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the joker supposedly spend $15K on guns, ammo, armor etc..
James Holmes, the suspect in the shooting that killed 12 and injured 58 in a Colorado movie theater, spent $15,000 on weapons, ammunition and other equipment over the past several months and had 90 packages delivered to his workplace, a law-enforcement official said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-000-on-w.html ............juanni
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Let's see...AR, two Glock .40's and a remmy 870...$2,200
6,000 rnds ammo...let's say a conservative $3,000 Bet mag and assorted magazines, let's say $500 Armor and assorted ballistic gear $2,500 I only get $8,200...and that's overestimating. He must have been paying more than MSRP, unless his "explosive" goodies added up to more. Just watch, every freaking bulk purchase will be flagged from here on out. I wonder if my UPS guy already has the wheels turning?  Better yet, stupid Fed Ex driver dropped two cases of pmc .223 off at my neighbors house instead of mine. I was swearing as I worked with the lady on the phone to try and locate my "delivered" package. She asked what it was and I told her. If this had heppened after the Cinema shooting, she probably would have flagged me and called the feds.  Just like post 9/11, there will be hysteria and over reaction and a lot of wasted investigative time. But hey, it gets the guys out of the office and into the field. |
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http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-...te-penis-cops/
The psycho sob died his hair red, and had obviously gone insane, long ago. He knew he was the jokker and was going home. The cops are hiding his photos, and website info from us, because it washes the sand out from under their feet, regarding instant gun control. The booking pictures, paint Holmes as crazy as a loon, not a rational tea party person. They hate that. Thank god Holmes was such a wild example of a murderous sociopath. The pathological behavior of the Jokker, was heard by a gunrange owner, when Holmes tried to sound like the jokker, when answering questions by the range owner. A deep rasping voice was heard; THE JOKKER! The berserk guy who got Congressman Giffords, and Holmes may share a common delusion, so far unreported. Nidal Hassan and the recruiter shooter, also did it with a pistol. These psychos are mostly Libs and democrats. "It is never the person", but always the gun; and now "the costume", according to libs. Costumes will be banned, as they should be. Costumes that are way too easy, to put on quickly have to go. In a few days the Olympics will start, and maybe Israel will hit Hezzbollah; then this shit will all be flushed down the toilet where it belongs. |
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Haven't been paying attention, he had an AR 15, Rem 870, two glock 40s, bullet proof vest and teargas...was he a cop??
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The shitheads are interviewing persons of interest in regard to the case.
PERSONS OF INTEREST? Try the bastard who did it, fools. Likely, UPS will be destroyed for delivering ammo. Hollywood is probably putting tremendous pressure on the Colorado governor and cops and national media, to not DESTROY the money train for this movie. The entainment industry is doing everything it can to prevent us calling it, "THE BATMAN MURDERS!" This in truly, "THE BATMAN MURDERS". The last two in the movie series is hardly inspirational; it killed heath Ledger who went insane, for playing the Jokker. Like dealing with deep black magic and evil, such takes a toll on the imagination of most who delve into it. Removing basic mores and values to not killing, is what we do to soldiers of necessity, and what Hollywood is doing to our youth, for no good purpose. Some are quite vulnerable to taking on the burden of becoming evil and enjoying it. The slime have decided to find "other goats," and divert all attention from red haired JOKKER, and onto the gunowners. |
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http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_Ja...alse_flag.html
More shit on internet. Apparently there is speculation he was chosen for an assignment by the Fed funded group he was working for, in neuroscience studies. Supplied with expensive gear, he acted before he was completely ready, as the obama Jokker, acting "under the radar" to get gun control active; chapter two....he was supposed to die in the aftermath........... I have little patience with such crap, except when it comes to Obama and Holder.................. |
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Don't forget each shipment from Midway is $45 just for shipping and handling.
 It actually might be better to allow 100 round drums. If they made it mandatory from criminals to buy them you know they would be jamming up and thwarting crime everywhere. Who know's what else he bought. 10 100 round drums? How many regular mags? What kind of chemicals did he buy and did he use his lab at CU to buy things he shouldn't have been able to?
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There were 30 bombs set up in his apartment.
I don't care if he was a chemistry/physics major, like the unibomber; making bombs is damn hard, and he had no history. He also apparently never shot the guns, until he got to the theatre. 30 bombs? Hell, the semi trained weatherunderground blew up a townhouse in NYC during the 60's. Plenty of amateur bombers blow themselves up. It begs the question: WHO THE HELL TRAINED HIM? Was he brainwashed by a neuropsychiatry experiment he was part of? Did Obama fund it? The guy was a medical type klutz, not an electromechanical engineer or mechanic. Where are his cool cars and motorcycles and gearhead type hobbies and background? I fear he was selected, and he was helped in the bombing. It is clear that all of the apartment evidence was supposed to be blown sky high, and burn the place to the ground, obliterating all the NGO or Gov't evidence. He was also supposed to die in the shootout. He will have to expire by some sort of unexplained event, maybe in Federal Custody or in some soon to happen, planned escape attempt, where he is given guns, to protect Obama and his group. Fuckup again.....like F&F |
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When somebody loses their grasp on reality and is certain they are a fictional character more than likely they also lose their ability to focus. Why is this important? Well, if Mr Holmes could not put together a bomb in his sleep ( IE done this a thousand times and he has no need to focus) the ability to focus is extremely vital and I seriously doubt he had that. This guy must have been extremely excited and anxious the last few days. There is only one way that some one without explosives or electric circuit experience could have pulled off and not blown himself up with those dual triggered bombs and not been focused. He Had Help
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I'm with V guy and mountainman on this one. Did he really do his apartment by himself? Maybe...
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Lets wait and see EXACTLY what those "bombs" were - I'm as in tune for a FF as any of you but I KNOW the shit he used and had on his person is EASY to obtain - if the stuff in his apartment goes beyond what a smart guy can LEGALLY obtain on the internet then we can talk conspiracy - show me some C-4, or bio weapon grade bug and we'll talk.
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Hmm, maybe he was a dream sex machine and those equalled 90 ten packs of condoms because he wanted 900 extreme balloons! If you use the number of packages received as an indication of intent to harm then Wally World is the biggest terrorist in the world! Dumb a$$ assumption. You're better then this juanni! |
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I didn't write the story or make any assumptions, let alone any dumb ass ones. I only posted the news story, a verbatim snippet and link, AND AS ALWAYS questioned the news media accuracy by adding "SUPPOSEDLY". Ya dig?  ............juanni
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While watching this unfold, about the third thing I thought of was the date of th"O" and "H" bitch signing th UN gun ban. Smell dog dodo?
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We should ban video games then and movies too.
Then there's books! Lets ban any news about war zones also. That could be a bad influence. Hell, lets ban anything that even refers to violence. All that should be enough to change human nature, donch'a think?
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But it would be nice if the american public woke up to the dysfunctional crap that festering the anger and hatred that moved this nut to do the things he did. Why is the most anticipated film of the year filled with sadism and bizarre wacky killing? Why do people stand in line and pay $12 to see this shit? Why do some even take their small children and infants after midnight to such a thing? Why do parents buy and let their kids play those slashing and shooting videos unchecked for hours or days at a time? Why do the photos of most of the people outside the massacre site look like a bunch of overweight, poorly dressed slobs, who probably have next to zero financial resources and shouldn't be paying $12 to be entertained for 2 hours? Nope, this dysfunctional mess isn't going to be fixed by passing a new law. .............juanni
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A friend of mine just sent this via email. It's on twitter.
BREAKING: Holder to Announce Significant Law Enforcement Matter at 2:30PM EDT News Conference U.S. Attorney General Holder to announce "significant law enforcement matter" at 2:30 p.m. ET news conference in Philadelphia Colo. Shooting related?
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Let's change the title of this thread to something like, "the sociopathic little prick...," or something...
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They should just give everybody a drug that makes them think peace and work hard.
Naw, unconstitutional, it would make people work against their will.
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Mayor Nutter said there will be a new violence reduction initiative using greater coordination of local and federal law enforcement. Attorney General Holder said the Violent Crime Reduction Partnership, is targeting violent crime areas & supports local law enforcement. AG Holder said coordination of law enforcement activities in times of fiscal challengesis very important now. PICTURE AT https://twitter.com/#!/jaramogi/medi...com%2Foe4tlfij Some talk on the net that AG might be referring to this kind of partnership: Marine Corps creates law enforcement battalions CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (AP) -- The Marine Corps has created its first law enforcement battalions - a lean, specialized force of military police officers that it hopes can quickly deploy worldwide to help investigate crimes from terrorism to drug trafficking and train fledgling security forces in allied nations. The Corps activated three such battalions last month. Each is made up of roughly 500 military police officers and dozens of dogs. The Marine Corps has had police battalions off and on since World War II but they were primarily focused on providing security, such as accompanying fuel convoys or guarding generals on visits to dangerous areas, said Maj. Jan Durham, commander of the 1st Law Enforcement Battalion at Camp Pendleton. The idea behind the law enforcement battalions is to consolidate the military police and capitalize on their investigative skills and police training, he said. The new additions come as every branch in the military is trying to show its flexibility and resourcefulness amid defense cuts. Marines have been increasingly taking on the role of a street cop along with their combat duties over the past decade in Iraq and Afghanistan, where they have been in charge of training both countries' security forces. Those skills now can be used as a permanent part of the Marine Corps, Durham said. The war on terror has also taught troops the importance of learning how to gather intelligence, secure evidence and assist local authorities in building cases to take down criminal networks. Troops have gotten better at combing raid sites for clues to help them track insurgents. They also have changed their approach, realizing that marching into towns to show force alienates communities. Instead, they are being taught to fan out with interpreters to strike up conversations with truck drivers, money exchangers, cellphone sellers and others. The rapport building can net valuable information that could even alert troops about potential attacks. But no group of Marines is better at that kind of work than the Corps' military police, who graduate from academies just like civilian cops, Durham said. He said the image of military police patrolling base to ticket Marines for speeding or drinking has limited their use in the Corps. He hopes the creation of the battalions will change that, although analysts say only the future will tell whether the move is more than just a rebranding of what already existed within the Corps. The battalions will be capable of helping control civil disturbances, handling detainees, carrying out forensic work, and using biometrics to identify suspects. Durham said they could assist local authorities in allied countries in securing crime scenes and building cases so criminals end up behind bars and not back out on the streets because of mistakes. "Over the past 11 years of combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, some lessons learned painfully, there has been a growing appreciation and a demand for, on the part of the warfighter, the unique skills and capabilities that MPs bring to the fight," Durham said. "We do enforce traffic laws and we do write reports and tickets, and that's good, but we do so much more than that." Durham said the Marine Corps plans to show off its new battalions in Miami later this month at a conference put on by the Southern Command and that is expected to be attended by government officials from Central American countries, such as Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador and Belize. Defense analyst Loren Thompson said the battalions make sense given the nature of today's global threats, which include powerful drug cartels and other criminal gangs that often mix with religious and political extremists, who use the profits to buy their weaponry. "This is a smart idea because the biggest single problem the Marines have in dealing with low-intensity types of threats is that they basically are trained to kill people," he said. "It's good for the Marines to have skills that allow them to contain threats without creating casualties." 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Over 30 improvised bombs, it is said. Knowing from past experience just how twisted and incredible the MSM has been in gun cases; just what do ya believe was/is really in that apartment?
Booby traps? OK.. show me the FM that he used or shaddafugkup ! Show me the detailed webpages that he emulated! I've read a lot of those too and they leave a buncha shit to be desired for full effect to be achieved without a LOT of trial and error testing. When the MSM and the FOP calls a brick of .22 and a couple AK mags an "arsenal"...what ken ya expect? Get me the signed and notarized statement from/by a real, recognized mil-spec EOD guy and I MIGHT pay attention. The new 2nd A battle cry..... "All or nothing" They are gonna want to ban anything and everything this nut ball had or even had wet dreams over; but they sure a s hell will not wanna blame )and prosecute/penalize) him. Betcha dollars ta donuts he won;'t get the 180 day needle that OKC bomber got...or will he???
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Any kid with a library card can find out WAY too much information on explosives and bomb making and improvised ways of making of the chemicals needed. Some real simple some more involved and required focus and certain knowledge. Heck I did it 20 years ago, luckily I was smart (scared) enough to make the 'good' stuff but I had all the info right there in front of me thanks to the public library. Yeah sure the accounts of the apartment were probably way over blown by all involved. 'He had 30 party poppers taped to the door' isn't very news worthy and doesn't get me the next promiotion on the force or justify the new equipment that I think is way cool and I want to play with. |
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Living for two months in a bomb ridden apt, and not setting even one off accidently, is way beyond any sort of statistical analysis.
The stuff was complicated enough for a guy who did not know how to shoot guns or clear a jam, that it begs credulity. It smacks of a stooge set up for the UN treaty. He WAS supposed to die in the shootout. Wait until they find Holders phone number on his computer. |
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Most grad students receive some kind of stipend, usually research or teaching assistanceships. These monies often come from the hosting professor they work under and are obtained from research grants the professor receives from NSF, DOD, etc...
Federal funding of scientific research is the norm. |
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V guy, thats what I've been trying to say. Ten dollars says we never see a picture of the inside of his appartment until they get everything laid out real neat. No one will complain when they quickly dispose of him without debriefing.
People will want the UN treaty so this can Neeeever happen again. They will just replace the hard drive in his computer with the correct one.
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Holder needs a giant sized cup of "shut the fuk up" and a side order of "Get the fuk out". Nobody with half a brain believes anything he says. sigh.........guess that means 80% of the US still believes him. 
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How come this guy is getting paraded around on the MSM and all the nightly news stations with live court room feeds but Loughner was a still shot in the press? The circus that is being created over this right before the presidential election and the small arms treaty is awfully convenient.
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Originally posted by VonFireball on 10/26/2012 Actually you, Jason B, and Herr Goebbels are pretty much the only communists on this board. |
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