The Tale of Ol' Dirty. A Texas Legend. (Update: over 16,000 rnds fired w/o cleaning) - Page 10

E5c03 · November 15, 2014, 15:35

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Originally Posted by hkshooter

Those pics are horrific. I vote that Dirty gets a strip down and complete cleaning and rebuild. The rifle has proven it's point many times over by now and deserves a glorious and gently used retirement. The lesson is over and this thread stands as testament as to the design's longevity and this rifles history. No more can be learned or proved.
I see retirement and pics of the rebuilt and refinished rifle as a suiting end to this incredible story.

Not only BLASPHEMY,,,would you strip the Battle Ribbons off a Veteran?
Ol'Dirty EARNED this carbon build up.

Pluribus · November 15, 2014, 16:11

Several thoughts:

I think you should forward this thread and, all the photos to FN. Maybe they'll reward you with a left over 50.00 they have laying around in appreciation for demonstrating just how awesome the design still is. Maybe pay you big bucks to do a commercial for them.

Auction off chunks of carbon chiseled off of ol' Dirty here on the Falfiles for additional ammo purchase to see how far it'll really go. Special addition carbon chunk sealed in polymer, serialized and, autographed by James could do well on the auction block. Payment option in equivalent ammo to dollar ratio.

Just trying to help out with ol' Dirties retirement portfolio.

Cozmacozmy · November 15, 2014, 17:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pluribus

Several thoughts:

I think you should forward this thread and, all the photos to FN. Maybe they'll reward you with a left over 50.00 they have laying around in appreciation for demonstrating just how awesome the design still is. Maybe pay you big bucks to do a commercial for them.

Auction off chunks of carbon chiseled off of ol' Dirty here on the Falfiles for additional ammo purchase to see how far it'll really go. Special addition carbon chunk sealed in polymer, serialized and, autographed by James could do well on the auction block. Payment option in equivalent ammo to dollar ratio.

Just trying to help out with ol' Dirties retirement portfolio.

That is actually a really cool idea!

EPC WN · November 15, 2014, 17:49

Looks like the carbon might be holding the whole thing together at this point... Never clean it!

Cozmacozmy · November 15, 2014, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by EPC WN

Looks like the carbon might be holding the whole thing together at this point... Never clean it!

Kinda like my truck... I'm afraid to wash it or all the rust holding it together might get confused and fall apart on me!

Bruce Allen · November 15, 2014, 19:07

What does the bore look like?

Pluribus · November 15, 2014, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Allen

What does the bore look like?

Yeah, I'd love to see a pic of that too. Is it so carbon packed that the rifling is indistinguishable I wonder?

ghf · December 09, 2014, 16:25

I'm sure that some of the guys over at the Fort Benning weapons pool would dunk that rifle in one of the half 55 gal drums filled w/ the mixture of solvent and oil and God knows what else and after 15min w/ a steel brush, have that weapon shinning

Cozmacozmy · December 09, 2014, 19:22

Is there any chance that with so much carbon and junk clogging up all over the place that there could be a hazard to shoot this still?

hueyville · December 20, 2014, 00:04

I shot 7,000 rounds through a stock 10/22 before its first cleaning. Funny thing is after cleaned it did not shoot any better clean than dirty. I have an AR 15 that has not been cleaned in over 20 years, not kept up with rounds fired but guess its in the 10,000 plus range and has just started giving trouble. I believe it needs a new buffer and spring rather than cleaning. Going to swap those out before reverting to an actual bath. I hate cleaning guns and except for nice customs, avoid like plauge. My favorite 1911 comp gun gets 100 rounds a week minimum and has not been cleaned in a couple years. A little lubrication when start to feel like beginning to drag a bit and keep shooting.

**Straight Shooter** · December 21, 2014, 10:21

Old Dirty is definitely one for the record books, anybody know the number for Guinness?

Wecsogery · January 06, 2015, 03:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by hueyville

I shot 7,000 rounds through a stock 10/22 before its first cleaning. Funny thing is after cleaned it did not shoot any better clean than dirty. I have an AR 15 that has not been cleaned in over 20 years, not kept up with rounds fired but guess its in the 10,000 plus range and has just started giving trouble. I believe it needs a new buffer and spring rather than cleaning. Going to swap those out before reverting to an actual bath. I hate cleaning guns and except for nice customs, avoid like plauge. My favorite 1911 comp gun gets 100 rounds a week minimum and has not been cleaned in a couple years. A little lubrication when start to feel like beginning to drag a bit and keep shooting.

A friend of mine has an AR-15 he has never cleaned. He has about 4,000 rounds through it and says he is not gonna clean it unless/until it gives problems.

I don't scrub my ARs either. And I shoot cast bullets in them.

RetiredNSmilin308 · January 06, 2015, 03:39

James,
Being how I just recently moved to Jacksonville, I will bribe you with a steak dinner if I can be photographed taking just one shot out of Ol' Dirty.

Few people get to shoot a legend. I would like to be one of them.

Parakitteh · January 13, 2015, 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

Here are some photos taken today 8/9/2014. Round count is approximately 16,500.

-images snipped-

James

Only 16,500? I was sure it had been 20,000 in the thread title and pushing 35k by like, a year or two ago.
Am I misremembering something else, or did you cave and clean her at some point, then start over?

sledgehammer · January 24, 2015, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetiredNSmilin308

James,
Being how I just recently moved to Jacksonville, I will bribe you with a steak dinner if I can be photographed taking just one shot out of Ol' Dirty.

Few people get to shoot a legend. I would like to be one of them.

James lives in Cedar Hill. I live and work in Jacksonville at the Gun Shop. James does visit from time to time and would probably be glad to let you shoot the rifle sometime.

Randy

Wecsogery · January 25, 2015, 00:05

Ya know, the only bad thing about this Ol' Dirty legend is that it basically means James cannot shoot corrosive ammo in it. I mean even a beautiful, pristine early Belgian could be shot with corrosive as long as it gets a good cleaning afterwards. But Ol' Dirty? Nope. The corrosive salts would not respect the history nor the legend. It would have to be cleaned, and Ol' Dirty would revert to being just another well-worn FAL.

SWOHFAL · September 11, 2015, 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wecsogery

Ya know, the only bad thing about this Ol' Dirty legend is that it basically means James cannot shoot corrosive ammo in it. I mean even a beautiful, pristine early Belgian could be shot with corrosive as long as it gets a good cleaning afterwards. But Ol' Dirty? Nope. The corrosive salts would not respect the history nor the legend. It would have to be cleaned, and Ol' Dirty would revert to being just another well-worn FAL.

How much NATO 7.62 x 51mm ammo is corrosive?

**Straight Shooter** · December 29, 2015, 12:02

So, what's the count brass count? Any current photos?

Sig220 · December 29, 2015, 13:33

Come to the river shoot in January with your pocket full of ammo and you might get the chance to add to Ol' Dirty's total.

Just bring some old clothes and glasses!!

**TNAndy** · May 07, 2016, 12:23

I'd like to request an update on Ol' Dirty's round count. The last update James posted was a batch of pictures dated August 2014, and I hope there's been some--or even a lot of--shootin' since then.

hickman · May 28, 2016, 21:31

I'm with TN ANDY Ol' Dirty needs to be shown with current round count...

Invictus77 · September 24, 2016, 09:42

Earth to James, earth to James. SITREP please, over.

jhend170 · September 24, 2016, 19:57

For some reason it reminds me of Willie Nelson's guitar...

http://apps.startribune.com/blogs/us...91_wguitar.jpg

machinegunner · December 18, 2016, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Monster

Best thread ever, more pictures please what does the chamber area look like or the inside of the barrel?

Real men always fry bacon naked

real men don't fry bacon. that's for wimin. but it is best when they do it naked.

**TNAndy** · March 23, 2017, 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNAndy

I'd like to request an update on Ol' Dirty's round count. The last update James posted was a batch of pictures dated August 2014, and I hope there's been some--or even a lot of--shootin' since then.

It's been almost a year and all I hear is...

Did Ol' Dirty get cleaned? Did it blow up? Is James still with us? Whazzup?

**W.E.G.** · March 23, 2017, 10:46

Which proves your FAL will outlive you - or at least will outlive your interest in trying to prove who will live longer

flejl · March 23, 2017, 11:02

Wow, reading this thread is like a walk through FAL Files history!!!!

**adamweinerog** · May 14, 2017, 03:50

Love to peruse this thread from time to time!

raubvogel · May 14, 2017, 06:35

I too would love to know how it looks right now

hkshooter · May 15, 2017, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.E.G.

Which proves your FAL will outlive you - or at least will outlive your interest in trying to prove who will live longer

Bet we'll never see a similar SCAR thread.

thewalk · May 15, 2017, 19:12

i too still peruse this thread from time to time. i send it to all my AR buddies for fun. keep the pics coming!

FAL, the original black rifle.

spartacus2002 · May 15, 2017, 19:21

So, do we have a current round count?

**brunop** · May 15, 2017, 23:52

I'm wondering about the key-holing that was reported earlier. It may have worn the barrel out - with or without the "dirtiness". And if that is the case, he probably doesn't shoot it much anymore - not that fun to shoot (or spend the money on the ammo) when the results are so unpredictable.

But I, for one, would give a re-barrel a complete 'pass', since we expect a barrel to wear out sometime, and its replacement will not affect the wear or the dirtiness of most of the gun - or the function test that is currently of interest to everyone here.

James - my offer still stands to contribute ammo and/or cash to the ongoing test.

James · June 25, 2017, 00:12

Ok I don't know what the last round count was that I posted or when I posted it but right now it's about 16,800 plus a 100 or so. Sometimes I forget to write down how many I shot that day. Dirty is kind of in hibernation as I haven't been shooting it much.

Still functions fine. Only question is how good is the bore? I guess I should put it on paper to see where it's shooting.

James

**ExCdnSoldierInTx** · June 25, 2017, 01:06

Ol' Dirty needed to be pointed out to me the times I saw her. Truly an unassuming ol' girl for being so famous and all.
On being offered to shoot her, I politely declined. I couldn't live with myself if I'd ended up being "that guy".

hairygreek · June 25, 2017, 16:56

Please post some groups, I'm really curious how it must shoot right now.

James · July 02, 2017, 08:08

Looks like my photos are still showing up on page 9. I pay a small fee on Photobucket so maybe that is the reason. Not sure how long they will be there.

James

d762nato · July 04, 2017, 07:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeroscout

Pelvic thrust and repeat........bumpin the sticky yo!

GO DIRTY!!!

C2A1 · December 03, 2017, 12:01

Has old dirty gotten to the 17,000rd count? Just amazing!

Invictus77 · December 09, 2017, 18:23

SITREP on Ol' Dirty:

Last night at dinner, James told me Ol’ Dirty was at 16,800 rounds without a cleaning.

Today at the North Texas shoot, James let me run her up to 16,820

I can personally vouch that Ol Dirty can still run through a 20 round mag without a hiccup, and (when I did my part) can routinely hit a 6" steel plate at 100 yards.

I was blessed with the opportunity to handle an FAL legend. Thank you sincerely James!

thedishdoc · December 09, 2017, 20:35

Can anyone post a link to the original blog, I can’t seem to find it anymore:-(

hkshooter · December 09, 2017, 21:54

Original blog? Start at the first page of this thread.

James · December 09, 2017, 22:11

Actually I started the original thread that Randy made his from. I see someone went and dug it up and it's now showing. Original title was from "Do I need to clean my rifle after 5000 rds.

James

Quote:

Originally Posted by hkshooter

Original blog? Start at the first page of this thread.

SmokeEater2 · January 16, 2018, 21:06

Bump for an update James?

WESOMATIC · April 10, 2018, 18:21

The weather is getting nice, time to go shooting.
Any updates?

November 15, 2014, 16:11	#452
Pluribus Registered FALaholic #: 5600 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wichita, America Posts: 5,833	Several thoughts: I think you should forward this thread and, all the photos to FN. Maybe they'll reward you with a left over 50.00 they have laying around in appreciation for demonstrating just how awesome the design still is. Maybe pay you big bucks to do a commercial for them. Auction off chunks of carbon chiseled off of ol' Dirty here on the Falfiles for additional ammo purchase to see how far it'll really go. Special addition carbon chunk sealed in polymer, serialized and, autographed by James could do well on the auction block. Payment option in equivalent ammo to dollar ratio. Just trying to help out with ol' Dirties retirement portfolio. __________________ I just need a million bucks! Is that so hard to understand? Were it not for ignorance, thus we would remain. Never hate your enemy, it only clouds your judgment.

November 15, 2014, 17:49	#454
EPC WN Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 65612 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: District 12 Posts: 6,915	Looks like the carbon might be holding the whole thing together at this point... Never clean it! __________________ ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

November 15, 2014, 19:07	#456
Bruce Allen Registered FALaholic #: 186 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: SC Posts: 6,360	What does the bore look like? __________________ You cannot post 'Thou Shalt Not Steal,' 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery,' and 'Thou Shall Not Lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment.

December 09, 2014, 19:22	#459
Cozmacozmy Registered FALaholic #: 9260 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,475	Is there any chance that with so much carbon and junk clogging up all over the place that there could be a hazard to shoot this still? __________________ Jeff-"The world needs more Rhodies"! rbgonoles-"This old gal is fated for some poop paint once she's twisted up".

December 20, 2014, 00:04	#460
hueyville Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 74557 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Foothills of the Blueridge Mountains Posts: 5,036	I shot 7,000 rounds through a stock 10/22 before its first cleaning. Funny thing is after cleaned it did not shoot any better clean than dirty. I have an AR 15 that has not been cleaned in over 20 years, not kept up with rounds fired but guess its in the 10,000 plus range and has just started giving trouble. I believe it needs a new buffer and spring rather than cleaning. Going to swap those out before reverting to an actual bath. I hate cleaning guns and except for nice customs, avoid like plauge. My favorite 1911 comp gun gets 100 rounds a week minimum and has not been cleaned in a couple years. A little lubrication when start to feel like beginning to drag a bit and keep shooting. __________________ A time will come when people will not listen to accurate teachings. Instead, they will follow their own desires and surround themselves with teachers who tell them what they want to hear. 2 Timothy 4:3 G.W.T. "If it is worth doing once...it's worth doing it a few more times to get it right." Stimpsonjcat

December 09, 2014, 16:25	#458
ghf Registered FALaholic #: 15873 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 546	I'm sure that some of the guys over at the Fort Benning weapons pool would dunk that rifle in one of the half 55 gal drums filled w/ the mixture of solvent and oil and God knows what else and after 15min w/ a steel brush, have that weapon shinning

December 21, 2014, 10:21	#461
Straight Shooter American X Factor Contributor FALaholic #: 74860 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Swamplands of Louisiana, USA Posts: 235	Old Dirty is definitely one for the record books, anybody know the number for Guinness? __________________ Straight Shooter

January 06, 2015, 03:39	#463
RetiredNSmilin308 BANNED FALaholic #: 74062 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Jacksonville, TX Posts: 949	James, Being how I just recently moved to Jacksonville, I will bribe you with a steak dinner if I can be photographed taking just one shot out of Ol' Dirty. Few people get to shoot a legend. I would like to be one of them.

January 25, 2015, 00:05	#466
Wecsogery Registered FALaholic #: 73856 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 340	Ya know, the only bad thing about this Ol' Dirty legend is that it basically means James cannot shoot corrosive ammo in it. I mean even a beautiful, pristine early Belgian could be shot with corrosive as long as it gets a good cleaning afterwards. But Ol' Dirty? Nope. The corrosive salts would not respect the history nor the legend. It would have to be cleaned, and Ol' Dirty would revert to being just another well-worn FAL.

December 29, 2015, 12:02	#468
Straight Shooter American X Factor Contributor FALaholic #: 74860 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Swamplands of Louisiana, USA Posts: 235	So, what's the count brass count? Any current photos? __________________ Straight Shooter

December 29, 2015, 13:33	#469
Sig220 Registered FALaholic #: 11622 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SE Texas Posts: 5,505	Come to the river shoot in January with your pocket full of ammo and you might get the chance to add to Ol' Dirty's total. Just bring some old clothes and glasses!! __________________ Sometimes you are the bug.....sometimes the windshield.

May 07, 2016, 12:23	#470
TNAndy Computer Geek Contributor FALaholic #: 64986 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,444	I'd like to request an update on Ol' Dirty's round count. The last update James posted was a batch of pictures dated August 2014, and I hope there's been some--or even a lot of--shootin' since then. __________________ ----------- Go Vols!

May 28, 2016, 21:31	#471
hickman Registered FALaholic #: 13704 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 97	I'm with TN ANDY Ol' Dirty needs to be shown with current round count... __________________ When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

September 24, 2016, 09:42	#472
Invictus77 1C 16:13 Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 74205 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Western, KY Posts: 5,653	Earth to James, earth to James. SITREP please, over. __________________ A 9 mm "might" expand A 45 will NEVER shrink!!

September 24, 2016, 19:57	#473
jhend170 Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 76477 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,436	For some reason it reminds me of Willie Nelson's guitar... http://apps.startribune.com/blogs/us...91_wguitar.jpg

March 23, 2017, 10:46	#476
W.E.G. FAL Files Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 39,289	Which proves your FAL will outlive you - or at least will outlive your interest in trying to prove who will live longer __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

March 23, 2017, 11:02	#477
flejl Registered FALaholic #: 10776 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: PA Posts: 759	Wow, reading this thread is like a walk through FAL Files history!!!!

May 14, 2017, 03:50	#478
adamweinerog Member Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 4362 Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse Posts: 265	Love to peruse this thread from time to time! __________________ Aim above morality. Be not simply good, be good for something. -Henry David Thoreau

May 14, 2017, 06:35	#479
raubvogel Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 64403 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,461	I too would love to know how it looks right now __________________ All I'm really asking for here is a knife that will not jam and a unicorn that doesn't need sharpening. Will_Power It's been my experience that all you really need to harvest a deer is a car. They come right through the windshield just fine. 357ross That poop is priceless. MFC

May 15, 2017, 19:12	#481
thewalk Registered FALaholic #: 34127 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: FL Posts: 120	i too still peruse this thread from time to time. i send it to all my AR buddies for fun. keep the pics coming! FAL, the original black rifle.

May 15, 2017, 19:21	#482
spartacus2002 Registered FALaholic #: 7229 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 504	So, do we have a current round count? __________________ x

May 15, 2017, 23:52	#483
brunop Refresh Key Masher Platinum Contributor FALaholic #: 17136 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 12,444	I'm wondering about the key-holing that was reported earlier. It may have worn the barrel out - with or without the "dirtiness". And if that is the case, he probably doesn't shoot it much anymore - not that fun to shoot (or spend the money on the ammo) when the results are so unpredictable. But I, for one, would give a re-barrel a complete 'pass', since we expect a barrel to wear out sometime, and its replacement will not affect the wear or the dirtiness of most of the gun - or the function test that is currently of interest to everyone here. James - my offer still stands to contribute ammo and/or cash to the ongoing test. __________________ Warning to all FalFiles members who may ever want to do business with me on the FF Marketplace: I support any person who steals 3% from PP by conducting business transactions as Family & Friends transactions. This may impugn my character, and, according to Mark Graham of Arizona Response Systems, means that I'll lie, cheat, and steal from people here if there is anything about you that I don't like - or possibly even disagree with. You may not want to do business with me. In case you forget this, this warning will appear in any future advert in the Marketplace. Consider yourself duly warned. http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=89

June 25, 2017, 00:12	#484
James Registered Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 642 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX, USA Posts: 1,818	Ok I don't know what the last round count was that I posted or when I posted it but right now it's about 16,800 plus a 100 or so. Sometimes I forget to write down how many I shot that day. Dirty is kind of in hibernation as I haven't been shooting it much. Still functions fine. Only question is how good is the bore? I guess I should put it on paper to see where it's shooting. James __________________ Hey guys, watch this!

June 25, 2017, 01:06	#485
ExCdnSoldierInTx Old Fart Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 65552 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: South Central Merca Posts: 7,241	Ol' Dirty needed to be pointed out to me the times I saw her. Truly an unassuming ol' girl for being so famous and all. On being offered to shoot her, I politely declined. I couldn't live with myself if I'd ended up being "that guy". __________________ " .... basically you'd have to take them head-on, penetrating 4-6 'yotas per round, to avoid wasting ammo." - Enquiring Minds 11/15/15

June 25, 2017, 16:56	#486
hairygreek Registered FALaholic #: 71529 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 176	Please post some groups, I'm really curious how it must shoot right now. __________________ See my Balkans collection on my website http://partisanrifles.weebly.com/, specializing in rifles with soldier graffiti.

July 02, 2017, 08:08	#487
James Registered Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 642 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX, USA Posts: 1,818	Looks like my photos are still showing up on page 9. I pay a small fee on Photobucket so maybe that is the reason. Not sure how long they will be there. James __________________ Hey guys, watch this!

December 03, 2017, 12:01	#489
C2A1 Registered FALaholic #: 15514 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,494	Has old dirty gotten to the 17,000rd count? Just amazing!

December 09, 2017, 18:23	#490
Invictus77 1C 16:13 Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 74205 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Western, KY Posts: 5,653	SITREP on Ol' Dirty: Last night at dinner, James told me Ol’ Dirty was at 16,800 rounds without a cleaning. Today at the North Texas shoot, James let me run her up to 16,820 I can personally vouch that Ol Dirty can still run through a 20 round mag without a hiccup, and (when I did my part) can routinely hit a 6" steel plate at 100 yards. I was blessed with the opportunity to handle an FAL legend. Thank you sincerely James! __________________ A 9 mm "might" expand A 45 will NEVER shrink!!

December 09, 2017, 20:35	#491
thedishdoc Registered FALaholic #: 43570 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3	Can anyone post a link to the original blog, I can’t seem to find it anymore:-(

December 09, 2017, 21:54	#492
hkshooter Mighty Fine! Contributor FALaholic #: 5391 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 5,988	Original blog? Start at the first page of this thread. __________________ How's your dog, Paden?

January 16, 2018, 21:06	#494
SmokeEater2 Old grouchy bastid Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 10990 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Arkansas Posts: 3,759	Bump for an update James? __________________ MAGA?

April 10, 2018, 18:21	#495
WESOMATIC Registered FALaholic #: 75796 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 169	The weather is getting nice, time to go shooting. Any updates? __________________ That's "The Duke" to you.

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