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german flecktarn flack vest
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This has been discussed numerous times. These vests are for flak, which is shrapnel. They do not stop ballistic projectiles. Do not use it as a bullet proof vest. You will spring a leak if shot while wearing it. They are not cheap alternatives to bullet proof vests.
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Stop what you're doing and start over.
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As Sham-Wow Vince sez..."they're made in Germany,everybody knows the Germans make great stuff...."
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Good thing he didn't tangle with a German prostitute!!!
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I know that people have tested them and successfully stopped 9mm (some of the time), 40 S&W, and 45ACP. As others here have noted they are still not a bullet-proof vest. Better than wearing nothing? Sure. I have one and its comfortable. There is a site where you can order old kevlar panels for "testing" for about $25 and I plan on sewing a set into the inside of my flectarn as added insurance. I may add a plate carrier and plate at some point. It beats wearing a t-shirt, but don't think it makes you invincible. It's still not the equivalent of a real $300-$500 body armor set. Doesn't mean it's not worth doing if that what you can afford.
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I opened up a shoulder insert and counted 14 layers of Kevlar.
I am going to fire NATO/mil spec 9mm fmj at the shoulder insert and see if it is stoped today. I will try one layer then two. |
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Why not just go to Galls and buy a real, new vest? I got a lightweight, extended coverage Level II with a plate carrier for $179! Do it right, or don't do it. Why would you take a chance that something "might" work when it'll just get you killed? If you want to wear two heavy vests, just get IIIA with SAPI plates.
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I sacrificed two shoulder inserts (out of four) to see if a NATO 9mm fmj and a 7.62x25mm would penetrate two layers of the german flecktarn flak vest.
First the 9mm, I folded the shoulder inserts in half so there were two layers of insert and shot it from about 10 feet and had a stack of news print behind. The bullet cut threw 4 layers of the 14 on one side and pushed the other 10 into the other side, the back of the second side had a protrusion but it was as round as a 25% of a ping pong ball. ![]() I hit the shoulder insert two times and the other shot did not stop until it was almost threw the second side, but it was one inch off of the edge and the Kevlar was disrupted and was pulled apart, I believe that the Kevlar is unsafe if hit on the edge, because it is not stitched on the cut edge of the Kevlar layers that are making up the inserts. The 7.62x25mm fmj from a CZ52 at about 10 feet with surplus ammo. It cut threw the first layer of the insert like butter but was stopped with the second side. The bullet did push the Kevlar threw the back cover of the insert into the news print about one inch. 7.62x25mm are known to defeat the level IIa bullet proof vests. ![]() |
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You asked for it to be Brought.. it was.
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