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Old January 07, 2013, 11:25   #1
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Plane ID Please

Can anybody ID these planes for me please?

I believe pic was taken late 1944, and the plane was doing carrier trials off San Diego at the time.



PS I don't know the designation for the plane, but I do know what makes it "special".
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Old January 07, 2013, 11:35   #2
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I'm no expert ,butr it reminds me of a german design.
I'll bite -what makes it special??
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Old January 07, 2013, 11:48   #3
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what makes it special??
Look closely at the rear of the plane, the front left plane shows it best.

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it reminds me of a german design
The Germans were WAY ahead of us with this technology.
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Old January 07, 2013, 11:55   #4
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Those are F8F Bearcat's. Grumman.
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Old January 07, 2013, 12:10   #5
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Interesting. They have a nose wheel and the main landing gear fold out not in like the F8F bearcat.
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OK, I have figured out the designation of the plane, here is another pic of it I found on the Internet



Pic is captioned- trials aboard USS Ranger, May 1945

It looks like my Grandpa's pics were taken at the same time(?)

Here is another of G-Pa's pics
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Old January 07, 2013, 12:33   #7
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It's a Ryan Fireball. Only 71 were produced. Had a mixed powerplant system using both a piston and a jet engine. Trials of this craft began in 1944.
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It's a Ryan Fireball. Only 71 were produced. Had a mixed powerplant system using both a piston and a jet engine. Trials of this craft began in 1944.
We have a winner!
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Wow, obscure. I learned something today.
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Old January 07, 2013, 13:16   #10
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_FR_Fireball
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Old January 07, 2013, 13:19   #11
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I think I can find a picture of the Ryan Fireball (never thought that would be a good name for a plane) flying with the recip engine off and the prop feathered. Ryan followed with the Dark Shark used a turboprop engine instead off the recip engine.
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Old January 07, 2013, 13:52   #12
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Proof you can learn something new everyday...great stuff.
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The Ryan FR-1 was a test bed for turbo chargers on radial piston engines to advance climb rates from deck to altitude, they had a 3 blade prop and the Grumman F-8 had a 4 blade prop that had a greater arch on a more powerful engine
The basic design profile was continued into the later development of the North American T-28 that the Navy and AF used for trainers and later as light ground attack fighters.
The original instigator of the FR-1 was said to be Adm John McCain Sr. from the Ryan A/C Co a long time supplier of naval training aircraft.
Air shows after WWII featured the F-8 and the twin engine F-7-F one of the pilots was from the small town I lived in, when he came home he farmed, drank beer anfd talked about airplanes and girls ,,, he knew a lot about airplanes.

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