Found a Belgian BAR in the lake today.

jefferyc22 · July 08, 2012, 18:27

Found it about 15 feet from shore while fly fishing. It's very sad.

**olgier** · July 08, 2012, 18:32

keep looking, the money bag has to be there somewhere.

newuser · July 08, 2012, 18:42

a little Kroil and it'll be good as new

jefferyc22 · July 08, 2012, 18:45

I'm curious if anyone has found a blued rifle in fresh water with a known period of time spent in the water.
Kinds cool to see how it never made it past the blueing in spots.

JasonB · July 08, 2012, 18:46

A Fudd got jacked up reading about Glock & similar torture tests.

jefferyc22 · July 08, 2012, 18:49

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Originally Posted by JasonB

A Fudd got jacked up reading about Glock & similar torture tests.

I SCUBA so I'm tempted to go dive this spot......maybe I'll find the hee haa Super Redhawk next?

randy762ak · July 08, 2012, 18:53

Any serial No# that you could have the cops check--Might be stolen/crime gun etc.???

jefferyc22 · July 08, 2012, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by randy762ak

Any serial No# that you could have the cops check--Might be stolen/crime gun etc.???

I scratched but never did find one on it....receiver was in real bad shape.
I called dispatch right after I found it who said a deputy "would probably call me"
We left and continued towards home. I got 2 voicemails as soon as I got back into reception saying they needed the weapon.
I waited for an hour down the road for a deputy to come pick it up.
This was a different county and the deputy literally had to cross the Cascade mountain range to come get it.....our county's are pretty big here.
The shift Sgt. said he had a drowning/robbery/theft unsolved in the area.
They gave me a property slip in case the weapon magically doesn't pop hot.
Altho a very interesting find and conversation piece I don't know if I would drive 125 mountain miles to go get it.

**brunop** · July 08, 2012, 19:25

Nice find, Jeffery!

It would be super cool if that thing could help solve a cold case of some sort.

masman · July 08, 2012, 19:57

you got me all excited when you said belgian BAR

still a cool find tho

jefferyc22 · July 08, 2012, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by brunop

Nice find, Jeffery!

It would be super cool if that thing could help solve a cold case of some sort.

I see your in Oregon. This was found at Odell lake.

Jarhead504 · July 08, 2012, 20:16

Realy? You found that in the water or is that a SARCO "Hand select" that you are showing off?

Jarhead504

AliYahu · July 08, 2012, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by masman

you got me all excited when you said belgian BAR

still a cool find tho

Me too!

Eli

FUUN063 · July 09, 2012, 17:07

Don't worry. That rifle did not feed right and had stripped threads. I just got tired of working on it and threw it into the pond, if only to feel better!!

Leland

**MK ULTRA** · July 09, 2012, 21:34

It's not in that bad of shape. Soak it in solvent for a few weeks and most of the rust should fall off.

That bolt looks good.

Barrel Not so good.

**Blackmore** · July 10, 2012, 07:51

So all those posts over the years about people losing their guns in tragic boating accidents are TRUE!

EinheitElf · July 10, 2012, 21:42

Sheeeeeit that'll buff right out, park it put some wood on it and GTG!

Hey I think it looks like some of the Rhodie FAL kits.. and they shoot fine..

Cool find though.... really wonder where the rest of the bits are..... get back in the water,get the snorkel!

**Hebrew Battle Rifle** · July 10, 2012, 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefferyc22

They gave me a property slip in case the weapon magically doesn't pop hot.
Altho a very interesting find and conversation piece I don't know if I would drive 125 mountain miles to go get it.

Since it is already yours, they can legally mail it to you. That is assuming that it is not stolen.

AGG · July 11, 2012, 09:16

That is an unusual find!!!

Tony

KoKodog · July 11, 2012, 17:20

if you get it back ........ do not start scraping & scrubbing, you will do more harm than good

take a big enough piece of PVC pipe that it will fit into, cap & seal the bottom

you need a 12 volt dc power source,
probably could get away with a trickle charger from Harbor freight and a small 12 volt battery

put the barreled action in the pipe, fill almost to the top of the barrel with a mild alkaline solution
and place a steel rod alongside but not touching the barreled action

rig a circuit with a 12 volt light bulb between the steel rod & the positive clamp of the trickle charger
and then clamp the negative clamp to the muzzle of the barrel

this is basically the same process that the Smithsonian uses to rejuvenate most ferrous metal items that need saved

chances are that you might even be able to shoot it and hit something smaller than a aircraft carrier

the electrolytic alkaline process changes the rust back to parent metal without destroying it

jefferyc22 · July 11, 2012, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoKodog

if you get it back ........ do not start scraping & scrubbing, you will do more harm than good

take a big enough piece of PVC pipe that it will fit into, cap & seal the bottom

you need a 12 volt dc power source,
probably could get away with a trickle charger from Harbor freight and a small 12 volt battery

put the barreled action in the pipe, fill almost to the top of the barrel with a mild alkaline solution
and place a steel rod alongside but not touching the barreled action

rig a circuit with a 12 volt light bulb between the steel rod & the positive clamp of the trickle charger
and then clamp the negative clamp to the muzzle of the barrel

this is basically the same process that the Smithsonian uses to rejuvenate most ferrous metal items that need saved

chances are that you might even be able to shoot it and hit something smaller than a aircraft carrier

the electrolytic alkaline process changes the rust back to parent metal without destroying it

Interesting.

**MK ULTRA** · July 11, 2012, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefferyc22

Interesting.

It will be if you get it back.

If you do, it will take awhile.

But hey thats cool, you may solve a crime.

**308bolt** · July 29, 2012, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoKodog

if you get it back ........ do not start scraping & scrubbing, you will do more harm than good

take a big enough piece of PVC pipe that it will fit into, cap & seal the bottom

you need a 12 volt dc power source,
probably could get away with a trickle charger from Harbor freight and a small 12 volt battery

put the barreled action in the pipe, fill almost to the top of the barrel with a mild alkaline solution
and place a steel rod alongside but not touching the barreled action

rig a circuit with a 12 volt light bulb between the steel rod & the positive clamp of the trickle charger
and then clamp the negative clamp to the muzzle of the barrel

this is basically the same process that the Smithsonian uses to rejuvenate most ferrous metal items that need saved

chances are that you might even be able to shoot it and hit something smaller than a aircraft carrier

the electrolytic alkaline process changes the rust back to parent metal without destroying it

You're bass ackwards with the terminals.

**308bolt** · July 29, 2012, 16:07

http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/ru..._derusting.htm

**SteelonSteel** · July 30, 2012, 09:53

Odd that it's a barreled action. What happened to the wood? I doubt it rotted off already if bluing is still showing. They still pick up wood stocks off of Galipoli. Worm eaten though.

I wonder if it was someone's project that wouldn't work.

Czechsix · July 31, 2012, 18:22

I'd give electrolysis a shot.

There's a guy over on Calguns that has a completely (and I do mean completely) rusted 1911 that he's been running the electrolysis on for a couple of weeks now. He's had amazing progress. It'd be worth a try. Still need a new barrel, either that or you'd have a great wall hanger with a story. Or maybe a lamp stand.

July 08, 2012, 18:27	#1
jefferyc22 Banned FALaholic #: 18245 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 3,447	Found a Belgian BAR in the lake today. Found it about 15 feet from shore while fly fishing. It's very sad.

July 08, 2012, 18:46	#5
JasonB Registered FALaholic #: 7430 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 90° N 0° W Posts: 9,203	A Fudd got jacked up reading about Glock & similar torture tests. __________________ On Romney's being anti-gun.."If Barney Frank ran for president, I wouldn't need him to tell me in a debate that he'd still be gay if elected."-Shlomo

July 08, 2012, 19:25	#9
brunop Refresh Key Masher Platinum Contributor FALaholic #: 17136 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: oregon Posts: 6,452	Nice find, Jeffery! It would be super cool if that thing could help solve a cold case of some sort. __________________ "I love you, Pluskat..." - brunop "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson "The constitutions of most of our states [and of the United States] assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property and freedom of the press." - Thomas Jefferson

July 08, 2012, 19:57	#10
masman Registered FALaholic #: 781 Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 5,652	you got me all excited when you said belgian BAR still a cool find tho __________________ somethings wrong with the world when the best rapper is white.the best golfer is black.the french think that the us is arrogant and the germans don't want to go to war

July 09, 2012, 21:34	#15
MK ULTRA Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 2382 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 3,240	It's not in that bad of shape. Soak it in solvent for a few weeks and most of the rust should fall off. That bolt looks good. Barrel Not so good. __________________ O $HIT MK ULTRA.....OUT..... They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin, Statesman and Inventor: 1759 Improvise, Adapt, Overcome.....

July 08, 2012, 18:32	#2
olgier Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 17951 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: maine Posts: 2,679	keep looking, the money bag has to be there somewhere.

July 08, 2012, 18:42	#3
newuser Registered FALaholic #: 65661 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 251	a little Kroil and it'll be good as new

July 08, 2012, 18:45	#4
jefferyc22 Banned FALaholic #: 18245 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 3,447	I'm curious if anyone has found a blued rifle in fresh water with a known period of time spent in the water. Kinds cool to see how it never made it past the blueing in spots.

July 08, 2012, 18:53	#7
randy762ak Registered FALaholic #: 25888 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: From the commie state of stinking NY Posts: 1,481	Any serial No# that you could have the cops check--Might be stolen/crime gun etc.???

July 08, 2012, 20:16	#12
Jarhead504 Registered FALaholic #: 65022 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Orleans Area,LA Posts: 348	Realy? You found that in the water or is that a SARCO "Hand select" that you are showing off? Jarhead504

July 09, 2012, 17:07	#14
FUUN063 Computer Illiterate Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 35576 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Converse, Indiana Posts: 4,570	Don't worry. That rifle did not feed right and had stripped threads. I just got tired of working on it and threw it into the pond, if only to feel better!! Leland

July 10, 2012, 07:51	#16
Blackmore Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 2690 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: West Central New Hampshire Posts: 4,379	So all those posts over the years about people losing their guns in tragic boating accidents are TRUE! __________________ A professional is someone who can do his best work when he doesn't feel like it.

July 10, 2012, 21:42	#17
EinheitElf Registered FALaholic #: 21533 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kommiefornia Posts: 2,179	Sheeeeeit that'll buff right out, park it put some wood on it and GTG! Hey I think it looks like some of the Rhodie FAL kits.. and they shoot fine.. Cool find though.... really wonder where the rest of the bits are..... get back in the water,get the snorkel! __________________ http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ue_stealth.gif

July 11, 2012, 09:16	#19
AGG Registered FALaholic #: 27127 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 533	That is an unusual find!!! Tony

July 11, 2012, 17:20	#20
KoKodog Registered FALaholic #: 31665 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: on top of a wind swept ridge Posts: 485	if you get it back ........ do not start scraping & scrubbing, you will do more harm than good take a big enough piece of PVC pipe that it will fit into, cap & seal the bottom you need a 12 volt dc power source, probably could get away with a trickle charger from Harbor freight and a small 12 volt battery put the barreled action in the pipe, fill almost to the top of the barrel with a mild alkaline solution and place a steel rod alongside but not touching the barreled action rig a circuit with a 12 volt light bulb between the steel rod & the positive clamp of the trickle charger and then clamp the negative clamp to the muzzle of the barrel this is basically the same process that the Smithsonian uses to rejuvenate most ferrous metal items that need saved chances are that you might even be able to shoot it and hit something smaller than a aircraft carrier the electrolytic alkaline process changes the rust back to parent metal without destroying it __________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to take refuge with those timid spirits that know neither victory, nor defeat. Teddy Roosvelt Pray for peace, but prepare for war. Winston Churchill

July 29, 2012, 16:07	#24
308bolt Heathen Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 19255 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 19,934	http://www.stovebolt.com/techtips/ru..._derusting.htm __________________ "The bandwagons rumble past. I sit here on the curb," ~ John Hartford ~ "Nil desperandum, -- Never Despair. That is a motto for you and me. All are not dead; and where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it." ~ Samuel Adams ~

July 30, 2012, 09:53	#25
SteelonSteel Senior Member Contributor FALaholic #: 18603 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 810	Odd that it's a barreled action. What happened to the wood? I doubt it rotted off already if bluing is still showing. They still pick up wood stocks off of Galipoli. Worm eaten though. I wonder if it was someone's project that wouldn't work.

July 31, 2012, 18:22	#26
Czechsix Registered FALaholic #: 17293 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kookifornia Posts: 536	I'd give electrolysis a shot. There's a guy over on Calguns that has a completely (and I do mean completely) rusted 1911 that he's been running the electrolysis on for a couple of weeks now. He's had amazing progress. It'd be worth a try. Still need a new barrel, either that or you'd have a great wall hanger with a story. Or maybe a lamp stand.

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