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Old March 22, 2014, 23:43   #201
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I lean towards it being at Diego.
The good General is still on the payroll.He gets a check every month.Add to that the fact the media is an obedient creature,and will do as those who control its license tell it to.
There was something,or someone,on that plane that they wanted bad enough to go thru this charade.
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Old March 23, 2014, 09:51   #202
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Old March 23, 2014, 14:56   #203
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I don't know where this new info will go but I still think if it wasn't a GORN attack this thing suffered some kind of catastrophic failure, or was intentionally flown into the ocean.... I just can't wrap my head around the idea that of the 250 people on board KNOW ONE was able to send a message after this thing lands no matter where it might have been??

I will say however in this case I would very much like to be proven wrong..
Hoping it did land and all passengers and crew are fine...
Decompress the cabin in flight, starving passengers of oxygen, and voila...no text messaging when it lands.
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Old March 23, 2014, 15:14   #204
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...no text messaging when it lands.

And then?
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Summon Tom Clancy's and Vince Flynn's ghosts via seance?
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Old March 23, 2014, 16:49   #206
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Decompress the cabin in flight, starving passengers of oxygen, and voila...no text messaging when it lands.
Yea, Yea, I've read all the "possibilities" too but I'm not buying most of them.... Is it even possible to decompress "just the cabin" I have no fuggin clue?
BUT "if" you do that then everyone but the Pilot and Co-pilot are dead.. So then ya gotta kill one or the other which leaves ONE person on an entire triple seven.. I'm imagine ONE guy can land it but the what? Know one on the ground sees or hears a 777 landing, OR everyone in the vicinity is a BAD GUY and knows the plan??

I'm not na´ve enough to believe that with today technology in cell phones, lap tops, and other modes of communication that "not one" person can get a message off after a plane lands?? I just don't buy it... Hell I bet "someone" in that group even had a SAT PHONE.. Many of thee peeps are Chinese and aside from the Japanese what country is more up on electronics tech??

I think the planes that where hijacked and ultimately crashed on 09/11 have made many people more aware that "IF" a plane is hijacked odds are not in their favor..
Take 250 people and if only 10% have the balls to do something that's 25 that would fight.. Aint no way there was more then a small group of hijackers and 25 peeps in a life and death struggle will win, the plane crashes, or BOTH..

Since all we have is conjecture and speculation I guess for now everyone's scenario is as viable as the next guy's but I'm struggling with anything but a crash right now.. Yea we got's "egg-spurts" out the ying-yang but if they know so much then why do we still not know what happened??
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Old March 24, 2014, 08:29   #207
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Do we go back to burning steel discussions when they start pulling wreckage aboard later this week?
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Old March 24, 2014, 10:15   #208
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Diego Garcia keeps coming up.

http://theunhivedmind.com/wordpress3...ucson-arizona/

The purported wreckage is in the vicinity of Diego.
It raises more questions than it answers.

The plot of Red October is just so similar with diversions, to hide the actual whereabouts of flt 370, that is begs the question of who killed Tom Clancy last year.......???

You KNOW he would be shouting it from the rooftops about this flight, and he was a solid Obama hater.
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I see the Malay governmink just declared it as "crashed in the Indian Ocean" ..Not sure how they made that claim with any validity. Unless they have something in hand, very unique to that particular aircraft,or better,mulitples of unique items,they have nothing.
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Old March 24, 2014, 20:52   #210
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The South Indian Ocean. What possible reason would there be for the pilot or anyone else to go towards nothing but ocean without giving a reason in a video or a note.
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Old March 24, 2014, 21:27   #211
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Here is a possible scenario: On board fire in unpressurized cargo hold either severs electronics for communication equipment, or pilots pulls fuses and circuit breakers in attempt to quell fire. Attempts by pilots fail, fire in cargo hold rages on, pilots in desperate Hail Mary increase altitude to service ceiling in attempt to starve fire of oxygen, Hail Mary fails and passengers and crew are overcome by toxic smoke and lack of oxygen and die. Plane continues flying for some time towards southern Indian ocean until it runs out of fuel, or fire finally severs flight controls, or plane breaks up due to fire damage. I know it is not a new idea, but it almost makes some sense.

Or, Muzzy pilots commit jihad or old fashioned murder/suicide for the usual reasons. This also almost makes some sense.

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Old March 25, 2014, 00:27   #212
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Something tells me this involved Fentanyl.
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Old March 25, 2014, 08:07   #213
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Well shazzam !!!!
The Malay gov have just stated that "its gone-everybodys dead, no survivors" and calls off their search.
Should have heard the Chi-coms last night- they are pissed. I was listening to radio China last night, and they are quite upset abkout how the Malay gov is handeling this. They also said they have been shown No proof that the plane hit the water. They are sending more ships on the goose chase, including "the snow goose" , their ice breaker.
The only offering the Malays gave is a cryptic "satillite " tracking azimuth that showed it flew to the deep, uncharted part of the Indian ocean and went down- Oh and they chose to announce this the same day observations in the area had to be canxeled due to a real BIG CYCLONE dancing around in that AO- Like in "gee, the big storm must have sunk all the debris", cept what they tostsed out of a cargo plane a few days before , just before passing on the "sat" data. I'll beleive em' when the guys in the rubber boat digg'n thru the floating garbage produces the pilots wet passport.Or better yet , the two "stolen " ones.

I've never heard of a Malay satillite, wonder where they got that sat data from? wouldn't be the US / CIA, by any chance would it? Then there's the Izzies. Anybody hear bout them shutting down all their embassies world wide yesterday?

Oh well , I guess that ends that story-, now that we all know the truth according to the Malay gov--
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Surely it's in Diego Garcia, hell we all no that NO PLANES hit the World Trade Center so this would be quite plausible..
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Old March 25, 2014, 10:00   #215
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Any of you guys read Dutch?

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Old March 25, 2014, 10:04   #216
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It seems somebody is a little bit spooked about unidentified Boeing 777's flying around the world. Wonder why that might be? Hmmmmm....
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Old March 25, 2014, 10:41   #217
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Old March 25, 2014, 11:56   #218
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A friend just told me that there is a old US air strip in Thailand that our b52's used to use thats still in company hands--Just so happens that it was one of five that were on the pilots simulator, or so someone says.. Now ,given that we don't know that to be true or missinfo- I suspect that its on the ground somewhere and those chi com engineers being "debriefed" about the level of Chi com penatration in our mil electronics. Its a two-fer, they also get a plane to use in a false flag..
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Old March 25, 2014, 17:39   #219
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You ain't crazy,OneHand. After literally hundreds of people watching a missile hit flight 800,and the govt. ignoring that and proclaiming it was low voltage wires in a empty fuel tank..after watching them haul in jetsam strung out in a 7 mile long trail..and proclaim the muzzies were solely responsible for flight93 crashing,ignoring the glaring reality that planes with fusilage integrity don't string out wreckage for miles..
Now we are expected to believe it (malay flight) plunged into the south indian ocean without so much as a seat cushion as evidence....

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Looks no new conspiracies for a couple days, BUT we also have NO debris in anyone's hands?

I still think the plane crashed but need to see a lot more evidence to support that... Although there does seem to be a good bit of SAT data, until pieces start getting hauled aboard ships even that is of course speculation..
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I think they've reported satellite evidence of debris fields in at least four different areas of the Indian Ocean, all hundreds of miles apart. This morning they reported they are relocating the search ships to a completely different area...again. That implies that they found the debris in the current search area and ruled it out.
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I thought about that and it's quite possible...
But could it not be just as possible that shit weather and rough sea's could spread flotsam in diff directions pretty quickly?
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I thought about that and it's quite possible...
But could it not be just as possible that shit weather and rough sea's could spread flotsam in diff directions pretty quickly?
Yes, it could. But, the new search location is over 1,000 miles away from the previous. Also, if the debris field they just got done checking had appeared to be from the flight, how do you expect they would have reacted, and how would that differ from what they are actually doing?
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Surely it's in Diego Garcia, hell we all no that NO PLANES hit the World Trade Center so this would be quite plausible..
WTF does this have to do with 911?

Whoever said no planes hit the two towers is full of shit. Spreading that shit to make others think that all that doubt the fedgovs story believe that no planes hit the two towers is another lie told to falsely discredit. Although it wasn't said by those particular people. Or me.

Same as me saying that all small engine mechanics say stupid things that don't mean anything. I can see one does anyway.........

Do ya like that? How does it feel?

Will you please show me and all others hear what aircraft hit building seven? And also show us all how the entire building could collapse evenly like an implosion when the fire was only on the side that faced the towers? Even the lease owner of that building said they pulled it. Larry Silverman. He made billions off the insurance companies on 911. Why can't someone explain how he had the building "pulled" in just a few hours? It takes weeks or months to set up an implosion.

Or are you just about throwing insults rather than facts?



And don't give me the bullshit about respecting the dead. The false tears over them doesn't sway me at all. Not looking for the truth is the greatest disrespect we can pay the dead and their families!

You bring it up and throw shit about it. MAKE STATEMENTS OF FACT. NOT OBFUSCATIVE BULLSHIT. OK? Especially on a thread that has NOTHING to do with 911. Or you're gonna get me running up your ass with a figurative pitchfork........
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WTF does this have to do with 911?

Whoever said no planes hit the two towers is full of shit. Spreading that shit to make others think that all that doubt the fedgovs story believe that no planes hit the two towers is another lie told to falsely discredit. Although it wasn't said by those particular people. Or me.

Same as me saying that all small engine mechanics say stupid things that don't mean anything. I can see one does anyway.........

Do ya like that? How does it feel?

Will you please show me and all others hear what aircraft hit building seven? And also show us all how the entire building could collapse evenly like an implosion when the fire was only on the side that faced the towers? Even the lease owner of that building said they pulled it. Larry Silverman. He made billions off the insurance companies on 911. Why can't someone explain how he had the building "pulled" in just a few hours? It takes weeks or months to set up an implosion.

Or are you just about throwing insults rather than facts?

And don't give me the bullshit about respecting the dead. The false tears over them doesn't sway me at all. Not looking for the truth is the greatest disrespect we can pay the dead and their families!

You bring it up and throw shit about it. MAKE STATEMENTS OF FACT. NOT OBFUSCATIVE BULLSHIT. OK? Especially on a thread that has NOTHING to do with 911. Or you're gonna get me running up your ass with a figurative pitchfork........
Wow Wizzy what's up yer craw today????
Musta had sumthin that set you off...

My point was really quite simple..
I have heard the conspiracy theorists say on more then one occasion that there was NO PLANES that hit the towers...
Since it's not a stretch for them to make that claim then surely it's not a stretch to conjure up more conspiracies regarding flight 370..

I noted that idea as plausible and you for whatever reason decide to have a shit fit..

Also said NOTHING about respecting the dead and I have no clue where that came from either??

I have no idea what happened do you???
And since you don't then that makes my opinions just as valid as anyone else's right??
We will find out what happened I have no doubt about that, and in the end "someone" will get to say "I told ya so" and take credit for getting lucky with a WAG..
Now if'n ya really want to get yer pitchfork then I guess you can go ahead and bring it..

BTW, Small Engine Mechanics are REALLY SMART don't forget that either..
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I see the Malay governmink just declared it as "crashed in the Indian Ocean" ..Not sure how they made that claim with any validity. Unless they have something in hand, very unique to that particular aircraft,or better,mulitples of unique items,they have nothing.
It takes awhile for all parties involved to come with an official story and plant ambiguous evidence.
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It is possible they may not find that plane in our lifetime. They have been looking for Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan since the 1930s. They have been looking for two ships, Erebus and Terror, since 1840-something.
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It takes awhile for all parties involved to come with an official story and plant ambiguous evidence.
That would be my guess. They will likely come up with stuff that is fairly generic,and try to pass it off as concrete proof.
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It's important to stall and steam around the Indian Ocean chasing debris spottings until the batteries on the flight data recorders expire and they quit pinging. That way they never have to actually find the plane and explain the data on the recorders.
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It's important to stall and steam around the Indian Ocean chasing debris spottings until the batteries on the flight data recorders expire and they quit pinging. That way they never have to actually find the plane and explain the data on the recorders.
Yes.....
I like playing the "look over there" game with my kids..get them to look at something,then say,"made ya look".. It forces them to focus and dicipline themselves to stay on focus,and not respond knee-jerk,just because somebody tells them to.
Remember,there is still junk floating around from the Japanese tsunami. There made even be crap still drifting around from the indonesian tsunami,but that was quite a bit ago.There is also millions of TONS of garbage floating in the worlds oceans.
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IBM ENGINEER TAKEN FROM HIJACKED FLIGHT 370 GOT A SELFIE OUT TO THE INTERNET.
This image, which appears black was posted as taken in a dark cell by an IBM engineer. The picture is black because the cell was too dark, but a critical piece of information was embedded in the Exif data, the coordinates to Diego Garcia, where the picture was taken. And it's real, this is NOT a hoax. The coordinates in the picture indicate that the photo was taken within 3 miles of what Google officially gives for Diego Garcia. It is NOT EXACTLY what comes up on Google. It is off a couple miles, so NO ONE GOOGLED THIS, thus helping to confirm it's authenticity. I don't know how big the island is, but if it has a runway, that certainly fits.


Logically,the military would install offsets into the computers which control GPS,so sites like Diego are not accurately pegged.
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IBM ENGINEER TAKEN FROM HIJACKED FLIGHT 370 GOT A SELFIE OUT TO THE INTERNET.
This image, which appears black was posted as taken in a dark cell by an IBM engineer. The picture is black because the cell was too dark, but a critical piece of information was embedded in the Exif data, the coordinates to Diego Garcia, where the picture was taken. And it's real, this is NOT a hoax. The coordinates in the picture indicate that the photo was taken within 3 miles of what Google officially gives for Diego Garcia. It is NOT EXACTLY what comes up on Google. It is off a couple miles, so NO ONE GOOGLED THIS, thus helping to confirm it's authenticity. I don't know how big the island is, but if it has a runway, that certainly fits.


Logically,the military would install offsets into the computers which control GPS,so sites like Diego are not accurately pegged.
Any file can be hacked. Every single file is just a stream of 1's and 0's. You could manipulate it bit by bit if you were knowledgeable and determined. Hacker software that can manipulate the image file would be simple.

Here is a clue. If you check the time stamp on the image I believe it is set to UTC - 4:00 That is Eastern Daylight Time, not Malaysia or China. Hmmmm.

Here is another clue. Read the message. Is that what you would say in your mayday message? I'd say my name first. I'd name the flight. If I didn't know the flight, I'd say I was on the hijacked plane. I'd assume everyone knew the flight was hijacked and that there weren't any others. How would i know otherwise? I'd include some code to prove it was me, maybe my SS number. I'd plead for rescue. I'd include details to help authorities find me. I'd tell my family I loved them. But the message names his employer which was reported in the press. It claims he "cannot think clearly." I guess not.

It's easy to get GPS coords for some point on Diego Garcia and then add or subtract seconds or minutes latitude and longitude to offset it. I project coordinates like this occasionally to waypoint property corners. I've located markers out in a swamp using this method. My 15 year old Garmin can get me within about 50 feet.

You can't add "offsets" to GPS signals. You can add uncertainty by encrypting significant digits, you can broadcast fake signals, and you can jam the signal. The satellites just broadcast their position in space and time. They broadcast the same signal to Diego Garcia as everywhere else. The GPS unit figures out where it is based on those signals. If a fake or jamming signal was broadcast, it would screw up all the military and civilian GPS devices too.

It would be so easy and so rewarding to do this as a prank, or a psyop, I'm calling

It could still be true. But conspiracy theorists are particularly vulnerable to this kind of attack because they want so desperately to believe.

Sorry. And no, I don't care to debate this.

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Any file can be hacked. Every single file is just a stream of 1's and 0's. You could manipulate it bit by bit if you were knowledgeable and determined. Hacker software that can manipulate the image file would be simple.
You are absolutely correct. While a common commercially available editor would leave a footprint in the file, a simple hex editor would not.

While I'm quite certain this is a hoax, I would like it to be true for the simple fact that it would mean there's still a chance the passengers are alive.
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"Philip claimed to be blindfolded when he sent the message. When the American military blindfolds someone, it is accomplished by putting a bag over the head that is locked so you can't get it off. This left the engineers hands free. This would have made it possible for him to pull his Iphone 5 (a fact confirmed by the Exif data) out of his butt as stated, and use the voice command ability of the Iphone to just talk to it to log in and post the message. This explains why he sent a black photo, he could not see what he was sending, he just knew he snapped a photo and sent whatever got taken."

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You are absolutely correct. While a common commercially available editor would leave a footprint in the file, a simple hex editor would not.

While I'm quite certain this is a hoax, I would like it to be true for the simple fact that it would mean there's still a chance the passengers are alive.
I like your thought on this. If it means those people are still alive, I hope it is true. On the other hand, if it is true, that's some scary shit for the rest of us. Anyway, good thought.
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I like your thought on this. If it means those people are still alive, I hope it is true. On the other hand, if it is true, that's some scary shit for the rest of us. Anyway, good thought.
Here's a hypothetical thought experiment. Pose scenarios whereby the US might be willing to sacrifice the passengers just to get their hands on something on the plane.

* WMD strongly suspected of being smuggled in the cargo.

* Chinese agent/diplomat thought to have recently been conferring with Russia to plan coordinated military moves against the west.

* Snowden thought to be on the plane.

* Chinese cyber warrior command leaders on the plane.

* US traitor on his way to China to disclose status of NATO nuclear deployments and order of battle.

* Documents detailing the plans to undermine the US dollar and eliminate it as the petro-dollar.

* Some country trying to secretly transfer their gold reserves to China.

Others?

I'm not saying any of these are true, or likely to be true. I'm just saying I believe there are scenarios under which the US would run an op to hijack the plane and feed the world some bogus satellite data to generate a wild goose chase in the Indian Ocean.
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My concern is an attack or red flag with an Airliner. Unlikely but possible.

I never thought of a heist. Lots of gold flying around lately.
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[QUOTE=STG_58_guy;3824849]My concern is an attack or red flag with an Airliner. Unlikely but possible./QUOTE]

I agree, very unlikely. The world is full of airliners for sale, the Mojave desert has lots of them for example. No need to hijack an airliner full of passengers, just buy one and go for it.
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Here's a hypothetical thought experiment. Pose scenarios whereby the US might be willing to sacrifice the passengers just to get their hands on something on the plane.

* WMD strongly suspected of being smuggled in the cargo.

* Chinese agent/diplomat thought to have recently been conferring with Russia to plan coordinated military moves against the west.

* Snowden thought to be on the plane.

* Chinese cyber warrior command leaders on the plane.

* US traitor on his way to China to disclose status of NATO nuclear deployments and order of battle.

* Documents detailing the plans to undermine the US dollar and eliminate it as the petro-dollar.

* Some country trying to secretly transfer their gold reserves to China.

Others?

I'm not saying any of these are true, or likely to be true. I'm just saying I believe there are scenarios under which the US would run an op to hijack the plane and feed the world some bogus satellite data to generate a wild goose chase in the Indian Ocean.

Nothing would surprise me.

And if it did come out that the gov. was responsible,no one would know anything about how it happened anyway (like Benghazi,Fast & Forgotten,etc),so "at this point,what does it matter"?
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My concern is an attack or red flag with an Airliner. Unlikely but possible./QUOTE]

I agree, very unlikely. The world is full of airliners for sale, the Mojave desert has lots of them for example. No need to hijack an airliner full of passengers, just buy one and go for it.


I would think buying one would raise some questions.Pretty impressive if it was stolen.

Not like picking up a Neon off Craigslist for cash somewhere.
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hijackin the plane full o people is pretty whack but the guy who posited a cell phone up the chute is off the chart. my iphone is 2.5" wide & 0.5" thick x 5" long & mostly glass. a cat shittin razors has nothin on that dude.
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The plane was diverted and disappeared. Pilots do not normally do that. There were no radio transmissions out of the ordinary and there were at least two Iranians on board with false passports.

Muslims

TWA Flt 800 clearly had a round hole in the fuselage that looked like a missle strike but those were explained, as "what a stupid person focuses on"...like the 2nd amendment.

Plenty of stupid people in DC.
DC is totally silent.

This clearly is an op.
Pilot was told to practice landings on alternate strips. He did his part. Preplanning goes a long way.

Why do they need the plane? Plenty of planes are available for sale, but this one is free.

People on board are likely dead from depressurization and asphyxiation procedure.

That is only necessary if it is to be used for bad ideas.
Plane flew for 7 hours+.

A plane in the hand is worth 5 on an airfield needing maintenance and purchase.
WMD..........what else? Terrorism is usually a local matter.

Some Muslim has a plan..........ever hear of Ayman al Zawari? Iran?
When the plane does reappear, it will be headed under the radar, to a hotbed of Zionist activity. Ebola? Nukes? Dirty Bombs?

Why fly it to Diego Garcia? Iran is much more likely. Iranians with fake passports and a Muslim Crew are hard to explain at Diego Garcia that probably has radar and defenses working overtime all the time.


Obama is Irans friend...he is letting them build bombs and call them waste products.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here. The Indian Ocean is a false flag. Mh370 is on the ground at a military airfield in western Pakistan. Pakistan supposedly has over 200 nukes. Depending on who's in charge, the target could be Israeli, U.S. interests, British, Saudi, or God knows who. Maybe even Russian. Time will tell.
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I predict that if debris is found and authorities claim it is from the plane, some here will deny that evidence, and ultimately, no amount of evidence will convince them that this was not a conspiracy by government.
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I predict that if debris is found and authorities claim it is from the plane, some here will deny that evidence, and ultimately, no amount of evidence will convince them that this was not a conspiracy by government.


Yep,because the gov is 100% truthful and never outright lies to us.

Blind obedience for the win...........
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the chinee might be on the sent

http://www.timesofisrael.com/chinese...3c41a-54567461
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I predict that if debris is found and authorities claim it is from the plane, some here will deny that evidence, and ultimately, no amount of evidence will convince them that this was not a conspiracy by government.
I'm at that point. I don't trust one damn thing they say.
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Flt 870 was on the way to China. There is no way that the two Iranians with falsified passports could have gotten thru Chinese authorities.

Remember the story was that these two poor Iranians were on the way home to Germany---- to be with friends and family.

Yeah? THEN WAY THE "F" WERE THEY ON A FLIGHT TO CHINA?

This was a snatch, and this plane is in muzzieland or Obamaland
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