SPF Australian L1a1 on Imbel SPF (lots of pic's)

davesrb · May 06, 2010, 15:17

Thinning the Herd continues!

I have a nice L1A1 I bought from SLR-5000 a couple of years ago. I usually refinish my FAL's, but this one looked so cool, I left it alone. Really nice furniture (IronWood) and the Imbel receiver matches the slightly worn finish of the rest of the rifle really well. I have shot maybe 60 rounds through this rifle, and she is very accurate. Deposited brass in a nice pile about 4 feet away. The barrel bore is nice and shiny, strong rifling (I hope my pictures show that.)
I believe the rifle is compliant (it was sold as such) But I can't find the original post. There are no markings on the hts. However since I didn't build it, I don't know.

The pictures make the patina on the bayonet and bolt look like rust, but it isn't and is much less noticeable in person.

Rifle will come with a long sling, nice bayonet, and one magazine.

Here's the pictures:

I'm asking $1,400 shipped with the rifle, sling, bayonet and one mag. That's pretty much what I have in this package.

****5/11/2010 reduced to $1,300 shipped. Might not go any lower than this, if it doesn't sell it'll just go back in the safe.*****

First "I'll take it followed by a pm" gets this really nice L1A1. Must ship to a FFL unless you want face to face in north Florida (Panama City to Pensacola) Your FFL must accept shipment from an individual. For $25 additional, I can ship from an FFL to yours. Payment within 5 days, Postal Money orders preferred.

Thanks for looking!

Davesrb

MODS, I'll delete this high bandwidth post as soon as the buyer takes delivery.

Lost Kangaroo · May 06, 2010, 19:37

If it is legal for me to own here in upstate NY I would love to relieve you of it.

Sean

davesrb · May 06, 2010, 20:31

Quote:

Originally posted by Lost Kangaroo
If it is legal for me to own here in upstate NY I would love to relieve you of it.
Sean

Hi Sean,
I am not up on NY laws, so I can't really help much with that. Maybe someone else can chime in here.

Try going dow to Falaholics Anonymous, FAL groups, and check out someone in your state. THey may be able to help you out.

Then just let me know.
Davesrb

**LaConservationist** · May 06, 2010, 20:43

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law...tate)#New_York

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...lt_Weapons_Ban

THis will take some reading to answer but from what I have read, Lost Kangaroo, you are SOL! BUT before taking my word do some more research, I only posted a few items, laws change and some or misread!

Hope this helps!

davesrb · May 07, 2010, 16:30

BTT.

I would also consider a trade, if some one has an MSAR STG556 sitting around.....

Davesrb

**DakTo** · May 07, 2010, 16:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Lost Kangaroo
If it is legal for me to own here in upstate NY I would love to relieve you of it.

Sean

Contact your local FFL and he if will transfer it for you that will answer your question.

V guy · May 07, 2010, 21:41

This is not trolling, as it has been requested:

That gun has too many evil features.
Only 2 evil features allowed on any post ban gun in NYS
1. mag
2. pistol grip
We're all done here.

Flash hider is#3.
It will also accept a bayonet#4 and grenade launcher#5.
Bad bad bad.

The flashhider HAS to go to eliminate the extra evil features, and must be removed before shipping to NYS to prevent your FFL from going ballistic and calling the cops, or sending it right back.

It is illegal for the NYS FFL to sell an POST BAN assault weapon in the state. That gun was mfg after 1994.
Hope this helps.

Lost Kangaroo · May 07, 2010, 23:00

Hey V....the Lithgow Small Arms factory phased out the L1A1 around 1991...I know because I left the Army just as the Aussteyr was being phased in...also built at Lithgow...that was 1993...so if you could please tell me how this rifle is newer than the assault ban...9/14/94...I would like to know..."not trolling" but you made the statement sound like a fact. The Imbel receiver could very well be new...meaning I would need to buy a postban receiver...thats possible...but the rest of the rifle has to be legit. If you know something I dont please share, because I would hate to put my FFL buds on the chopping block. Secondly...the post says that the rifle is compliant...there are things you cant see that go towards the magic 3 US parts...gas piston...gas piston spring...trigger....etc....if the rifle was sold as compliant...it is... I have an AK variant...yes, it has a low cap mag, but it also has a pistol grip, a bayonet lug and a few other "evil" features, including it is way shorter and more easily wielded in confined spaces.
If you really know what you are talking about...please educate me.
Roo

Lost Kangaroo · May 07, 2010, 23:27

I talked to the local gunshop and it seems that the laws are hard for them to keep straight.... The owner said that he has a good friend that is a State Trooper and is well versed in the law. He is visiting the shop tomorrow, so I am waiting for a call to find out whats what...

**Andy the Aussie** · May 07, 2010, 23:41

If the receiver is post 94 it does not matter when the parts were made as it is this part that is considered the firearm, I am also under the impression that when the rifle was assembled (that is considered the "manufacturing" in this equation) also effects pre/post 94.

Where did you hail from out here mate ...???

Lost Kangaroo · May 07, 2010, 23:50

G'day Andy, I was born in Albury, spent my youth between Great Western (vic) and Glen Waverly (vic)....in the Army I was posted to Vic Barracks in Sydney...spent 5 or so years there...lived in Cronulla for 12 or so years...somehow I ended up here.....in Rochester NY...USA....

Lost Kangaroo · May 07, 2010, 23:52

I spoke with a good friend and he suggested that I have the rifle sent out as parts..I could get everything except the receiver...then I would have to get a receiver sent through my FFL....perhaps the way I need to go

**Andy the Aussie** · May 07, 2010, 23:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Lost Kangaroo
G'day Andy, I was born in Albury, spent my youth between Great Western (vic) and Glen Waverly (vic)....in the Army I was posted to Vic Barracks in Sydney...spent 5 or so years there...lived in Cronulla for 12 or so years...somehow I ended up here.....in Rochester NY...USA....

......I am originally from the Upper Hunter.... stuck in Sydney now (the last 17yrs). There are a few good members of this sight around you in Rochester (I was there in 2006) that can point you in the right direction on firearm law related matters.

Andy

PS ....do you at all pine for Aussie beer ??????

Lost Kangaroo · May 08, 2010, 00:02

Not since I started growing my own hops and brewing my own beer...but yes...every now and then I will break down and hit up Beers of the World for a six pack of Coopers or New...

I looked through the member list and couldnt spot any Rochestarians...do you have names or should I go do it again.

**Andy the Aussie** · May 08, 2010, 00:05

PM on the way mate....

V guy · May 08, 2010, 11:44

Just trying to keep people out of the NYS penal system.

3rd degree criminal possession of an illegal assault weapon is a felony.

2 years ago, a local guy was arrested for having a collapsible stock on an AR-15 clone. Felony.
He lost all his firearms for life, for just putting on a third evil feature. He was picked up for another minor charge and his weapon was noticed.

The whole pre ban-post ban issue is pretty simple in this state.

The upper receiver has to be pre ban to have all the evil features, and you may have to prove it. The rest of the parts can be made at anytime, of course.

I believe that it also had to be assembled pre '94 and cannot be assembled post '94, but that is tough to prove, maybe.

I doubt that it is a pre 94 Imbel receiver, BUT that is a possibility. If you can prove it to your FFL's satisfaction with a letter from Century, good.

Remember the 1st Bush ban in '89 of non sporting weapons may also come into play if it is a pre ban, as the SAC-Latta guns ran into that situation, until the expiration of the Fed AWB.
The prohibition still applies in NYS, however.

Generally the rule here is 2 evil features only.

If you buy a kit and sanitize it, and them buy a receiver, the responsibility becomes yours alone, as the FFL is "clean".

I would not run the risk of a having a muzzle device that allows for mounting the FAL bayonet or grenade launcher. That allows 5 evil features.

In 2003, Century did sell their AWB R1A1 guns with a muzzle compensator and before that, in 1999++--, some L1A1 named guns just with a cut down inch bbl and thumbhole stock.
I owned both so that is true. I still have the thumbhole inch stock

davesrb · May 08, 2010, 17:40

So clearly, you don't move to New York if you like Evil rifles.

Meanwhile, for the rest of the United States...

BTT

Davesrb

**indy_Muaddib** · May 08, 2010, 17:55

which model msar you looking for?

got a gebirgsjager that i might be willing to get rid of for your fal and some cash.

davesrb · May 08, 2010, 19:37

Quote:

Originally posted by indy_Muaddib
which model msar you looking for?

got a gebirgsjager that i might be willing to get rid of for your fal and some cash.

Man Indy, That's nice. I'd love to trade, but i spent my extra cash on receivers. Maybe a FAL and some AR stuff?

Drop me a pm if you would like to discuss..
Davesrb

Lost Kangaroo · May 08, 2010, 21:53

Thanks for the info V...like I said...educate me. And yes, I would like to stay away from the penal system, thats why I am being extra careful...
Sean

gauraprema · May 09, 2010, 05:48

"Feel like a tooheys today"aussi beer,drive through liquor stores.My ex and my 3 kids live near mount warning(wullumbin).

**indy_Muaddib** · May 09, 2010, 11:21

since were both in FL a ftf wouldnt be a huge problem if your willing to meet up somewhere halfway between Panama City and Tampa.

maybe lake city or five points.

ACDer · May 09, 2010, 15:26

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse-but to be clear- the NY law is basically a copy of the expired federal law. If this rifle is a post 94 rifle, it would need to lose the flashider/bayo lug and muzzle threads, or have a permanently attached non-flashider muzzle device (i.e. a muzzlebrake) to be NY legal. The magazine itself is not "an evil feature" as mentioned above and neutering the pointy end would make it NY legal, again assuming a post 94 rifle. Pre 94 rifles are grandfathered in. there is debate on whether the date of assembly versus receiver manufacture date controls, and to be on the safe side, a prudent person with any doubts would just go ahead and neuter it as described to make it NY legal..

the NY state statute-

22. "Assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an
ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the
following characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
the weapon;
(iii) a bayonet mount;
(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a
flash suppressor;
(v) a grenade launcher; or
(b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following
characteristics:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of
the weapon;
(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds;
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
(c) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable
magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics:
(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the
pistol grip;
(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash
suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely
encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm
with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
(iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is
unloaded;
(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm;
or
(d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such
weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known
as:
(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all
models);
(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;
(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);
(iv) Colt AR-15;
(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;
(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;
(vii) Steyr AUG;
(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and
(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street sweeper.

(e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle,
shotgun or pistol that (A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or
slide action; (B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (C) is an
antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16);....

(v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic
pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this
subdivision lawfully possessed prior to September fourteenth, nineteen
hundred ninety-four.

two

davesrb · May 09, 2010, 21:38

Quote:

Originally posted by indy_Muaddib
since were both in FL a ftf wouldnt be a huge problem if your willing to meet up somewhere halfway between Panama City and Tampa.

maybe lake city or five points.

Yeah, if we can come up with an equitable trade, half way would work for me.

Davesrb

ceb3 · May 09, 2010, 22:14

son is interested in a fal with wood.(i ahave all aussie on eden looks just like yours and i told him he cant have it til im dead)sold the poyer. like the coachwood better and so does son.real question is if the gun was put together post ban is it 922r compliant (have the requisite number of us parts)im an atoorney so i know a little bit about what it needs to have.it is a nice looking gun.pm me where you are in fla. son and i are both south of the lake -opposite coasts.

davesrb · May 10, 2010, 16:54

Ok, now that we all know about New York's laws.......

All email's and pm's answered. Still available.

Davesrb

JeffJ · May 10, 2010, 20:23

maybe a dumb question, but is it an inch Imbel receiver?

davesrb · May 10, 2010, 21:00

Quote:

Originally posted by JeffJ
maybe a dumb question, but is it an inch Imbel receiver?

It takes Metric magazines, but has the inch cuts for tabs on the top cover and is cut for the folding charging handle.

Davesrb

davesrb · May 11, 2010, 22:12

Price reduced $100 to $1,300 shipped. Might not go any lower. If it doesn't sell it will just go back in the safe.

Davesrb

altreco · May 12, 2010, 21:32

That is a frackin' beautiful rifle

davesrb · May 13, 2010, 20:02

Quote:

Originally posted by altreco
That is a frackin' beautiful rifle

Thanks!

BTT

Davesrb

General_Nuisance · May 14, 2010, 03:07

Yes it is love the wood

davesrb · May 14, 2010, 19:26

Quote:

Originally posted by General_Nuisance
Yes it is love the wood

Thanks!

All pm's and email's answered.

Davesrb

davesrb · May 16, 2010, 00:14

BTT

rduckwor · May 17, 2010, 15:36

Well, I can't seem to PM you, but have questions. Could you please email me re: this FAL if available?

Perhaps I am too much of an FAL noob.

Thanks,

RMD

rduckwor2006 AT elmore DOT rr DOT com

davesrb · May 17, 2010, 16:39

Quote:

Originally posted by rduckwor
Well, I can't seem to PM you, but have questions. Could you please email me re: this FAL if available?

Perhaps I am too much of an FAL noob.

Thanks,

RMD

rduckwor2006 AT elmore DOT rr DOT com

Email bounced. I PM'ed you.

Davesrb

PvtJoker · May 18, 2010, 01:20

Any interest in doing some trading on a CZ97B .45acp pistol and/or a Winchester Model 70 in 7mm Rem Mag plus some cash?

davesrb · May 18, 2010, 09:03

Quote:

Originally posted by PvtJoker
Any interest in doing some trading on a CZ97B .45acp pistol and/or a Winchester Model 70 in 7mm Rem Mag plus some cash?

Thanks for the offer, but I'm really trying to free up some room. The only real interest I have as far as trading would be am MSAR STG556 or a PS90.

Thanks,
Davesrb

PvtJoker · May 19, 2010, 00:15

No problem Dave; it never hurts to ask...

gunfanx3 · May 20, 2010, 11:43

Bump for a good looking rifle and good seller. gunfanx3

davesrb · May 21, 2010, 10:22

L1A1 is SOLD pending funds

Davesrb

**LaConservationist** · May 21, 2010, 21:59

What is next on the block? Izzy heavy barrel?

rduckwor · May 22, 2010, 15:55

Great for you! It was a beautiful gun.

RMD

ccg2814 · May 25, 2010, 22:47

Thanks again Dave. The rifle is awesome and looked even better then the pictures portrayed. Dave is a great guy to deal with to any one out there thinking about buying one of the other rifles he might be selling.

May 06, 2010, 15:17	#1
davesrb Registered FALaholic #: 24499 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: north Florida Posts: 1,757	SPF Australian L1a1 on Imbel SPF (lots of pic's) Thinning the Herd continues! I have a nice L1A1 I bought from SLR-5000 a couple of years ago. I usually refinish my FAL's, but this one looked so cool, I left it alone. Really nice furniture (IronWood) and the Imbel receiver matches the slightly worn finish of the rest of the rifle really well. I have shot maybe 60 rounds through this rifle, and she is very accurate. Deposited brass in a nice pile about 4 feet away. The barrel bore is nice and shiny, strong rifling (I hope my pictures show that.) I believe the rifle is compliant (it was sold as such) But I can't find the original post. There are no markings on the hts. However since I didn't build it, I don't know. The pictures make the patina on the bayonet and bolt look like rust, but it isn't and is much less noticeable in person. Rifle will come with a long sling, nice bayonet, and one magazine. Here's the pictures: I'm asking $1,400 shipped with the rifle, sling, bayonet and one mag. That's pretty much what I have in this package. **5/11/2010 reduced to $1,300 shipped. Might not go any lower than this, if it doesn't sell it'll just go back in the safe.*** First "I'll take it followed by a pm" gets this really nice L1A1. Must ship to a FFL unless you want face to face in north Florida (Panama City to Pensacola) Your FFL must accept shipment from an individual. For $25 additional, I can ship from an FFL to yours. Payment within 5 days, Postal Money orders preferred. Thanks for looking! Davesrb MODS, I'll delete this high bandwidth post as soon as the buyer takes delivery. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.-James Dean In memory of my friend Roger Dunkelbarger. 05-09-2010 Last edited by davesrb; May 21, 2010 at 10:23.

May 08, 2010, 17:40	#17
davesrb Registered FALaholic #: 24499 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: north Florida Posts: 1,757	So clearly, you don't move to New York if you like Evil rifles. Meanwhile, for the rest of the United States... BTT Davesrb __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.-James Dean In memory of my friend Roger Dunkelbarger. 05-09-2010

May 08, 2010, 17:55	#18
indy_Muaddib Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 17581 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tampa FL Posts: 3,046	which model msar you looking for? got a gebirgsjager that i might be willing to get rid of for your fal and some cash. __________________ All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are. -H.L. Mencken 1919 Were not that lucky.

May 09, 2010, 05:48	#21
gauraprema Registered FALaholic #: 33471 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: trade tennessee happy now Posts: 809	j "Feel like a tooheys today"aussi beer,drive through liquor stores.My ex and my 3 kids live near mount warning(wullumbin). __________________ Genesis 3:23-24 " (23) therefore the LORD God sent him out of the garden of Eden to till the ground from which he was taken. (24) So He drove out the man; and He placed cherubim at the east of the garden of Eden, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life." "America has begun a spiritual reawakening. Faith and hope are being restored. Americans are turning back to God. Church attendance is up. Audiences for religious books and broadcasts are growing. And I do believe that he has begun to heal our blessed land."RONALD REAGAN

May 09, 2010, 11:21	#22
indy_Muaddib Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 17581 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Tampa FL Posts: 3,046	since were both in FL a ftf wouldnt be a huge problem if your willing to meet up somewhere halfway between Panama City and Tampa. maybe lake city or five points. __________________ All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are. -H.L. Mencken 1919 Were not that lucky.

May 06, 2010, 19:37	#2
Lost Kangaroo Registered FALaholic #: 53146 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, NY. Posts: 16	If it is legal for me to own here in upstate NY I would love to relieve you of it. Sean

May 06, 2010, 20:43	#4
LaConservationist IN DENIAL NOT ADDICTED!! Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 42319 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Louisiana Bayous! Posts: 6,379	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law...tate)#New_York http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal...lt_Weapons_Ban THis will take some reading to answer but from what I have read, Lost Kangaroo, you are SOL! BUT before taking my word do some more research, I only posted a few items, laws change and some or misread! Hope this helps! __________________ In MEMORY of Roger "DUNKRD" Dunkelbarger September 13, 1943 - May 09, 2010 "Any one who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

May 07, 2010, 16:30	#5
davesrb Registered FALaholic #: 24499 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: north Florida Posts: 1,757	BTT. I would also consider a trade, if some one has an MSAR STG556 sitting around..... Davesrb __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.-James Dean In memory of my friend Roger Dunkelbarger. 05-09-2010

May 07, 2010, 21:41	#7
V guy Registered FALaholic #: 10282 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: miami Posts: 8,206	This is not trolling, as it has been requested: That gun has too many evil features. Only 2 evil features allowed on any post ban gun in NYS 1. mag 2. pistol grip We're all done here. Flash hider is#3. It will also accept a bayonet#4 and grenade launcher#5. Bad bad bad. The flashhider HAS to go to eliminate the extra evil features, and must be removed before shipping to NYS to prevent your FFL from going ballistic and calling the cops, or sending it right back. It is illegal for the NYS FFL to sell an POST BAN assault weapon in the state. That gun was mfg after 1994. Hope this helps.

May 07, 2010, 23:00	#8
Lost Kangaroo Registered FALaholic #: 53146 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, NY. Posts: 16	Hey V....the Lithgow Small Arms factory phased out the L1A1 around 1991...I know because I left the Army just as the Aussteyr was being phased in...also built at Lithgow...that was 1993...so if you could please tell me how this rifle is newer than the assault ban...9/14/94...I would like to know..."not trolling" but you made the statement sound like a fact. The Imbel receiver could very well be new...meaning I would need to buy a postban receiver...thats possible...but the rest of the rifle has to be legit. If you know something I dont please share, because I would hate to put my FFL buds on the chopping block. Secondly...the post says that the rifle is compliant...there are things you cant see that go towards the magic 3 US parts...gas piston...gas piston spring...trigger....etc....if the rifle was sold as compliant...it is... I have an AK variant...yes, it has a low cap mag, but it also has a pistol grip, a bayonet lug and a few other "evil" features, including it is way shorter and more easily wielded in confined spaces. If you really know what you are talking about...please educate me. Roo

May 07, 2010, 23:27	#9
Lost Kangaroo Registered FALaholic #: 53146 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, NY. Posts: 16	I talked to the local gunshop and it seems that the laws are hard for them to keep straight.... The owner said that he has a good friend that is a State Trooper and is well versed in the law. He is visiting the shop tomorrow, so I am waiting for a call to find out whats what...

May 07, 2010, 23:50	#11
Lost Kangaroo Registered FALaholic #: 53146 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, NY. Posts: 16	G'day Andy, I was born in Albury, spent my youth between Great Western (vic) and Glen Waverly (vic)....in the Army I was posted to Vic Barracks in Sydney...spent 5 or so years there...lived in Cronulla for 12 or so years...somehow I ended up here.....in Rochester NY...USA....

May 07, 2010, 23:52	#12
Lost Kangaroo Registered FALaholic #: 53146 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, NY. Posts: 16	I spoke with a good friend and he suggested that I have the rifle sent out as parts..I could get everything except the receiver...then I would have to get a receiver sent through my FFL....perhaps the way I need to go

May 08, 2010, 00:02	#14
Lost Kangaroo Registered FALaholic #: 53146 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, NY. Posts: 16	Not since I started growing my own hops and brewing my own beer...but yes...every now and then I will break down and hit up Beers of the World for a six pack of Coopers or New... I looked through the member list and couldnt spot any Rochestarians...do you have names or should I go do it again.

May 08, 2010, 11:44	#16
V guy Registered FALaholic #: 10282 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: miami Posts: 8,206	Just trying to keep people out of the NYS penal system. 3rd degree criminal possession of an illegal assault weapon is a felony. 2 years ago, a local guy was arrested for having a collapsible stock on an AR-15 clone. Felony. He lost all his firearms for life, for just putting on a third evil feature. He was picked up for another minor charge and his weapon was noticed. The whole pre ban-post ban issue is pretty simple in this state. The upper receiver has to be pre ban to have all the evil features, and you may have to prove it. The rest of the parts can be made at anytime, of course. I believe that it also had to be assembled pre '94 and cannot be assembled post '94, but that is tough to prove, maybe. I doubt that it is a pre 94 Imbel receiver, BUT that is a possibility. If you can prove it to your FFL's satisfaction with a letter from Century, good. Remember the 1st Bush ban in '89 of non sporting weapons may also come into play if it is a pre ban, as the SAC-Latta guns ran into that situation, until the expiration of the Fed AWB. The prohibition still applies in NYS, however. Generally the rule here is 2 evil features only. If you buy a kit and sanitize it, and them buy a receiver, the responsibility becomes yours alone, as the FFL is "clean". I would not run the risk of a having a muzzle device that allows for mounting the FAL bayonet or grenade launcher. That allows 5 evil features. In 2003, Century did sell their AWB R1A1 guns with a muzzle compensator and before that, in 1999++--, some L1A1 named guns just with a cut down inch bbl and thumbhole stock. I owned both so that is true. I still have the thumbhole inch stock

May 08, 2010, 21:53	#20
Lost Kangaroo Registered FALaholic #: 53146 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, NY. Posts: 16	Thanks for the info V...like I said...educate me. And yes, I would like to stay away from the penal system, thats why I am being extra careful... Sean

May 09, 2010, 15:26	#23
ACDer Registered FALaholic #: 17106 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 71	Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse-but to be clear- the NY law is basically a copy of the expired federal law. If this rifle is a post 94 rifle, it would need to lose the flashider/bayo lug and muzzle threads, or have a permanently attached non-flashider muzzle device (i.e. a muzzlebrake) to be NY legal. The magazine itself is not "an evil feature" as mentioned above and neutering the pointy end would make it NY legal, again assuming a post 94 rifle. Pre 94 rifles are grandfathered in. there is debate on whether the date of assembly versus receiver manufacture date controls, and to be on the safe side, a prudent person with any doubts would just go ahead and neuter it as described to make it NY legal.. the NY state statute- 22. "Assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher; or (b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or (c) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned; (iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as: (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; (vii) Steyr AUG; (viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street sweeper. (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (A) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (B) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (C) is an antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16);.... (v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this subdivision lawfully possessed prior to September fourteenth, nineteen hundred ninety-four. two

May 09, 2010, 22:14	#25
ceb3 Registered FALaholic #: 46247 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: parkland,fl Posts: 78	son is interested in a fal with wood.(i ahave all aussie on eden looks just like yours and i told him he cant have it til im dead)sold the poyer. like the coachwood better and so does son.real question is if the gun was put together post ban is it 922r compliant (have the requisite number of us parts)im an atoorney so i know a little bit about what it needs to have.it is a nice looking gun.pm me where you are in fla. son and i are both south of the lake -opposite coasts.

May 10, 2010, 16:54	#26
davesrb Registered FALaholic #: 24499 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: north Florida Posts: 1,757	Ok, now that we all know about New York's laws....... All email's and pm's answered. Still available. Davesrb __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.-James Dean In memory of my friend Roger Dunkelbarger. 05-09-2010

May 10, 2010, 20:23	#27
JeffJ Registered FALaholic #: 5212 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 1,972	maybe a dumb question, but is it an inch Imbel receiver?

May 11, 2010, 22:12	#29
davesrb Registered FALaholic #: 24499 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: north Florida Posts: 1,757	Price reduced $100 to $1,300 shipped. Might not go any lower. If it doesn't sell it will just go back in the safe. Davesrb __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.-James Dean In memory of my friend Roger Dunkelbarger. 05-09-2010

May 12, 2010, 21:32	#30
altreco Registered FALaholic #: 44582 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas Fort Worth Texas Posts: 37	That is a frackin' beautiful rifle

May 14, 2010, 03:07	#32
General_Nuisance Registered FALaholic #: 33626 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bedford IN. Posts: 11	Yes it is love the wood __________________ People should not be afraid of their Government. The Government should be afraid of their people.

May 16, 2010, 00:14	#34
davesrb Registered FALaholic #: 24499 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: north Florida Posts: 1,757	BTT __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.-James Dean In memory of my friend Roger Dunkelbarger. 05-09-2010

May 17, 2010, 15:36	#35
rduckwor Registered FALaholic #: 53119 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 68	Well, I can't seem to PM you, but have questions. Could you please email me re: this FAL if available? Perhaps I am too much of an FAL noob. Thanks, RMD rduckwor2006 AT elmore DOT rr DOT com

May 18, 2010, 01:20	#37
PvtJoker Registered FALaholic #: 41679 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TN Posts: 54	Any interest in doing some trading on a CZ97B .45acp pistol and/or a Winchester Model 70 in 7mm Rem Mag plus some cash?

May 19, 2010, 00:15	#39
PvtJoker Registered FALaholic #: 41679 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: TN Posts: 54	No problem Dave; it never hurts to ask...

May 20, 2010, 11:43	#40
gunfanx3 Registered FALaholic #: 20682 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: central texas Posts: 189	L1A1 Bump for a good looking rifle and good seller. gunfanx3

May 21, 2010, 10:22	#41
davesrb Registered FALaholic #: 24499 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: north Florida Posts: 1,757	L1A1 is SOLD pending funds Davesrb __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.-James Dean In memory of my friend Roger Dunkelbarger. 05-09-2010

May 21, 2010, 21:59	#42
LaConservationist IN DENIAL NOT ADDICTED!! Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 42319 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Louisiana Bayous! Posts: 6,379	What is next on the block? Izzy heavy barrel? __________________ In MEMORY of Roger "DUNKRD" Dunkelbarger September 13, 1943 - May 09, 2010 "Any one who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

May 22, 2010, 15:55	#43
rduckwor Registered FALaholic #: 53119 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 68	Great for you! It was a beautiful gun. RMD

May 25, 2010, 22:47	#44
ccg2814 Registered FALaholic #: 53506 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 5	L1A1 Thanks again Dave. The rifle is awesome and looked even better then the pictures portrayed. Dave is a great guy to deal with to any one out there thinking about buying one of the other rifles he might be selling.

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