Sarco Argi Kit

JohnnyReb · October 21, 2009, 21:47

I ordered one of the new Argi kits from Sarco on July 29 and it arrived today. It was well packaged in a heavy duty cardboard box. (that's a new one for Sarco!) All of the parts do indeed look new. The barrel, bolt & carrier, and complete lower appear to be genuine Argi to me, I don't know how to tell on the rest of the parts. As far as I can tell all the parts are there, I'm not familiar with the Argi front sight. The kits do not come with a flash hider or mag. The lower, gas tube, and top cover appear to be painted black, everything else is a nice dark park. The front sight parts are stainless?, or in the white? The only thing they messed up is the pivot pin, they sent two male halves. The barrel hand timed to just past 9 o'clock on my DSA T3 upper. The lower will not close on my upper because of the extra pin on the lower forward of the hammer. I guess I will file a notch in the upper.

On to the picks:

Topbanana · October 21, 2009, 22:04

SWEET!!! SARCO did alright it looks like.

I wouldn't waste your time with trying to get the right pin from them, get it elsewhere.

Slap that on a Type III and post more PICS!

mojo_matic · October 21, 2009, 23:48

Wow, awsome!!! Cutting a notch to clear the pin is doable. I dremeled a nothc out to install an Argy lower on a DSA type III as well.... no problem, just a little time consuming (I was using a Dremel tool after all).

Use the search function, there are images of the cut on FALfiles.

**Thorack** · October 22, 2009, 13:52

Johnny Reb,

Glad you like the kit. So from what I have seen its not matching numbers or unmarked? Makes me wonder if it was refinished by SARCO? Johnny what do you think?

Thorack

JohnnyReb · October 22, 2009, 15:01

The bolt & carrier are matching number. The lower is numbered but a different one. The barred was in a sealed bad and has no number. It has a very faint proof on one of the flats and what looks like an upside down "F" and a backwards "D" on the left side of the gas block.

The finish is way to nice for Sarco to have done it. The barrel has that pristine "cristalline" look to the park, and was dry as a bone. All of the other parts had oil/grease/cosmoline on them.

If I get home early enough, I'll take some more picks in better light.

jugrunner · October 22, 2009, 15:05

this is wonderful news !! ... gobbler will be very happy !! ... he has 2 kits on Big Brown truck ... being delivered today, I think ...

I may have to trade him out of one of 'em ...

JohnnyReb · October 22, 2009, 15:15

Quote:

Originally posted by jugrunner
this is wonderful news !! ... gobbler will be very happy !! ... he has 2 kits on Big Brown truck ... being delivered today, I think ...

I may have to trade him out of one of 'em ...

If either of his kits come with 2 "female" pivot pin pieces, Ill trade him the "male" half!

Whats everyone doing for the flash hider? I'm trying to get Moses to make some Argi copies....

jugrunner · October 22, 2009, 15:43

you guys might want to compare serial #'s of parts, as some of us did in a recent buy of some old Belgian kits ...

I don't believe we matched much but we gave an effort ... never know !!

ETA: Start a sticky ... everyone could list their carrier/bolt/barrel/lower #'s

Squint · October 22, 2009, 17:41

That is a really nice looking kit. I wonder if they ended up with any extra rear sights. I think I'll ask.

**gobbler** · October 22, 2009, 18:14

HOT DAMN!!! Christmas has come early this year & well worth the wait! My two are identical to Johnny Reb's ( but got a male & female pin) & they locked up and match perfectly on the old SAC Latta reciever, not so lucky on my other reciever though. Looks like Johnny & I have the same problem, it lacks about a 32nd pinning together. The lowers look brand new, all of the edges are sharp with no wear at all, just painted. The barrel & HGs new too. Almost messed up though, the small parts bag had a hole in it & half dozen scews & washers fell out in the box, just happened to hear them rattle as I dumped out the peanuts.

**gobbler** · October 22, 2009, 18:33

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnnyReb
The bolt & carrier are matching number. The lower is numbered but a different one. The barred was in a sealed bad and has no number. It has a very faint proof on one of the flats and what looks like an upside down "F" and a backwards "D" on the left side of the gas block.

The finish is way to nice for Sarco to have done it. The barrel has that pristine "cristalline" look to the park, and was dry as a bone. All of the other parts had oil/grease/cosmoline on them.

If I get home early enough, I'll take some more picks in better light.

Looks like the lowers were in their own sealed bag coated iwth cosmo and the parts bags had a small hole where I guess that had inserted the parts they were waiting on. The barrels were in their own sealed bag & dry. My numbers (highlighted white) on the bolts match, but lowers are different

DYNOMIKE · October 22, 2009, 18:46

JohnnyReb~

Looks very nice indeed, most excellent buy I think.....

As far as the FT Sight Post what number is on it?? I have been trying a couple diff sights on my build getting it dialed in using an NOS ARGY barrel as the sights are diff then standard Metric sight posts..

You will also need an Argy Ft Sight tool for adjustment..

JohnnyReb · October 22, 2009, 19:04

Quote:

Originally posted by DYNOMIKE
JohnnyReb~

Looks very nice indeed, most excellent buy I think.....

As far as the FT Sight Post what number is on it?? I have been trying a couple diff sights on my build getting it dialed in using an NOS ARGY barrel as the sights are diff then standard Metric sight posts..

You will also need an Argy Ft Sight tool for adjustment..

It has a "3" on it. Is yours shiney too?

DYNOMIKE · October 22, 2009, 19:52

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnnyReb

It has a "3" on it. Is yours shiney too?

No mine are both parked, one came from Gunthings the other a FAL Filer and both were new.. You should be able to tell easily if the sight is new as the edges on the corners should be sharp and clean..

I had a -2 at first and the gun shot about 6" low so I cranked up the rear sight to (600 meter mark) get her dialed in.. Also the -2 is a short post and tough for me to see very well.. In an effort to get a taller post and not have to move the rear sight to the 600 Meter mark I ordered the "0" sight from Brad.. I can see the post much better but I have to btm it out and put the rear at 400 meter mark to shoot X's using a 6 o'clock hold @ 50 yds....

I can live with this but would like more adj in ft so I'm not sure what I will do at this point?? I have considered using an INDIAN/INCH rear sight or trying a "-1" but that's yet to be decided...

J.Armstrong and I have talked about this a couple/few times and he has a Ft Post Mod I am considering as well.. He suggests taking the shoulder off the Post (you will note the square shoulder) and making it all post, then drilling holes in the base so that a reg sight tool can be used.. Thinking this is a good idea and will prolly do that with the "-2" before I do anything else..

mojo_matic · October 22, 2009, 23:06

You can also use Izzy front sight parts on your Argy gas block.

A little pricey, but you will definitely get her dialed in.... http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...Item=143811787

**nebula8080** · November 03, 2009, 04:31

If anyone doesnt have any use for the argy hammer that came in your kit please let me know. I really need one to finish a build I'm working on.

Thanks -

cwbarg · November 10, 2009, 08:44

You ordered it on July 29 and it came on October 21st. Is 12 weeks a normal delivery time for SARCO? I don't know if I have that much patience.

**gobbler** · November 10, 2009, 08:58

It was well worth the wait

gobbler

1006587 · November 10, 2009, 13:46

Quote:

Originally posted by cwbarg
You ordered it on July 29 and it came on October 21st. Is 12 weeks a normal delivery time for SARCO? I don't know if I have that much patience.

About par for the course for Sarco. If they have something you might want one day, order from them. If they have something you need, it's best to order from somewhere else. I've gotten stuff in 3 days from them once. Only once.

cwbarg · November 12, 2009, 17:16

I called today and asked about the NEW Argentine FAL kits. I talked to a man named Spencer. I asked how long it would be before they shipped it if I ordered today. He said it would be about one to two weeks. I told him I had heard that it took someone 12 weeks to get their FAL kit. I was told that since then they had assembled the parts into kits and were shipping much faster. I ordered one. I can't say I went into it blind. He also said the kits had barrels with the open hole sights to match the height of the rear sight.

JohnnyReb · November 13, 2009, 10:44

Quote:

Originally posted by cwbarg
I called today and asked about the NEW Argentine FAL kits. I talked to a man named Spencer. I asked how long it would be before they shipped it if I ordered today. He said it would be about one to two weeks. I told him I had heard that it took someone 12 weeks to get their FAL kit. I was told that since then they had assembled the parts into kits and were shipping much faster. I ordered one. I can't say I went into it blind. He also said the kits had barrels with the open hole sights to match the height of the rear sight.

When I ordered I was expecting a long wait because it was rumored that Sarco was still waiting for some of the parts to complete the kits. Now that everything is in stock I would expect your's wont take as long. It was worth the wait.

cwbarg · November 20, 2009, 21:19

I ordered my Sarco NEW Argentine FAL kit on the 12th expecting at least a two week wait for it to ship. Sarco shipped the kit on the 17th and I got it today. One week from ordering. It looks just like the pictures JohnnyReb posted. Matching bolt and carrier with different numbered lower. All the parts are new. The hammer has a couple of wear marks like it had been cycled a few times but not fired. All the parts were there except the selector assembly. I'll contact Sarco on that but overall I'm very pleased with this purchase. My thanks to JohnnyReb for his review. Without it and other Falfiles members comments I would probably have passed on it. Thanks guys.

**tedg** · November 21, 2009, 16:28

Hey gobbler, Did any of your parts have matching numbers?

**embatp** · December 03, 2009, 12:51

just got mine in and it is exactly as described above...not heavy on the grease or cosmo but does need a little cleanup...packed as above....use caution for the little pins...my bag was torn as well....all appeared to be there...one week from order to delivery....

bolt and carrier: 01503

lower: 02820

also ordered a para top cover with stanag mount for another project and it looks primo as well....

if you are on the fence i would say these things are worth it...it really looks like a brand new FAL...i missed the last go around on FAL kits....not this time...

are we gonna post our numbers or what????

skoorbman · December 10, 2009, 19:26

Which DSA upper would you recommend for this kit?

jugrunner · December 10, 2009, 19:57

Quote:

Originally posted by skoorbman
Which DSA upper would you recommend for this kit?

the 2 lowers I've seen are Type 3 ...

JohnnyReb · February 04, 2010, 12:33

Quote:

Originally posted by skoorbman
Which DSA upper would you recommend for this kit?

I got a DSA T3 from DunkRD for my kit.

All I have left to do is install the locking shoulder and paint the barreled upper. Moses's Argi fh replica looks great!

BlackWell Industries · February 04, 2010, 12:38

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnnyReb

If either of his kits come with 2 "female" pivot pin pieces, Ill trade him the "male" half!

Whats everyone doing for the flash hider? I'm trying to get Moses to make some Argi copies....

Don't ask don't tell.

Bravoemike · February 07, 2010, 16:49

Muzzle Device

I got an Argy one from Gun Parts Guy!

Bruce ~~___/)~*~

Anyone going to shorten their barrel,
...thinkn' I might?

JohnnyReb · February 07, 2010, 17:10

Quote:

Originally posted by Bravoemike
Muzzle Device

I got an Argy one from Gun Parts Guy!

Bruce ~~___/)~*~

Anyone going to shorten their barrel,
...thinkn' I might?

I see the Imbel listed, but not Argi ones.

**aezcur** · February 07, 2010, 19:20

Quote:

Originally posted by JohnnyReb

I see the Imbel listed, but not Argi ones.

like a month ago I tried to order an Argy flash hider (as a backup

) and it was already sold out.....then he took it out of the webpage. he still have Imbel and Belgian FH in stock.

October 21, 2009, 21:47	#1
JohnnyReb Registered FALaholic #: 12093 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NC & NV Posts: 3,432	Sarco Argi Kit I ordered one of the new Argi kits from Sarco on July 29 and it arrived today. It was well packaged in a heavy duty cardboard box. (that's a new one for Sarco!) All of the parts do indeed look new. The barrel, bolt & carrier, and complete lower appear to be genuine Argi to me, I don't know how to tell on the rest of the parts. As far as I can tell all the parts are there, I'm not familiar with the Argi front sight. The kits do not come with a flash hider or mag. The lower, gas tube, and top cover appear to be painted black, everything else is a nice dark park. The front sight parts are stainless?, or in the white? The only thing they messed up is the pivot pin, they sent two male halves. The barrel hand timed to just past 9 o'clock on my DSA T3 upper. The lower will not close on my upper because of the extra pin on the lower forward of the hammer. I guess I will file a notch in the upper. On to the picks: __________________ One Bank to rule them all, one Bank to find them, one Bank to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

October 21, 2009, 22:04	#2
Topbanana Registered FALaholic #: 20443 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Manhattan, KS Posts: 3,262	SWEET!!! SARCO did alright it looks like. I wouldn't waste your time with trying to get the right pin from them, get it elsewhere. Slap that on a Type III and post more PICS! __________________ God created the Earth, Mauser drew the property lines.

October 22, 2009, 13:52	#4
Thorack Acquisition Corp Dude Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 748 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 5,620	Johnny Reb, Glad you like the kit. So from what I have seen its not matching numbers or unmarked? Makes me wonder if it was refinished by SARCO? Johnny what do you think? Thorack __________________ 1. Whenever you are talking to a woman realize this person was born insane and you will never be surprised. 2. Never let Doctors cut on you unless its life or death and ALWAYS get a second opinion.

October 22, 2009, 15:01	#5
JohnnyReb Registered FALaholic #: 12093 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NC & NV Posts: 3,432	The bolt & carrier are matching number. The lower is numbered but a different one. The barred was in a sealed bad and has no number. It has a very faint proof on one of the flats and what looks like an upside down "F" and a backwards "D" on the left side of the gas block. The finish is way to nice for Sarco to have done it. The barrel has that pristine "cristalline" look to the park, and was dry as a bone. All of the other parts had oil/grease/cosmoline on them. If I get home early enough, I'll take some more picks in better light. __________________ One Bank to rule them all, one Bank to find them, one Bank to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. Last edited by JohnnyReb; October 22, 2009 at 15:12.

October 22, 2009, 15:05	#6
jugrunner Registered FALaholic #: 19911 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,366	this is wonderful news !! ... gobbler will be very happy !! ... he has 2 kits on Big Brown truck ... being delivered today, I think ... I may have to trade him out of one of 'em ... __________________ ... ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ... _____________________________________________ "Remember man as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I. As I am now, so you shall be. Prepare for death and follow me." _____________________________________________ one of the proud "unwashed" ...

October 21, 2009, 23:48	#3
mojo_matic banned - trolling marketplace FALaholic #: 12363 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Carlisle, IN Posts: 3,257	Wow, awsome!!! Cutting a notch to clear the pin is doable. I dremeled a nothc out to install an Argy lower on a DSA type III as well.... no problem, just a little time consuming (I was using a Dremel tool after all). Use the search function, there are images of the cut on FALfiles.

October 22, 2009, 15:43	#8
jugrunner Registered FALaholic #: 19911 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 4,366	you guys might want to compare serial #'s of parts, as some of us did in a recent buy of some old Belgian kits ... I don't believe we matched much but we gave an effort ... never know !! ETA: Start a sticky ... everyone could list their carrier/bolt/barrel/lower #'s __________________ ... ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ... _____________________________________________ "Remember man as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I. As I am now, so you shall be. Prepare for death and follow me." _____________________________________________ one of the proud "unwashed" ...

October 22, 2009, 17:41	#9
Squint Registered FALaholic #: 95 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Goofy part of Virginia Posts: 1,008	That is a really nice looking kit. I wonder if they ended up with any extra rear sights. I think I'll ask. __________________ http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member5581.png

October 22, 2009, 18:14	#10
gobbler Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 44154 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 2,753	HOT DAMN!!! Christmas has come early this year & well worth the wait! My two are identical to Johnny Reb's ( but got a male & female pin) & they locked up and match perfectly on the old SAC Latta reciever, not so lucky on my other reciever though. Looks like Johnny & I have the same problem, it lacks about a 32nd pinning together. The lowers look brand new, all of the edges are sharp with no wear at all, just painted. The barrel & HGs new too. Almost messed up though, the small parts bag had a hole in it & half dozen scews & washers fell out in the box, just happened to hear them rattle as I dumped out the peanuts.

October 22, 2009, 18:46	#12
DYNOMIKE Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 11982 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 13,973	JohnnyReb~ Looks very nice indeed, most excellent buy I think..... As far as the FT Sight Post what number is on it?? I have been trying a couple diff sights on my build getting it dialed in using an NOS ARGY barrel as the sights are diff then standard Metric sight posts.. You will also need an Argy Ft Sight tool for adjustment.. __________________ "If your Gonna DIE, DIE Standing UP"!! The WOLVERINES.......

October 22, 2009, 23:06	#15
mojo_matic banned - trolling marketplace FALaholic #: 12363 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Carlisle, IN Posts: 3,257	You can also use Izzy front sight parts on your Argy gas block. A little pricey, but you will definitely get her dialed in.... http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...Item=143811787

November 03, 2009, 04:31	#16
nebula8080 Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 37665 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 1,345	If anyone doesnt have any use for the argy hammer that came in your kit please let me know. I really need one to finish a build I'm working on. Thanks -

November 10, 2009, 08:44	#17
cwbarg Registered FALaholic #: 47693 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dickinson, Texas Posts: 43	You ordered it on July 29 and it came on October 21st. Is 12 weeks a normal delivery time for SARCO? I don't know if I have that much patience.

November 10, 2009, 08:58	#18
gobbler Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 44154 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 2,753	It was well worth the wait gobbler

November 12, 2009, 17:16	#20
cwbarg Registered FALaholic #: 47693 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dickinson, Texas Posts: 43	I called today and asked about the NEW Argentine FAL kits. I talked to a man named Spencer. I asked how long it would be before they shipped it if I ordered today. He said it would be about one to two weeks. I told him I had heard that it took someone 12 weeks to get their FAL kit. I was told that since then they had assembled the parts into kits and were shipping much faster. I ordered one. I can't say I went into it blind. He also said the kits had barrels with the open hole sights to match the height of the rear sight.

November 20, 2009, 21:19	#22
cwbarg Registered FALaholic #: 47693 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dickinson, Texas Posts: 43	I ordered my Sarco NEW Argentine FAL kit on the 12th expecting at least a two week wait for it to ship. Sarco shipped the kit on the 17th and I got it today. One week from ordering. It looks just like the pictures JohnnyReb posted. Matching bolt and carrier with different numbered lower. All the parts are new. The hammer has a couple of wear marks like it had been cycled a few times but not fired. All the parts were there except the selector assembly. I'll contact Sarco on that but overall I'm very pleased with this purchase. My thanks to JohnnyReb for his review. Without it and other Falfiles members comments I would probably have passed on it. Thanks guys.

November 21, 2009, 16:28	#23
tedg Senior Member Contributor FALaholic #: 37851 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kansas city, Kansas Posts: 846	Hey gobbler, Did any of your parts have matching numbers?

December 03, 2009, 12:51	#24
embatp What? Me AR? Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 39856 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ga. Posts: 1,920	just got mine in and it is exactly as described above...not heavy on the grease or cosmo but does need a little cleanup...packed as above....use caution for the little pins...my bag was torn as well....all appeared to be there...one week from order to delivery.... bolt and carrier: 01503 lower: 02820 also ordered a para top cover with stanag mount for another project and it looks primo as well.... if you are on the fence i would say these things are worth it...it really looks like a brand new FAL...i missed the last go around on FAL kits....not this time... are we gonna post our numbers or what????

December 10, 2009, 19:26	#25
skoorbman Registered FALaholic #: 50842 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: FL Posts: 1	Which DSA upper would you recommend for this kit?

February 07, 2010, 16:49	#29
Bravoemike Registered FALaholic #: 44723 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Carlisle Posts: 173	Muzzle Device I got an Argy one from Gun Parts Guy! Bruce ~~___/)~*~ Anyone going to shorten their barrel, ...thinkn' I might?

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