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Old March 18, 2004, 22:52   #1
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Meeper (Vern Smith) FAL caliber conversions revisited..(bunch of pics. Updated 4-10)

I get a lot of questions from members about these fine quick change caliber conversions for our beloved FAL, and many can't seem to find the info they need.

Therefore, to make it a bit easier, here's a pictorial of the many postings of Meeper regarding his FAL quick change caliber conversions. I've also cut and pasted some of his comments from those posts.

This will make it easy for members to see it all in one place without having to search through many dozens of bits and pieces of Meepers posts to figure it all out. These quick change caliber conversions are flawless performers and are changeable from caliber to caliber in about 30-45 seconds.


Contact info for Vern Smith: (also posting here as "Meeper")
(NOTE: Vern is a complete gunsmith and does far more than just build these fine quick change caliber conversions. He's a journeyman machinist and does FAL, AK work, and refinishing to name just a few. Contact him for any and all gunsmith needs)
HPF Gunsmithing
3889 West 3000 North
Benson,UT 84335
435-753-0663


And by popular demand, here is the pricing Vern posted here on one thread.

This is an old price list so call Vern to update. This old Meeper post is dated July 2003! Also, changes made.....no longer do the pistol calibers require another receiver!


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The prices are as follows:
Large caliber conversions
Using your parts.
Convert to .308 Q-change first one. $150.00
Each additional barrel $75.00
Add for short gas system $25.00
9mm conversion $300.00
Other calibers available:
.243
22-250
22-308
.358

Price to convert these are the same as the above except for the price of the barrrel blank and labor to turn to Fal configuration. I usually price on an indivdual basis. No one seems to want the same thing. There are no receiver mod on the above conversions.

We also offer medium caliber conversions.
.223
7.62x39
5.45x39
We offer them with AR or AK mag option. AK is highly recomended if using 7.62x39. The prices are the same as above except you have to have a mag adapter also. There are slight receiver mods on these conversions.

We will not convert any Fal without having the receiver!!! (except 9mm)
As of yet we are not offering large caliber and med caliber conversions in the same receiver.
I hope this answers your questions. Vern
And in Meeper's response to one members questions about "why"...and another member chimes in to offer his take on it :

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No attempt at a flame here. I just don't understand the purpose of taking a main battle rifle and trying to chamber it in a handgun caliber, or 7.62x39, or whatever. Doesn't that make it fundamentally not what you originally liked it for? Just curious.



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I assume that the purpose is mostly for fun and profit.

And Meeper response........

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Damn, that's a pretty good question. I've never used a Fal for defense and hope I never have to. I don't really do much hunting. I don't use a FAL in my line of work. I do change alot of Fal's from .308 to about any other caliber. As for doing it for profit. HA HA I have spent almost 5 times the money on Fal parts and R&D than I have made off converting calibers on Fals.
So I guess it comes down to I enjoy doing it. It's quite fun to go shooting and shoot 6 differnt calibers from the same rifle. You get quite the looks not to mention the questions.
Changing calibers gives you so much flexibality in one rifle.
I guess it comes down to I like to shoot. I like different calibers. And I like the Fal. To have all three you need to change calibers in the Fal.
Vern



Now to the Meeper quick change caliber conversion pictorial. ENJOY!

Number 1 is the .308 9mm quick change conversion:
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Number 2

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Number 3 is the 9mm conversion...
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Number 4 is the .50 Beo conversion....
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Number 5 is the .45acp conversion....
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Number 6 shows the different quick change barrels in a myriad of calibers...


(this list is outdated now. He also offers 7.62x25 and a host of new calibers like 10mm, .50 Beowulf and more)
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Number 7 shows some cool PPS-43 magazines showing the pistol rounds loaded.....
(he makes a magwell conversion for these that can be easily removed for standard .308 mag loading in that .308 conversion)
9x19, 9x23, 7.62x25 and .45acp....in no specific order.
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Number 8 shows a bunch of FAL magwell adapters in a variety of magazines....
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Number 9 shows a .223 conversion....
(thanks to terral...this is his .223)
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Many thanks to Vern Smith for developing this FAL quick change caliber system. I hope you enjoyed this pictorial!

Call Vern for details and pricing for the quick change caliber conversion of YOUR dreams!

I have a quick change caliber system in the works in .308, 7.62x25, .223 and .50 Beo (Beowulf) and the parts are in Verns hands just today.

Thanks Vern!



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Forgot....

Vern doesn't ONLY work on FAL's.

Here's an AK in .50 Beowulf.

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Look real close at this one it is a finished receiver casting. Notice it is sectioned in the mag well area. The bolt and bolt carrier is also shortened.

(see the other pictures in this sequence)

This is Vern's personal FAL and not for sale. This project took him 3 months to complete. This is NOT an option available to us.
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Another shot...same rifle
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Now field stripped...
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And finally, the shortened bolt and carrier. Now THAT is gunsmithing!


OH.....and to all you current Meeper quick change owners.....please feel free to post pictures here. Closeups of the threaded conversion thingie and any other closeups showing how it hooks together would be cool and help other members to understand just how this magical system works.



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I posted in one of Rhineland1's threads saying that he should consider the 7.62x25 because it just seemed like a logical choice for a conversion, it looks like meeper beat him to it. Hopefully I'll be able to afford one soon.

MMMM 7.62x25 on a para stock w/ 16" barrel goodness, that kinda makes me tingle.
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I posted in one of Rhineland1's threads saying that he should consider the 7.62x25 because it just seemed like a logical choice for a conversion, it looks like meeper beat him to it. Hopefully I'll be able to afford one soon.

MMMM 7.62x25 on a para stock w/ 16" barrel goodness, that kinda makes me tingle.
Makes me tingle too MudBug. The thought of .223 Timbs ammo rocketing out of a 16" Fal barrel at over 2300 fps is enough to get anyones blood boiling.

The 7.62x25 conversion is what got me started on this Meeper conversion quest.

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hey mark,
trying to piece the cost here together.... ???
whats the total to get one just like an original as pictured below in 223 ?
trying to justify it, when funds become available, so i can keep this one in the safe ..
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hey mark,
trying to piece the cost here together.... ???
whats the total to get one just like an original as pictured below in 223 ?
trying to justify it, when funds become available, so i can keep this one in the safe ..
Ya got me Mark. Best to call Vern to see about pricing for the different options. Just a .223 straight build might not set you back too much. I'm sure he does fixed barrel .223's too.
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The thought of .223 Timbs ammo rocketing out of a 16" Fal barrel at over 2300 fps is enough to get anyones blood boiling.

The 7.62x25 conversion is what got me started on this Meeper conversion quest.

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please post a range report as soon as you get that bad boy up and running.7.62x25 is the only pistol round i have and it would be awsome to shoot that out of a rifle.
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please post a range report as soon as you get that bad boy up and running.7.62x25 is the only pistol round i have and it would be awsome to shoot that out of a rifle.
Will do masman. I'll do a complete range report on all 4 conversions as soon as they get in my hands. I'll do a 4 caliber range report in one day with a photo spread and all. I will also include closeup photos of the quick change process so everyone can see just how these actually work.

Vern has my parts as we speak.

If any current Meeper owners can post closeup photos here of the receiver adapter showing how the barrels hook up...that would be cool too.

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For you 7.62x25 lovers...

Go here for super ammo from Quality Cartridge company:

http://www.owlnet.com/quality/index.html

(not the cheapes out there but the only company specializing in hi performance ammo for the CZ52. Great ammo! They will also give you quotes on any custom loads you desire.)
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Well I finally got all my parts together and I think I made my final decisions. I was gonna go with the 10mm caliber conversion, but then FWRA got me thinking on the .50 BEO. Then I started thinking about it as well and reading up. I think I will be going for the .308, .223 and .50 BEO. This way I have just one mag conversion to go through. I could add the 10mm, but that's one more mag conversion and then mags, etc... FWRA, if you don't mind shoot me a PM and let me know what the "round about" price of your whole conversion is going to be. It really comes down to having enough money! The reason being, I also have another reciever that I am going to do the AK conversion (7.62, 5.45 and 5.56) with and I know that will set me back about $800+. But wow what a combination I will have when both are done. I am sure I will be "satisfied" for a few months at least!
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Well I finally got all my parts together and I think I made my final decisions. I was gonna go with the 10mm caliber conversion, but then FWRA got me thinking on the .50 BEO. Then I started thinking about it as well and reading up. I think I will be going for the .308, .223 and .50 BEO. This way I have just one mag conversion to go through. I could add the 10mm, but that's one more mag conversion and then mags, etc... FWRA, if you don't mind shoot me a PM and let me know what the "round about" price of your whole conversion is going to be. It really comes down to having enough money! The reason being, I also have another reciever that I am going to do the AK conversion (7.62, 5.45 and 5.56) with and I know that will set me back about $800+. But wow what a combination I will have when both are done. I am sure I will be "satisfied" for a few months at least!
Hi edblevi!

You made a fine choice there but best to call Vern for your final price. Each option has a direct bearing on price so talking to Vern (Meeper) is your best bet.
No two conversions are ever exactly the same.......believe me. Vern's doing some different stuff for me.

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Mark,

Where are you going to get your ammo for the 50beo from? Are you going to reload? Since I think I found a place that sells the stuff for around 20.00 a box and midwayusa is going to start to carry it soon too.

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Mark,

Where are you going to get your ammo for the 50beo from? Are you going to reload? Since I think I found a place that sells the stuff for around 20.00 a box and midwayusa is going to start to carry it soon too.

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Hi Anthony.

No reloading for this Old Fart. I'll buy commercial ammo from Vern and wherever else I can find it. I also have a friend right down the street from me with a gunshop that sells it.

A buck a round? Worth every cent!

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Is he still offering a .223 conversion utilizing the USGI M16 type lockup? Does anyone know?
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Vern offers both the AR and AK style of lock up for .223. When I spoke with him last all of the conversions are now quick-change.

He likes the short gas system also. Mine should be leaving next week if I can get everything together. Alot of people seem to be lowballing this and I think it is fair to say that if you supply all the parts the cost will be $500+
over that for one conversion.

If you pick your calibers so you only use one (or none) mag adaptor then the cost of 2 drops alot.

So lets take a look at where Im at: Fal Kit. $165
DSA Hanguards. $ 50
WAC Upper. $150
DSA lower. $100
US Stock. $ 40
Conversion. $500?

This is for a .223 Conversion using AK mags. All in all I think this is a very small $$ amount for the work that goes into one of his creations.
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Yep. .223 is either M16 mag with removable adapter, or with AK mags with fixed adapter. If your conversion is 5.45x39, 7.62x39 and .223 then AK mags are the only ones that work reliably and Vern uses those with the receiver altered for that fixed adapter.

That's why you have to call Vern for pricing. Many different options and many different calibers.

Regarding lowballing the pricing, I really haven't seen pricing mentioned other than his original pricing (old) and that's why I stressed calling Vern for a quote.
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So, I kinda get how these barrels attach. Two questions however:
One, what kind of accuracy can one expect with this system since barrel to receiver fit is basically slip-fit.
Second, and most important, is since the barrel slips in wouldn't headspace be affected if it doesn't go in absolutely perfect? A couple thou' would make a difference and all it would take is a little carbon or dirt or something to prevent the barrel from seating all the way. I don't see a problem with this system with guns that have a bolt to barrel lockup but the FAL locks up with the receiver. I guess I'm just wondering how headspace can be maintained?
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I think I'll let the guys that have these answer that one.
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I think I'll let the guys that have these answer that one.
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And in my case that will just be about two weeks.

I'll take some close up photos for all to see how these barrels fit. These have a keyway and the collar has a flat for tightening down the final 1/4 turn or so with a wrench to insure perfect fit. There are a bunch of these out there and I wish other owners could post some pictures.

Right Vern? At least I think that's right....

You'll all get to see my conversion set from every closeup imaginable and accuracy? You'll get that report first hand too.

Fal conversions....yep, Vern has done a bunch. He's also done conversions you never hear about as well. But I'll leave that for Vern to talk about. Seems another member here has a unique Meeper conversion that works like a dream.

Vern? You sir are an genius when it comes to caliber conversions.



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Meeper is the man. He did my Galil switch barrel conversion in 7.62 X39mm, 5.45 X 39mm and of course the original caliber, 5.56mm.

Here is the link to my rifle on Valmet-Weapons web page.

SAKO M92 CLONE (GALIL) SWITCH BARREL

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Hi Hector,
Vern told me about your Galil conversion and it was the one I alluded to when I mentioned the "other" conversion.

Very nice!

Thanks for the photos.

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Accuracy and reliability have been excellent in the last year I've had mine.
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Accuracy and reliability have been excellent in the last year I've had mine.
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Can you share pictures?
Closeups of the quick change barrel hookup would be most appreciated. What kind of accuracy are you getting?

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no, you really need to call him.
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Well I have my upper and parts there with Vern as we speak as well. I'm getting the .308/.223/50 Beo, so in any case this will be very interesting. I am looking forward to getting this bad little boy back, big time!!!!
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Well I have my upper and parts there with Vern as we speak as well. I'm getting the .308/.223/50 Beo, so in any case this will be very interesting. I am looking forward to getting this bad little boy back, big time!!!!
Mines leaving for Ohio on Wed. I'll post a bunch of closeup pictures when this bad boy comes home!


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I didn't see any mention if the barrels are chrome-lined or not. Can anyone shed some light on that?


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Most of the caliber conversion barrels are turned from blanks. They are not chrome lined. A few of the .308 barrels are chrome lined.
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WOW! Thanks for the quick answer.

Just to show my ignorance I will ask another question. How is the chrome lining added to barrels?


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I don't know, must be magic. I think it is a hard electro plating process but I don't how they just get it on the inside of the barrel.
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I don't know, must be magic. I think it is a hard electro plating process but I don't how they just get it on the inside of the barrel.
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Well, I can add nothing to the chrome lined barrel question, but regarding "must be magic"?

You just described your FAL caliber conversion Vern!

It MUST be magic the way you get these fine conversions in the hands of diehard Fal-a-holics like me.




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Vern,

I talked with you Monday afternoon about a conversion and stated that I would like to use sten mags for my 9mm conversion. However, I think I would prefer HK HK94 straight 30 rounders. Can you make a magwell adapter for this mag or does it need to be sten? Thanks.



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