McChrystal calls for Tougher Gun Control

[juanni]

Retired Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal Tuesday threw his support behind calls for tougher gun control legislation, beginning with a possible ban on military-style assault weapons that he said have no place on the streets of America.


When will you warmongering dumbsh*ts realize that big govt and big military is a threat to our Constitutional rights?

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gun...1/08/id/470472



............juanni

[ronpaulFAL]

Typical.

I hope that the lower ranks of our military don't all feel the same!

[wkendwarrior2003]

Originally Posted by juanni

Retired Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal Tuesday threw his support behind calls for tougher gun control legislation, beginning with a possible ban on military-style assault weapons that he said have no place on the streets of America.


When will you warmongering dumbsh*ts realize that big govt and big military is a threat to our Constitutional rights?

............juanni

(Most of them) Probably not until it is too late.

[STG_58_guy]

Second source anybody? He swore an oath to defend the COTUS. Most military do not support gun control. If he said this, he is an idiot.

[juanni]

Originally Posted by STG_58_guy

Second source anybody? He swore an oath to defend the COTUS. Most military do not support gun control. If he said this, he is an idiot.

Watch with your own eyes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2431063.html




............juanni

[V guy]

He also voted for Obama.
It is fitting that he got fired for that.

I guess he does not understand the Constitution very well.
The 2nd is not about hunting and fishing.
I'm buying more handguns.

[82ndRecon]

It probably went something like this:

Obammy says to the four star dip shit: “Hey while you’re bending over for us on the Rolling Stone article, you need to also get on the Gun Control band wagon with us. You see that young Marine Corporal that wrote that letter to Nancy Polousy is putting a big dent in our spin. So we need a higher ranking Military man to get on our side with this. “

“There will be a nice reach around in it for you later I promise”

[def90]

Makes sense.. isn't it standard military doctrine to disarm your enemy?

[D P Six]

Is it really surprising that Stanley would want to have the real world like his world. No where is there a more textbook perfect gun free zone than on a military reservation. Major Hasan knew that and was able to kill and wound 42 people at Fort Hood, not a particular difficult task when no one else is armed. Maybe General McChrystal is right. Only the military should have guns and only when they are on a killing mission oversees.

[JohnnyV1966]

No Surprise it happened on former Congressman Joe Scarboroughs MSNBC show. Former Talk Show host, Minister and Presidential Candidate Chuck Baldwin had less than kind words to say about Joes character and change of hear on the issue of Gun Control.

Ahh, what else can you expect from a guy who fails to comprehend the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights when he has spent a life time barking out orders, killing people and controlling the behavior of others.

He represented the interests of the Army wherever he was sent to do our bidding, likely with little concern for the "rights" of others no matter where we sent him or who we sent him with.

Wasn't he the guy who was relieved of duty over a scandal?

[Thorack]

Well,

There are a lot of General Officers that dont think troops should own guns, Ive run into several. There are some good Generals but McCrystal is a political animal. Im glad hes gone.

Thorack

[PA Garand Boy]

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[Mebsuta]

We used to have real generals, like Matthew Ridgway.

[ce]

And Curtis Lemay.

[black sheep]

Interesting read, partly about a weapons ban....
http://thenewalexandrialibrary.com/armysurvey.html

[one hand clapping]

The sad thing for me is that he WAS SF.
I can spell compromised.
"course we all know that commisioned officers NEVER get any special treatment/prefrence at -airborne, ranger or SF school , now do we???

Stanley. Stanley . Stanley

[wkendwarrior2003]

Originally Posted by def90

Makes sense.. isn't it standard military doctrine to disarm your enemy?

Well, they sure did it to the Germans and Japs anyway...the Iraqis are slightly better off.

[JasonB]

Originally Posted by STG_58_guy

. Most military do not support gun control. .

Most cops claim the same. Get on a sight like officer.com, lightfighter, and others and look at the multiple restrictions each group favors on the who, what, when, where, and how of firearms ownership....for civilians of course.

[JasonB]

Originally Posted by juanni

When will you warmongering dumbsh*ts realize that big govt and big military is a threat to our Constitutional rights?

Their heros have always been anti-gunners.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...ght=McChrystal

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...ght=McChrystal


http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...ght=McChrystal

[JohnnyMac]

Originally Posted by def90

Makes sense.. isn't it standard military doctrine to disarm your enemy?

From FM 3-24/MCWP 3-33.5 COUNTERINSURGENCY DECEMBER 2006

The ultimate objective of these arrangements is for military forces, police, and other security forces to establish effective control while attaining a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence within the society.

JMc

[SYTY]

I thought the .223 5.56 was made to not do as much body damage, unlike the 30-06 & .308 7.62x51 witch would do to much damage in war. What kind of gen. was he that he doesn't know that. I think a video game gen. would know then him.

[357ross]

Originally Posted by juanni

Retired Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal Tuesday threw his support behind calls for tougher gun control legislation, beginning with a possible ban on military-style assault weapons that he said have no place on the streets of America.


When will you warmongering dumbsh*ts realize that big govt and big military is a threat to our Constitutional rights?

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gun...1/08/id/470472



............juanni

THIS is a general with political ambitions. Sucking up to the democrap party.

[Illurian00]

Like Thorack said,,,most general officers tend to be political animals, much like most police chiefs'.

And you boys forgot another 'real' general,,,Marine Major Gen'l., holder of two MoH,,,Smedley Butler....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0

[RG Coburn]

Real classy Stan...cashing a monthly check,compliments of John Q Taxpayer,and at the same time,advocating John lose more rights..
Same with Gabbity Giffords and space-boy hubby...

[gus]

more truer words said is treason and hate for what makes America free !!!jail them !!!or better yet send them to north Korea !!

[STGThndr]

I was under the understanding that generals and military in general are to stay out of civilian politics? Is this a new Obombunist policy?

[JasonB]

Originally Posted by STGThndr

I was under the understanding that generals and military in general are to stay out of civilian politics? Is this a new Obombunist policy?

Colin Powell was interviewed by USA Today back in the mid to late 1990s he and was also an advocate for strong anti-gun laws.

And as I said before, it would be a good idea to read opinions posted on sites catering to lower ranking mil & LE that are "pro-gun" about what the details of their being pro-gun actually is.

[one hand clapping]

Time to broaden the focus here a bit.
To understand Stanly,one must look at what is going on with the general staff command, and at corporate structure and policy.
Today's commanding officers have been groomed to be part of the "corporate system". Thats where a select few live lives far removed from every day folks.
They are SO removed that their continued access to this special club ,with all the benifits, is their PRIME directive,

In other words , even though our military accadamies have educated many fine officers over the years, both the circirculum and the path to advancement have been co-opted by the big corporations ,in persuit of global domination. ON OUR DIME

the generals that get promoted are usually self agrandizing YES MEN. they look at those who do the real work with the same distain as the head of goldman sacs looks at the janitor. [ both work in the same bld, but the chairman needs the janitor to keep his bathroom clean and the lobby floor buffed--, where as the general needs some grunts to walk point and "take one for the gipper" so as to ensure THEIR continued position at the top of the heap and elite lifestyles]

[juanni]

Originally Posted by one hand clapping

Time to broaden the focus here a bit.
To understand Stanly,one must look at what is going on with the general staff command, and at corporate structure and policy.
Today's commanding officers have been groomed to be part of the "corporate system". Thats where a select few live lives far removed from every day folks.
They are SO removed that their continued access to this special club ,with all the benifits, is their PRIME directive,

In other words , even though our military accadamies have educated many fine officers over the years, both the circirculum and the path to advancement have been co-opted by the big corporations ,in persuit of global domination. ON OUR DIME

the generals that get promoted are usually self agrandizing YES MEN. they look at those who do the real work with the same distain as the head of goldman sacs looks at the janitor. [ both work in the same bld, but the chairman needs the janitor to keep his bathroom clean and the lobby floor buffed--, where as the general needs some grunts to walk point and "take one for the gipper" so as to ensure THEIR continued position at the top of the heap and elite lifestyles]

YES!

That is why we need to drastically reduce our military down to the size it is need to do what it supposed to, defend our physical country.

We have a massive military complex who's interest is perpetual war, shearing the taxpayers and even more power.

It is inevitable that their pursuit of more power eventually would mean an assault on our Constitutional rights.




............juanni

[edporch]

Just because an individual serves honorably in the US military, doesn't make them immune from being a left wing idiot.

[JasonB]

And once again go peruse Mil & LE forums and you will find those who have not (may never) achieve a high ranking also casting their lot with the anti 2nd Amendment side. But they will tell you they are pro-gun...except for this, that, and the other.

[Dave Hume]

Originally Posted by RG Coburn

Real classy Stan...cashing a monthly check,compliments of John Q Taxpayer,and at the same time,advocating John lose more rights..
Same with Gabbity Giffords and space-boy hubby...

Three for three....good for you.

[Dave Hume]

Originally Posted by Illurian00

Like Thorack said,,,most general officers tend to be political animals, much like most police chiefs'.

And you boys forgot another 'real' general,,,Marine Major Gen'l., holder of two MoH,,,Smedley Butler....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0

Generals? HELL, anyone above light colonel....last US military officer that I personally knew and spoke with on a regular basis WHO WAS WORTH A DAMN AS A PATRIOT was Captain, US Army Reserve, who served two tours in Iraq...who was HONEST ENOUGH to to say to me "I don't know WTF we're doing there....it's not worth anyone's life." I listened A LOT to what he had to say. Another comment by him: "The bullshit if off the charts..."

BTW, we had these conversations at a gun club which we both belonged.

Perfumed Princes.....And you think the military is on YOUR SIDE? Oh...but then again, a lot of you ***** are so cathected to the military that the uniform gets you all goose-pimply and you figure it's some 'brother'...

Yeah...just like the cops.

[mutter]

First, this asshole was a ranger and not SF.

Second, all Army officers are political asswipes if they want to be promoted.

Third, all officers are subject to having their retirement canceled if they piss off the PTB.


From personal experience, most officers think that enlisted people are trash, stupid, or a combination of these two attributes. However, from my experience this is actually a reflective thought.

Most officers are college smart and life stupid!


As far as training goes in SF, the officers did not train with us peon enlisted people. They did not have to master the physical requirements we had to master or the actual physical or and they did not have to pass a mental capabilities exam like we had to pass.

Officer meant: arrogant elitist that was too far above us peons to be bothered with actually having a pair of balls, being able to admit you're wrong, or with having the ability to meet the standards you set for the peons.

[meltblown]

McChrystal...hmm thought it was some type of blow coming out at mickey d's. Anyway f*ck him too

[SWOHFAL]

I guess DABTL can actually impersonate a soldier believably....

[one hand clapping]

Mutter , Thanks for correcting me. I feel a "little" bit better that he wasn't group.

Oh and I saw the pass O's got at ranger school, so I prolly would'nt call him one, even if he did get the tab.

[SWOHFAL]

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ailure/309148/

This article even mentions Stan the gun banner as one of our most mediocre desk jockey generals.

Cliffs: Our generals blow and are mostly promotion seeking politicians and technocrats, while our soldiers are the best in the world and make up for a lot of crappy decisions made by generals and other senior officers with their tactical strength.

[JasonB]

Originally Posted by SWOHFAL

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ailure/309148/

This article even mentions Stan the gun banner as one of our most mediocre desk jockey generals.

Cliffs: Our generals blow and are mostly promotion seeking politicians and technocrats, while our soldiers are the best in the world and make up for a lot of crappy decisions made by generals and other senior officers with their tactical strength.

And you still might want to go peruse lightfighter to see how many of those soldiers are in line with the good general when it comes to your liberties.

[Munster30]

Originally Posted by SWOHFAL

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ailure/309148/

This article even mentions Stan the gun banner as one of our most mediocre desk jockey generals.

Cliffs: Our generals blow and are mostly promotion seeking politicians and technocrats, while our soldiers are the best in the world and make up for a lot of crappy decisions made by generals and other senior officers with their tactical strength.

Things haven't changed much since the 60's when I was in the military.
From my experience most senior officers are ladder climbing ass kissers, otherwise they'd not be where they are.

[raexcct2]

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ailure/309148/

This article even mentions Stan the gun banner as one of our most mediocre desk jockey generals.

That article must have been edited as McChrystal is not mentioned at all in this article.

[SWOHFAL]

Originally Posted by raexcct2

That article must have been edited as McChrystal is not mentioned at all in this article.

I swore that he was mentioned when I read the print edition, but maybe not. I know that Michael Yon had nothing good to say about him.