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November 15, 2014, 15:35
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Ol'Dirty EARNED this carbon build up.
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Telega 1st mess and maintence Bn.  http://www.1streconbnassociation.org/ SEMPER FIDELIS  "There are no evil weapons,,only men with evil intensions." Last edited by E5c03; November 15, 2014 at 16:58. |
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November 15, 2014, 16:11
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Several thoughts:
I think you should forward this thread and, all the photos to FN. Maybe they'll reward you with a left over 50.00 they have laying around in appreciation for demonstrating just how awesome the design still is. Maybe pay you big bucks to do a commercial for them. Auction off chunks of carbon chiseled off of ol' Dirty here on the Falfiles for additional ammo purchase to see how far it'll really go. Special addition carbon chunk sealed in polymer, serialized and, autographed by James could do well on the auction block. Payment option in equivalent ammo to dollar ratio. Just trying to help out with ol' Dirties retirement portfolio.   
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November 15, 2014, 17:40
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November 15, 2014, 17:49
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Looks like the carbon might be holding the whole thing together at this point... Never clean it!
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November 15, 2014, 18:51
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Jeff-"The world needs more Rhodies"! rbgonoles-"This old gal is fated for some poop paint once she's twisted up". |
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November 15, 2014, 19:07
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What does the bore look like?
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November 15, 2014, 19:45
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December 09, 2014, 16:25
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I'm sure that some of the guys over at the Fort Benning weapons pool would dunk that rifle in one of the half 55 gal drums filled w/ the mixture of solvent and oil and God knows what else and after 15min w/ a steel brush, have that weapon shinning
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December 09, 2014, 19:22
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Is there any chance that with so much carbon and junk clogging up all over the place that there could be a hazard to shoot this still?
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December 20, 2014, 00:04
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I shot 7,000 rounds through a stock 10/22 before its first cleaning. Funny thing is after cleaned it did not shoot any better clean than dirty. I have an AR 15 that has not been cleaned in over 20 years, not kept up with rounds fired but guess its in the 10,000 plus range and has just started giving trouble. I believe it needs a new buffer and spring rather than cleaning. Going to swap those out before reverting to an actual bath. I hate cleaning guns and except for nice customs, avoid like plauge. My favorite 1911 comp gun gets 100 rounds a week minimum and has not been cleaned in a couple years. A little lubrication when start to feel like beginning to drag a bit and keep shooting.
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December 21, 2014, 10:21
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Old Dirty is definitely one for the record books, anybody know the number for Guinness?
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January 06, 2015, 03:04
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I don't scrub my ARs either. And I shoot cast bullets in them. |
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January 06, 2015, 03:39
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James,
Being how I just recently moved to Jacksonville, I will bribe you with a steak dinner if I can be photographed taking just one shot out of Ol' Dirty. Few people get to shoot a legend. I would like to be one of them. |
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January 13, 2015, 09:05
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Am I misremembering something else, or did you cave and clean her at some point, then start over?
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January 24, 2015, 17:10
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January 25, 2015, 00:05
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Ya know, the only bad thing about this Ol' Dirty legend is that it basically means James cannot shoot corrosive ammo in it. I mean even a beautiful, pristine early Belgian could be shot with corrosive as long as it gets a good cleaning afterwards. But Ol' Dirty? Nope. The corrosive salts would not respect the history nor the legend. It would have to be cleaned, and Ol' Dirty would revert to being just another well-worn FAL.
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September 11, 2015, 01:51
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December 29, 2015, 12:02
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So, what's the count brass count? Any current photos?
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December 29, 2015, 13:33
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Come to the river shoot in January with your pocket full of ammo and you might get the chance to add to Ol' Dirty's total.
Just bring some old clothes and glasses!!
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May 07, 2016, 12:23
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I'd like to request an update on Ol' Dirty's round count. The last update James posted was a batch of pictures dated August 2014, and I hope there's been some--or even a lot of--shootin' since then.
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May 28, 2016, 21:31
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I'm with TN ANDY Ol' Dirty needs to be shown with current round count...
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September 24, 2016, 09:42
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Earth to James, earth to James. SITREP please, over.
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A 9 mm "might" expand A 45 will NEVER shrink!! |
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September 24, 2016, 19:57
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For some reason it reminds me of Willie Nelson's guitar...
http://apps.startribune.com/blogs/us...91_wguitar.jpg |
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December 18, 2016, 14:54
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March 23, 2017, 09:46
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 Did Ol' Dirty get cleaned? Did it blow up? Is James still with us? Whazzup?
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March 23, 2017, 10:46
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Which proves your FAL will outlive you - or at least will outlive your interest in trying to prove who will live longer
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March 23, 2017, 11:02
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Wow, reading this thread is like a walk through FAL Files history!!!!
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May 14, 2017, 03:50
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Love to peruse this thread from time to time!
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May 14, 2017, 06:35
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I too would love to know how it looks right now
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May 15, 2017, 18:30
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May 15, 2017, 19:12
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i too still peruse this thread from time to time. i send it to all my AR buddies for fun. keep the pics coming!
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May 15, 2017, 19:21
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So, do we have a current round count?
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May 15, 2017, 23:52
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I'm wondering about the key-holing that was reported earlier. It may have worn the barrel out - with or without the "dirtiness". And if that is the case, he probably doesn't shoot it much anymore - not that fun to shoot (or spend the money on the ammo) when the results are so unpredictable.
But I, for one, would give a re-barrel a complete 'pass', since we expect a barrel to wear out sometime, and its replacement will not affect the wear or the dirtiness of most of the gun - or the function test that is currently of interest to everyone here. James - my offer still stands to contribute ammo and/or cash to the ongoing test.
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June 25, 2017, 00:12
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Ok I don't know what the last round count was that I posted or when I posted it but right now it's about 16,800 plus a 100 or so. Sometimes I forget to write down how many I shot that day. Dirty is kind of in hibernation as I haven't been shooting it much.
Still functions fine. Only question is how good is the bore? I guess I should put it on paper to see where it's shooting. James
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June 25, 2017, 01:06
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Ol' Dirty needed to be pointed out to me the times I saw her. Truly an unassuming ol' girl for being so famous and all.
On being offered to shoot her, I politely declined. I couldn't live with myself if I'd ended up being "that guy". 
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June 25, 2017, 16:56
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Please post some groups, I'm really curious how it must shoot right now.
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July 02, 2017, 08:08
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Looks like my photos are still showing up on page 9. I pay a small fee on Photobucket so maybe that is the reason. Not sure how long they will be there.
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July 04, 2017, 07:21
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December 03, 2017, 12:01
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Has old dirty gotten to the 17,000rd count? Just amazing!
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December 09, 2017, 18:23
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SITREP on Ol' Dirty:
Last night at dinner, James told me Ol’ Dirty was at 16,800 rounds without a cleaning. Today at the North Texas shoot, James let me run her up to 16,820 I can personally vouch that Ol Dirty can still run through a 20 round mag without a hiccup, and (when I did my part) can routinely hit a 6" steel plate at 100 yards. I was blessed with the opportunity to handle an FAL legend. Thank you sincerely James! 
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December 09, 2017, 20:35
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Can anyone post a link to the original blog, I can’t seem to find it anymore:-(
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December 09, 2017, 21:54
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Original blog? Start at the first page of this thread.
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Actually I started the original thread that Randy made his from. I see someone went and dug it up and it's now showing. Original title was from "Do I need to clean my rifle after 5000 rds.
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January 16, 2018, 21:06
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Bump for an update James?
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April 10, 2018, 18:21
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The weather is getting nice, time to go shooting.
Any updates?
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Bump for an update! Does anyone know of an HK91 thread like this? Them beasts get filthy........
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May 07, 2018, 12:14
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Like to see that test. I can say I've had a real 91 come to a stop at around 1200 rds with gummed up rollers. Old dirty is king!
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