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Old June 05, 2012, 09:43   #1
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Argy MKIV barrels, originally Bipod cut or no?

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I bought one the NOS Argy MK IV kits from Sarco and am curious, were they originally bipod cut or not? I know the uppers were seperated earlier and am curious about original configurations.

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Old June 05, 2012, 11:11   #2
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The barrel that came with my type IV is bipod cut. I have two others that came with the standard kits, one with open ears the other closed and both are bipod cut.
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Old June 05, 2012, 11:25   #3
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Modelo Mark IV's

The first Argentine Fals weren't bipod cut and plain muzzled, Then the later NON bipod cut barrels had the 22mm combo device, Then the Modelo Mark IV's/Fal II were bipod cut along with the Argentine made 50-61 Para's.
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Old June 05, 2012, 21:47   #5
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I saw a pre-ban all original Argentine 50.61 (long barrel para) sometime ago. It had a NON bipod cut barrel, combo device on the muzzle. I don't remember if the combo devcie was the plain style or like the Belgian/Imbel military style.

I remember clearly the barrel was not bipod cut, because I was wishing that it were bipod cut.

And, it had closed ear gas block. 150/250 meter rear sight.
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Ok,

I bought one the NOS Argy MK IV kits from Sarco and am curious, were they originally bipod cut or not? I know the uppers were seperated earlier and am curious about original configurations.

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I have a FAL MKIV Serial 00004 original all matching and the barrel is non-bipod cut. Just recently I was able to get all the matching parts for another FAL MKIV Serial 01066 and the barrel is non-bipod cut.
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Are the non bipod barrels chrome lined or do they just have chrome chambers?
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Are the non bipod barrels chrome lined or do they just have chrome chambers?
I looked at a couple I have and it looks like only the chambers are chrome lined....the muzzle color is definitely different from the chamber...but I'm no expert
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Is there a source for Argie bipods? As well, I'm new to the FAL and have an argy kit. How do I tell if it's bipod cut? I'd like to pick one up for my build if it is.
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Is there a source for Argie bipods? As well, I'm new to the FAL and have an argy kit. How do I tell if it's bipod cut? I'd like to pick one up for my build if it is.
AFAIK, the Argentine bipods are identical to the late FN 'pods. I'm under the impression that FN actually supplied all or at least most of the 'pods to Argentina, but there are others here who would know better than I if that is factual.

A non bipod cut barrel has one groove or "track" just forward of the gas block for the sling swivel band, whereas a bipod cut will have two - one for the swivel and one for the bipod.

I believe the bipods, while carried in inventory, were probably rarely issued for use or actually installed. Again, I'd be interested in confirming this.

As far as barrels go, there are plain muzzle open ear nonBC, threaded muzzle open ear BC and non BC, and threaded muzzle closed ear BC and nonBC, all 21' and AFAIK, all could be found non chrome, chrome chamber, and fully chromed. There were also 18" ( well, 17 5/8" ) barrels, all of those I've seen were threaded muzzle, closed ear, BC and fully chromed.
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I was told by the NCO's that our FAL's didnt have the bipods because of the possibility of becoming entangled in the rigging. But other non air transported units that had bipod cut barrels didnt have them either. That was 1976. Maybe later they did, but most pics of the troops in Malvinas didnt have any bipods. And some bipod cut (both open and closed ear) barreled rifles had non bipod cut hanguards. Pick your poison
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AFAIK, the Argentine bipods are identical to the late FN 'pods. I'm under the impression that FN actually supplied all or at least most of the 'pods to Argentina, but there are others here who would know better than I if that is factual.

A non bipod cut barrel has one groove or "track" just forward of the gas block for the sling swivel band, whereas a bipod cut will have two - one for the swivel and one for the bipod.

I believe the bipods, while carried in inventory, were probably rarely issued for use or actually installed. Again, I'd be interested in confirming this.

As far as barrels go, there are plain muzzle open ear nonBC, threaded muzzle open ear BC and non BC, and threaded muzzle closed ear BC and nonBC, all 21' and AFAIK, all could be found non chrome, chrome chamber, and fully chromed. There were also 18" ( well, 17 5/8" ) barrels, all of those I've seen were threaded muzzle, closed ear, BC and fully chromed.
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I am humbled by the depth of knowledge here...

And I love my argy. Took her deer hunting last week. She is perfect.
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Fmaps areextremely nice rifles that for the longest time were under appreciated and undervalued, IMHO.

Thanks for the first hand info, 4brigada -
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Old November 15, 2012, 23:06   #15
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Is this bipod cut? I'm thinking no.
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Is this bipod cut? I'm thinking no.
You are thinking correct. Not bipod cut.
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