ishapore 2a1 wont chamber round all the way .

mosbysmen · January 07, 2013, 22:10

so i got this isshapore from aim a while back ,it was so plastered in cosmoline
i didnt shoot it before i tore it down to refinish . all the metal parts had been spray painted black and it was comming off .

a friend of mine offered to coat it for me ,i bought it for a shooter .
so i redid the stock while he coated it .
got it back put it all togther . bolt was really tight on the rail from the
coating .

bolt will close all the way with no round ,bolt closes almost all the way with a round . cant close it by hand but a rap with a rubber mallet will close it .
i thought maybe it had gotten coating in the barrel ,so i polished the chamber . still wont close with a round in the chamber .

i am thinking my buddy must have disassembled the bolt to coat it .
he got it all back togther but would this have changed the headspace by
taking it apart and putting it back together ?

**bykerhd** · January 07, 2013, 23:13

Headspace could well be the issue.
Firing pin protrusion is something you also really do need to check.
Especially if you are hammering the bolt closed.

Does the serial number of the bolt match the rifle ?
And, is the bolt head screwed all the way in to the bolt body ?

tywest · January 08, 2013, 05:55

Make sure the bolt head is screwed all the way in!!!!!

When the bolts off you can turn the bolt head off by unscrewing so one turn out could do what your describing.

And make sure its all clean and headspaced

mosbysmen · January 08, 2013, 07:06

yes all the parts on the 2a1 are matching #'s
i will check the other stuff

starbuck · January 08, 2013, 08:33

it may have a mismatched bolt head. some had head space issues so there was some bolt swapping going on at one time.

RG Coburn · January 08, 2013, 13:16

Will a round go into the chamber with just thumb pressure? No bolt,just pushing in with thumb or finger?

mosbysmen · January 08, 2013, 13:46

yes the round will slide right in without the bolt and if i tip the rifle up it slides right out .

tywest · January 08, 2013, 15:37

pictures?

Deltaten · January 08, 2013, 18:43

Probably the wrong bolt-head right from the importer. Couldn't have been that way from the factory!! LOL HSG and check the bolt-head! Numbered from 0 thru 4, IIRC don't know which fer way they go , tho

Gazz · January 08, 2013, 18:55

Is there any "coating" on the locking lug surfaces?

**Jon Frum** · January 08, 2013, 20:40

Just in case, from the good ole days.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=175174

Gazz · January 08, 2013, 20:41

Something curious just happened. I received an email saying that Jon Frum had responded to the thread. Usually the text of that response is shown in the email but this just had a link so I clicked the link - http://www.falfiles.com/forums/image...allink_ltr.gif. That just shows me a blue screen with a tiny folder in the middle that is partially open. When I go to the thread, there is no Jon Frum posting after mine, or anywhere in the thread. Weird. Wait, there it is. I'll check the link again. Which turns out not to be the same that was in my email. Still weird.

mosbysmen · January 08, 2013, 20:59

thanks for all the help , there was coating on the bolt face , on the back of the bolt face where it screws into the bolt , and it was not screwed all the
way in , i removed the coating from the both places and screwed the bolt
head in and it feeds with zero problems now .

i will pull out the gauges when i get a chance and check it ..

Ironhandjohn · January 08, 2013, 21:36

January 07, 2013, 22:10	#1
mosbysmen Senior Member Moderator FALaholic #: 782 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: louisana Posts: 2,356	ishapore 2a1 wont chamber round all the way . so i got this isshapore from aim a while back ,it was so plastered in cosmoline i didnt shoot it before i tore it down to refinish . all the metal parts had been spray painted black and it was comming off . a friend of mine offered to coat it for me ,i bought it for a shooter . so i redid the stock while he coated it . got it back put it all togther . bolt was really tight on the rail from the coating . bolt will close all the way with no round ,bolt closes almost all the way with a round . cant close it by hand but a rap with a rubber mallet will close it . i thought maybe it had gotten coating in the barrel ,so i polished the chamber . still wont close with a round in the chamber . i am thinking my buddy must have disassembled the bolt to coat it . he got it all back togther but would this have changed the headspace by taking it apart and putting it back together ? __________________ fio para bellator be the prepared warrior Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” ¯ Mark Twain "when you have integrity..... nothing else matters when you don't have integrity.... nothing else matters" Teach The Children This Simple Principle.... Bob Kelly "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW--What a Ride l

January 08, 2013, 07:06	#4
mosbysmen Senior Member Moderator FALaholic #: 782 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: louisana Posts: 2,356	yes all the parts on the 2a1 are matching #'s i will check the other stuff __________________ fio para bellator be the prepared warrior Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” ¯ Mark Twain "when you have integrity..... nothing else matters when you don't have integrity.... nothing else matters" Teach The Children This Simple Principle.... Bob Kelly "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW--What a Ride l

January 08, 2013, 08:33	#5
starbuck Registered FALaholic #: 26466 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: OHIO Posts: 706	it may have a mismatched bolt head. some had head space issues so there was some bolt swapping going on at one time. __________________ In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught.

January 08, 2013, 13:46	#7
mosbysmen Senior Member Moderator FALaholic #: 782 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: louisana Posts: 2,356	yes the round will slide right in without the bolt and if i tip the rifle up it slides right out . __________________ fio para bellator be the prepared warrior Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” ¯ Mark Twain "when you have integrity..... nothing else matters when you don't have integrity.... nothing else matters" Teach The Children This Simple Principle.... Bob Kelly "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW--What a Ride l

January 08, 2013, 18:43	#9
Deltaten Registered FALaholic #: 124 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lancaster, PA USA Posts: 8,500	Probably the wrong bolt-head right from the importer. Couldn't have been that way from the factory!! LOL HSG and check the bolt-head! Numbered from 0 thru 4, IIRC don't know which fer way they go , tho __________________ All or Nothing! Senator McCarthy was right! and as always......FYB!

January 07, 2013, 23:13	#2
bykerhd Dinosaur Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 2798 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Burlington Vermont area Posts: 13,262	Headspace could well be the issue. Firing pin protrusion is something you also really do need to check. Especially if you are hammering the bolt closed. Does the serial number of the bolt match the rifle ? And, is the bolt head screwed all the way in to the bolt body ?

January 08, 2013, 05:55	#3
tywest Registered FALaholic #: 66761 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West, GA Posts: 1,281	Make sure the bolt head is screwed all the way in!!!!! When the bolts off you can turn the bolt head off by unscrewing so one turn out could do what your describing. And make sure its all clean and headspaced

January 08, 2013, 13:16	#6
RG Coburn Registered FALaholic #: 27406 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,908	Will a round go into the chamber with just thumb pressure? No bolt,just pushing in with thumb or finger?

January 08, 2013, 15:37	#8
tywest Registered FALaholic #: 66761 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: West, GA Posts: 1,281	pictures?

January 08, 2013, 18:55	#10
Gazz Registered FALaholic #: 15159 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NH Posts: 1,937	Is there any "coating" on the locking lug surfaces? __________________ Gazz

January 08, 2013, 20:40	#11
Jon Frum Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 8473 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,265	Just in case, from the good ole days. http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=175174 __________________ "We must, indeed, all hang togather or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.": Ben Franklin Detain and Deport!

January 08, 2013, 20:41	#12
Gazz Registered FALaholic #: 15159 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NH Posts: 1,937	Something curious just happened. I received an email saying that Jon Frum had responded to the thread. Usually the text of that response is shown in the email but this just had a link so I clicked the link - http://www.falfiles.com/forums/image...allink_ltr.gif. That just shows me a blue screen with a tiny folder in the middle that is partially open. When I go to the thread, there is no Jon Frum posting after mine, or anywhere in the thread. Weird. Wait, there it is. I'll check the link again. Which turns out not to be the same that was in my email. Still weird. __________________ Gazz

January 08, 2013, 20:59	#13
mosbysmen Senior Member Moderator FALaholic #: 782 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: louisana Posts: 2,356	thanks for all the help , there was coating on the bolt face , on the back of the bolt face where it screws into the bolt , and it was not screwed all the way in , i removed the coating from the both places and screwed the bolt head in and it feeds with zero problems now . i will pull out the gauges when i get a chance and check it .. __________________ fio para bellator be the prepared warrior Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” ¯ Mark Twain "when you have integrity..... nothing else matters when you don't have integrity.... nothing else matters" Teach The Children This Simple Principle.... Bob Kelly "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW--What a Ride l

January 08, 2013, 21:36	#14
Ironhandjohn Registered FALaholic #: 11561 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: 1187 Hundertwasser Posts: 2,351	__________________ Stripping motivated people of their dignity and rubbing their noses in it... is a VERY bad idea!!

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