" (S.A. slang for buddy). It was a lot of VASBYT (S.A. army talk for NEVER GIVE UP?
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Old January 10, 2013, 16:45   #158
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Hi seagravedriver. Thank you for the insight in to the Southern African view. It was a wonderful place. It was the cold war era when I served In S.A.D.F. .To cut a long story short the Russians wanted South Africa for the vast mineral wealth and the Cape sea route (needed once the Suez was blocked off). We fought Cubans in Angola sent there by Russia to avoid direct involvement and those ANC terrorists . I have so much to tell , don't want to bore you
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Old January 10, 2013, 17:47   #159
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when we's

Although my dad was born Rhodesian and I have a 2 Rhodesians cousins and aunt . We are different people. When the Rhodies flocked out on the chicken run. there were many wild nights at the Westville hotel [16 miles north of Durban S.A.)
When the war stories started in the bar
The Rhodies had some tall ones which us South Africans would question.
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Old January 10, 2013, 20:59   #160
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Wecome, very few of us here, I am had my share at the westville and you always meet interesting people there.I had the r4 but in the SAP I had the fortune of using FAL , so hence my attraction.
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Old January 10, 2013, 22:31   #161
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Howzit R1 shooter. Hoe gaan dit? Ja the old days boet when THE STEM was the national anthem. All that afkak vir niks nie
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Old January 10, 2013, 22:42   #162
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Dit gaan goed, Geen afkak hier, vir nou as jy hard werk kan jy baie speelding koop maar die kak kom met die vuurwapens, net soos in Suid Afrika, ek het Geen ander plek om te gaan.
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Old January 10, 2013, 23:12   #163
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Howzit R1 shooter. Ja die kak kom met die vuurwapens hierdie kant. Ek kan nie glo nie dat ek weer ',n' hoetie vir president het. Ek het gedink dat Mandela was my laste
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Old January 10, 2013, 23:21   #164
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Welcome, Suid Afrikaner. I would not find the old war stories boring at all so please, pull up a chair and we'll pour you a cold one.

I know you're originally from South Africa (would that be Suid Afrika? I apologize if I got it wrong) but a site you might be interested in is http://www.newrhodesian.net/

You probably already know about it. I would be very interested in any history you could share with us and thanks for dropping in
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Old January 11, 2013, 05:07   #166
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Howzit MistWolf. Thanks for the welcome. As you probably know there is 2white languages ,namely English and Afrikaans. South Africa is the English spelling whilst Suid Afrika is the Afrikaans. Therefore an English South African ,which I am is called a South African whilst an Afrikaans speaker is a Suid Afrikaner.
During our school years we had to learn each others language and it is common for South Africans to use both languages as I did with my member name on this site
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Beautiful collection, but I'm in love with the character of your STG build.

I know nothing quite matches, but it's a work of art...

The R1 and the build second from the top are gorgeous too.
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Old January 15, 2013, 06:17   #168
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Howzit R1 shooter. Ja die kak kom met die vuurwapens hierdie kant. Ek kan nie glo nie dat ek weer ',n' hoetie vir president het. Ek het gedink dat Mandela was my laste
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So bly daar is n paar meer souties hier op FALfiles!
How long have you been states side?

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Hi seagravedriver. Thank you for the insight in to the Southern African view. It was a wonderful place. It was the cold war era when I served In S.A.D.F. .To cut a long story short the Russians wanted South Africa for the vast mineral wealth and the Cape sea route (needed once the Suez was blocked off). We fought Cubans in Angola sent there by Russia to avoid direct involvement and those ANC terrorists . I have so much to tell , don't want to bore you
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Stories, please. I will pour a cold one in my Castle Lager glass and wait. I hope to be back in SA, (ZA)?, in a year or two. I wish would would have backed SA with the same enthusiasm and support we have given Egypt and Saudi Arabia. What a beautiful country SA is.
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Anyone have recommendations on where to find that lovely green paint for my Rhodesian build?
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Use the SEARCH function and type in Rhodie Paint Code

To get you started-
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=187405
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No, MY apologies. I did not intend for it to come across that way. I was kinda in a hurry but wanted to point you in the right direction. Some good threads came up using those key words in the search
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Wound up bored last night and decided to strip down my Rhodesian lower to see how it all works. There were a lot of dead bugs in that cosmoline
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I heard this was the place to go for Rhodie therapy?

My Name is Shep 762 and I found myself strangely attracted to this
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Stimps got me thinking about Rhodie paint and I searched ... I found this and it made me LOL!
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Old April 04, 2013, 01:02   #179
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Photos of one of the few South African R1s brought into the US. Photos supplied by yovinny



This example has the crest and it appears that the upper has Type I lightening cuts. Maybe yovinnie will come by and grace us with further photos and details
That is not an R1. It is a rifle manufactured for South Africa by Fabrique Nationale. The R1 was manufactured domestically in South Africa and has quite a different lower receiver – especially as far as the cutout on the magazine well is concerned.

EDIT 19-04-2013: I need to clarify. Technical SADF nomenclature would probably have classified all FAL rifles of 50.00 configuration as R1 rifles – regardless of whether they were manufactured by Fabrique Nationale d’Herstal or manufactured in South Africa. However, amongst collectors and cognoscenti here in South Africa the term R1 is used to refer only to the South African manufactured rifles and not to the FAL rifles manufactured by Fabrique Nationale d’Herstal under contract to the South African government; only these last mentioned were South African crested.

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Four pages and nobody has posted this picture yet
This picture shows a great variety of weapons used.
From the front of the truck, left side;
- 1st guy has a FAL with no muzzle device
- 2nd guy has a (ex-Turkish) G1 FAL, metal handguards and no muzzle device

right side;
- 1st guy has a new 50.00/R1, still with carry handle
- 2nd guy has a new 30rd magazine and a straight cut magazine well
- 4th guy has a (ex-Portuguese) HK(FMP) G3

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Old April 15, 2013, 09:28   #181
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ZA marked tan paint. Anybody got a match for this color? How were they usually painted? Same as a Rhodie as far as what didn't get painted? Or something different?
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This picture shows a great variety of weapons used.
From the front of the truck, left side;
- 1st guy has a FAL with no muzzle device
- 2nd guy has a (ex-Turkish) G1 FAL, metal handguards and no muzzle device

right side;
- 1st guy has a new 50.00/R1, still with carry handle
- 2nd guy has a new 30rd magazine
- 4th guy has a (ex-Portuguese) HK(FMP) G3

On the right side, third counting from the back - looking at the radius on the magazine well cut-out I would say it is likely an LIW made R1.
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ZA marked tan paint. Anybody got a match for this color? How were they usually painted? Same as a Rhodie as far as what didn't get painted? Or something different?
No, it wasn't just brush slopped like the Rhodesians did it. It was spray applied and usually pretty well done. Fairly hard wearing stuff but certainly the guns all had wear patches over time.
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On the right side, third counting from the back - looking at the radius on the magazine well cut-out I would say it is likely an LIW made R1.
You are correct Wanderin' Zero, that rifle looks exactly like the one I have except mine is not painted like that.

A few of those 30 round mags would look nice next to my rifle though!!

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You are correct Wanderin' Zero, that rifle looks exactly like the one I have except mine is not painted like that.

A few of those 30 round mags would look nice next to my rifle though!!
Those mags don't work that well on FALs (the springs aren't really up to the job). They were made to be used in the 7.62 x 51mm Bren conversion the South Africans did.
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Not saying folks shouldn't post pictures here, but the New Rhodesian site has some very cool stuff, even a thread dedicated to Rhodie Fals
http://www.newrhodesian.net/


I just signed up had a little bit of a problem answering the national athem question, thank God for google
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Some photos I've collected

Photos of a Rhodie being sold overseas. If I recall, this one was for sale in Italy. It's a fully functional rifle modified to semi only

It's an R1 complete with South African markings. Perhaps it was made before the embargo. Or it found it's way across the border by other means. Why there are no paint remnants other than on the dust cover and forearm, I don't know. It's clearly engraved with an RA number. What I like about it is that it clearly has the SA or "Type 1.5" lightening cuts

It's possible it's numbers all match. The RA numbers (below) are the same. The "M. Jager" shown in the above photo was engraved to meet some requirement of the law after the rifle was surplussed off. I can't find my reference notes and I don't recall the details



You can see the ladder for the grenade sight has been broken off

This rifle has an unusual muzzle device. I think it goes with the one for sale by DSA


For it's elegance, the Austrian built StG58 is my favorite FAL. The SA built Rhodies, because of their history of war and supplied to Rhodesia in defiance of the arms embargo, I find to be the most fascinating
N.Jager means "Nuova Jager" ( www.nuovajager.it )
It's an italian reseller.
Here, in Italy, few moths ago there was a pair of this FAL. They was sell for about 1000 euro, too expansive in relation of a new stg58 who the price is 650.00 euro

The "n.Jager" was write into the rifle because the (old) law imposes to write the name of the company who modify the rifle from FA to SA.

P.S.one of the 2 Rhodesia FAL was with gas valve broken.
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Once the "do gooders" were done, they were gone. I bet my check that they would no live in most parts of __ right now.

We have many such do-gooders here in the USA. The limo-liberals.

Politicians want to spread their socialist crap - Bloomieberg, Feinswine, Pelosi for example - then retreat with their bodyguards to their gated compounds after dark as opposed to living where they did their deed.

Same with our Hollyweird types; they make their money from violent, gun-filled movies - then attack US gunowners and the 2A from their billion-dollar mansions.


Mandatory FAL content - keep the Rhodie pics coming please!
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Considering the number of Coonan R-1/Rhodie receivers and DSA also doing their version of the R-1/ Rhodie receivers I sure expected to see more completed R-1/Rhodie builds posted by now.......

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It was the cold war era when I served In S.A.D.F. .
. I have so much to tell , don't want to bore you
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please tell,

I'm positive 99% of us would love to hear some first hand history

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Four pages and nobody has posted this picture yet
This picture shows a great variety of weapons used.
From the front of the truck, left side;
- 1st guy has a FAL with no muzzle device
- 2nd guy has a (ex-Turkish) G1 FAL, metal handguards and no muzzle device

right side;
- 1st guy has a new 50.00/R1, still with carry handle
- 2nd guy has a new 30rd magazine
- 4th guy has a (ex-Portuguese) HK(FMP) G3

Troopie in the rear left....open eared gas block?
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Troopie in the rear left....open eared gas block?
Good eyes. Looks like it but hard to be sure. No muzzle device.

Opposite him in the rear (actually the front of the truck, right ?), FAL is plainly not camouflaged and carry handle is still attached. These points were remarked on earlier but they prove once again there are no absolutes when to comes to the Rhodies.
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Screwed this one together today. Still needs a test fire/finish on paint. The current paint is all original... The grenade sights can get in the way of the sight picture sometime so I left it off.





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Beautiful furniture on that rifle, are you going to "poop' the rest of her to match? On one of my Rhodie FNs the grenade sight pops up under reoil and blocks the front sight, but there's a picture either on this site, or the New Rhodesian site, that shows Rhodesian Troops firing off hand, their support arm is all the way forward on the handguard, I call this the "Rhodesian Hold."

It's basically what all the 3-gun AR guys are using as a hold to "drive" their ARs from one target to the next in rapid seccession. But the Rhodies where doing it first, and they probably learned it from somebody else, but they were the first I ever saw using that hold.

I said all that to say, if you are using the Rhodie Hold, your thumb will hold the grenade sight down, so that solves that problem, so for authenticity, I would reinstall the grenade style gas plug, to me, a Rhodie doesn't look like a Rhodie without the grenade sight, but that's just me.

On one of mine I just wrapped a rubber band around it and the handguards, to keep it in place. Sounds like something a Troopie might do in the field. But that was just MY solution, I have NO picture to back that up, that using a rubber band was ever done.

It's a beautiful rifle, hope she's a shooter for you!
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Old June 09, 2013, 06:29   #198
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Yep its getting a matching poop job after I do a test fire.

Good idea on the rubber band...twine might also work.
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Yep its getting a matching poop job after I do a test fire.

Good idea on the rubber band...twine might also work.
Yeah, twine, string, strand of rope - makes sense to me!
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Or copper wire, rubber band wouldn't last more than 3 days in the sun.
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