M1 Garand Experts: Some Questions About My 1943....To Make Correct Or Not?

Bigger_Is_Better · July 06, 2012, 20:43

I got this 1943 Garand from the CMP around 2007. I haven't messed with it much other than to clean the stock up a bit. It was originally so bad it would give me splinters. I know the rear sight isn't right, but that's about the extent of my knowledge. Anyway, financial times are tough (just bought a transferable M16) and I'm thinking about selling it. My questions are:

1. How incorrect is it?

2. What do I need to do to make it correct?

3. Is it worth it to "correct" it?

4. What should I ask for it in current state vs. "corrected" state?

Thank You!!

LEArmorer · July 06, 2012, 20:51

I'm thinking the barrel and stock could be original to 1943. Looks like it was ovehauled in the 60's.

**Seaweed** · July 06, 2012, 21:03

You have a nice rebuilt service grade rifle. The op rod is post war, not sure about the other parts. The barrel looks fresh with a excellent muzzle. Out here that rifle would go for $750 plus or minus. With a refinished receiver and barrel it can never be original,but I guess it could be correct.

Keep it as a nice example of an arsenal rebuild.

Bigger_Is_Better · July 06, 2012, 21:17

That's about what I was figuring. The only thing I wasn't sure about was that it still had the original barrel and it was actually tight. I may get a lock bar to get that WWII look, but I'd still keep these parts.

Thanks,
Aaron

Tuscan Raider · July 06, 2012, 21:22

You could go more broke trying to make a Garand original.
Op rods can go for $200 +!

Does it shoot good?
This is all that really matters.

I think it looks just fine.

AliYahu · July 07, 2012, 22:42

I'd keep it as-is, whether you sell it or not. "Corrected" guns usually cost a fortune to do, and unless rare or early don't bring a profit.

Eli

Super B · July 08, 2012, 05:41

My Blue Sky Garand needed a new stock and barrel. Rather than trying to force a "correct" gun together, I went with a new CMP stock and Citadel barrel. I also put in some NOS feeding parts.

Now it is handsome, solid, and shoots tight. That is what Garands were supposed to do.

Orlando8 · July 08, 2012, 06:43

Its been refinished and rebuilt in the 60's. Even if you did the costly build it would not be worth what you had in it unless you broke it down and sold the parts individually

partisan50 · July 08, 2012, 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuscan Raider

You could go more broke trying to make a Garand original.
Op rods can go for $200 +!

Does it shoot good?
This is all that really matters.

I think it looks just fine.

Exactly! You will spend twice as much trying to "restore" it to original condition , then you won't want to shoot it and it will sit in the safe. Just shoot it and enjoy the piece of history.

**MAINER** · July 08, 2012, 14:16

You could put a single slot "Gas Cylinder Lock Screw" on it to be a bit more correct if you like.

I'm doing this change on my "42", but only cause it's a fairly cheap part and Im ordering a new Op Rod spring from Brownell's anyway.

jbburrows · July 08, 2012, 14:59

Very nice post-war rebuild. Another vote to leave it as is. Lots of history even in the rebuilds.

shlomo · July 08, 2012, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super B

My Blue Sky Garand needed a new stock and barrel. Rather than trying to force a "correct" gun together, I went with a new CMP stock and Citadel barrel. I also put in some NOS feeding parts.

Now it is handsome, solid, and shoots tight. That is what Garands were supposed to do.

This ^^

Make it tight, new and beautiful, and enjoy it for a lifetime.

**tdb59** · July 08, 2012, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by shlomo

Make it tight, new and beautiful, and enjoy it for a lifetime.

Younger , or cosmetic surgery ?

OH ! RIFLES !

Yeah....rifles....

shlomo · July 08, 2012, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdb59

Younger , or cosmetic surgery ?

OH ! RIFLES !

Yeah....rifles....

Right. I'm so old and ugly, I couldn't give Rosie O'Donnel the vapors with DakTo's money and a case of tunafish.

**Hebrew Battle Rifle** · July 08, 2012, 17:23

Whenever I read that "making it correct" silliness on other forums, I always think of a recently departed Normandy vet that had the good fortune to survive D DAY till the end carrying the same M1 rifle. He brought it home legally and had the transfer papers to prove it. It was a mixmaster rifle even at that point in time.
How goofy would it be to disassemble such a rifle and "make it correct?"
If it is an M1 Garand with all USGI parts on it, it is "correct." If it is fully assembled, functioning, and will hit a 6 inch circle @ 100 yards, it is serviceable. Anything more is just perfume and lip stick.

randy762ak · July 08, 2012, 17:59

ITEM # DESCRIPTION PRICE
RM1WRAF M1 Garand, WRA (Winchester) Field Grade
Please allow 30-60 days for delivery
*See above for grade description $695
S&H $24.95 per rifle
RM1SAF M1 Garand, SA (Springfield) Field Grade
Please allow 30-60 days for delivery
*See above for grade description $525 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle
RM1HRAF M1 Garand, HRA (Harrington & Richardson)
Field Grade
Please allow 30-60 days for delivery
*See above for grade description $525 Effective 1-3-2012
S&H $24.95 per rifle

From the CMP site today!!!!

http://odcmp.com/Sales/m1garand.htm

Personally-----If you can afford a transferable M-16 I think you can afford to keep the M1 also

Orlando8 · July 08, 2012, 18:14

Personally I would not take the chance on a mail order Field Grade
By Grade description the barrel my be very worn and need replaced
I have personally handled mnay FG Garands at the North Store and if you look through all of them you may find 1-3 that would make good shooters. Most of them will swallow a Muzzle Gauge ,I have seen them up to a 6-7
Best deal for the money is the $625 Service Grades

PA Garand Boy · July 08, 2012, 20:03

"Correcting" fully functional M1 rifles = Pi$$ing on John Garand's grave.

JeffJ · July 08, 2012, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by shlomo

Right. I'm so old and ugly, I couldn't give Rosie O'Donnel the vapors with DakTo's money and a case of tunafish.

For once we completely agree..

shlomo · July 09, 2012, 05:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffJ

For once we completely agree..

Yeah, like you got any room to talk. At least yer young...

JeffJ · July 09, 2012, 07:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by shlomo

At least yer young...

Young, no

younger..yes

V guy · July 09, 2012, 19:52

Receiver and bbl are likely correct. I have one that is 1470xxx, with 3-43 bbl.

It would take maybe $750 to make your gun correct, but it would still have that rebuild scratch on the receiver.

Lots of guys restore Garands. Scott Duffs Books are the most accepted resource for that stuff.

Lots of guys restore cars and build hot rods.
There is no law that says you cannot dump money into projects and not get it back.

I have several very correct garands; as built------- by buying every correct part off gunbroker!! I'll never tell!! As unk brought it home. Yep!!
If the gun comes out right and looks right, it is a success.

I have a correct one from 1945, that I am not that satisfied with, and it will become a mixmaster .308.

In the case of your gun, do what you want: for the time being, I would put a new cmp or Dupage Trading co stock on it, until you want to change something, to a more correct status.

Jarhead504 · July 10, 2012, 19:36

I received a '43 Winchester from CMP years ago that looked as if it was at Guadalcanal, Okinowa and Iwo Jima. It was rough, but a great shooter! I did have if refinished as my OCD couldn't live with it having as many colors as a Mardi Gras float. Some folks would say, "you ruined it", but its my rifle and it shoots well.

I did have a gunsmith gauge it enitrely for me. He said that it is in the same shape and specs as a rifle that would have been issued to a USGI in WWII. It's my only M-1 and it works. Don't change yours.

Super B · July 11, 2012, 10:57

What if you get a "correct" barrel and now it won't shoot for crap?

Tat2 · July 11, 2012, 21:17

I would not waste the time/money due to the barrel and receiver being reparked and with the rebuild marks..... just shoot the snot out of it....rebarrel...and repeat.

T

**ac7120** · July 13, 2012, 13:56

Yep, I agree...leave it alone because it looks fine. Enjoy it the way it is, and actually, I think it's worth a little more than the $750 I saw posted, but then again, it's only worth what someone would pay for it. Nice rifle.

Blaster · July 13, 2012, 15:26

A "correct" Garand has to be damn rare. I was a small arms repairman back in the U.S. Army 1955 - 1958 and you know that when we needed a part to replace something on the Garands, we NEVER NEVER looked in or fished around in the parts bin in an effort to make the rifle "correct". Shoot that baby and enjoy it and don't worry about making it look "correct" as they are the best battle rifle ever made.

randy762ak · July 13, 2012, 19:40

A "correct" Garand has to be damn rare.

John G. Looked upon me from above when I ordered a rifle from CMP years ago,, $200.00 when it came I was hoping for an IH But as I opened the package an All OE untouched Winchester -WIN -13 emerged !!! WOW!!!!!

Blaster · July 15, 2012, 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by randy762ak

A "correct" Garand has to be damn rare.

I opened the package an All OE untouched Winchester -WIN -13 emerged !!! WOW!!!!!

Like I said, damn RARE!

Orlando8 · July 15, 2012, 20:03

Post War all original are not rare at all ( I have two) , all original WWII are rare but they do exist

OHShooter · July 21, 2012, 13:00

I'll start out by saying that this is only my opinion but....

Taking the time and going to the expense of making a Garand "Correct" is a big waste of time and money that could be better spent shooting and buying ammo. Anybody with even a little knowledge of the history of the M1 is going to know that with few exceptions they have just about all been rebuilt at some point in their service life. During this rebuild there was little or more likely no effort made to keep them "correct"

Another issue is whether a particular rifle has all of the "original" parts or merely the "correct" parts. A few years ago the CMP found a few brand new, never issued M1s in the some of the ones returned from overseas (I think it was Greece but don't hold me to it) These were not sold in the usual manner but were sold at auction. I forget what they eventually sold for but it was way north of my price range.

The point is that they sold for a very steep premium because they were known and documented to be in factory new condition rather than to have been made up of a bunch of parts scavenged from a number of other rifles that happened to have been made at nearly the same time.

Having a "correct" Garand M1 may be something nice to have but I certainly wouldn't pay much of a premium just to say I had one. Even then I would need sometime more than the story that your uncle brought it back from the war to verify that it wasn't just a pats gun. After all the one I have was personally given to my uncle by John Garand himself.

kar66 · August 14, 2012, 14:12

Take it from a guy that spent a lot of money making WW11 weapons correct. Mostly M1 Carbines, but also M1s,03s,type99s and K98ks. It will give you a lot of self satisfaction, but most people that will pay top dollar can tell correct from original. I still change a part now and then if I find them at a good price. But I don't pay what most of the sellers think they are worth. I started this in the early 80s when parts were plentiful and a lot cheeper. The imports in the 90s changed all that. The extra parts dryed up and got a lot higher. The thing to remember is you can always make them correct, but they can only be original when they are original. Those a the ones that everybody wants.

Nobody · August 14, 2012, 20:08

I'd like to bring up something that everyone else has apparently over looked. It appears from the photos, that you need to sharpen your lawn mower blade(s). I see a lot of busted up grass tips. No clean cuts. Maybe even water yer lawn.
Carry on citizen.

bubbagump · August 15, 2012, 07:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigger_Is_Better

I got this 1943 Garand from the CMP around 2007. I haven't messed with it much other than to clean the stock up a bit. It was originally so bad it would give me splinters. I know the rear sight isn't right, but that's about the extent of my knowledge. Anyway, financial times are tough (just bought a transferable M16) and I'm thinking about selling it. My questions are:

1. How incorrect is it?

2. What do I need to do to make it correct?

3. Is it worth it to "correct" it?

4. What should I ask for it in current state vs. "corrected" state?

Thank You!!

Ok, I'll weigh in, probably only to echo a lot of what's already been said.

1. If you can put 20 consecutive holes in a four inch circle with it every time you pull the trigger from 100 yards away, if it cycles reliably and the rear sight is manageable and stays where you put it it's correct in my book. Others will certainly disagree.

2. Unknown, possibly nothing.

3. If it needs correcting, absolutely.

4. Assuming this rifle is in good working order you might get five or six hundred bucks for it as-is. No idea what someone might pay for a date-matched partsbag if you were to assemble one, that'd depend on your customer I suppose. But I doubt you can gain much monetary premium by swapping out pieces particularly if you have to go buy the parts.

b.

July 06, 2012, 20:43	#1
Bigger_Is_Better Registered FALaholic #: 4906 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Battlefield, MO Posts: 3,925	M1 Garand Experts: Some Questions About My 1943....To Make Correct Or Not? I got this 1943 Garand from the CMP around 2007. I haven't messed with it much other than to clean the stock up a bit. It was originally so bad it would give me splinters. I know the rear sight isn't right, but that's about the extent of my knowledge. Anyway, financial times are tough (just bought a transferable M16) and I'm thinking about selling it. My questions are: 1. How incorrect is it? 2. What do I need to do to make it correct? 3. Is it worth it to "correct" it? 4. What should I ask for it in current state vs. "corrected" state? Thank You!! __________________ "bipity, bopity, bacon!" Jim Gaffigan When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Science has questions that can't be answered. Religion has answers that can't be questioned.

July 06, 2012, 21:17	#4
Bigger_Is_Better Registered FALaholic #: 4906 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Battlefield, MO Posts: 3,925	That's about what I was figuring. The only thing I wasn't sure about was that it still had the original barrel and it was actually tight. I may get a lock bar to get that WWII look, but I'd still keep these parts. Thanks, Aaron __________________ "bipity, bopity, bacon!" Jim Gaffigan When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Science has questions that can't be answered. Religion has answers that can't be questioned.

July 06, 2012, 21:22	#5
Tuscan Raider Registered FALaholic #: 19668 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 2,963	You could go more broke trying to make a Garand original. Op rods can go for $200 +! Does it shoot good? This is all that really matters. I think it looks just fine. __________________ "An eye for an eye makes us all blind." Ghandi "We, here in America, hold in our hands the hopes of the world, the fate of the coming years; and shame and disgrace will be ours if in our eyes the light of high resolve is dimmed, if we trail in the dust the golden hopes of men." Theodore Roosevelt Address at Carnegie Hall March 30, 1912

July 08, 2012, 05:41	#7
Super B Registered FALaholic #: 404 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tallahassee, FL,, USA Posts: 1,653	My Blue Sky Garand needed a new stock and barrel. Rather than trying to force a "correct" gun together, I went with a new CMP stock and Citadel barrel. I also put in some NOS feeding parts. Now it is handsome, solid, and shoots tight. That is what Garands were supposed to do. __________________ There's nothing more dangerous than a colossal, bankrupt, and well-armed government---Porter Stansberry

July 08, 2012, 14:16	#10
MAINER Old Fart Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 18465 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 6,351	You could put a single slot "Gas Cylinder Lock Screw" on it to be a bit more correct if you like. I'm doing this change on my "42", but only cause it's a fairly cheap part and Im ordering a new Op Rod spring from Brownell's anyway. __________________ Joe Biden for President.

July 06, 2012, 20:51	#2
LEArmorer Registered FALaholic #: 32440 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: northern Illinois Posts: 7	I'm thinking the barrel and stock could be original to 1943. Looks like it was ovehauled in the 60's.

July 06, 2012, 21:03	#3
Seaweed Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 2736 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Newport, OR Posts: 1,288	You have a nice rebuilt service grade rifle. The op rod is post war, not sure about the other parts. The barrel looks fresh with a excellent muzzle. Out here that rifle would go for $750 plus or minus. With a refinished receiver and barrel it can never be original,but I guess it could be correct. Keep it as a nice example of an arsenal rebuild.

July 07, 2012, 22:42	#6
AliYahu Registered FALaholic #: 11084 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 1,332	I'd keep it as-is, whether you sell it or not. "Corrected" guns usually cost a fortune to do, and unless rare or early don't bring a profit. Eli

July 08, 2012, 06:43	#8
Orlando8 Registered FALaholic #: 38748 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 135	Its been refinished and rebuilt in the 60's. Even if you did the costly build it would not be worth what you had in it unless you broke it down and sold the parts individually

July 08, 2012, 14:59	#11
jbburrows Registered FALaholic #: 52485 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SoCAL Posts: 2	Nice post war M1 Very nice post-war rebuild. Another vote to leave it as is. Lots of history even in the rebuilds.

July 08, 2012, 17:23	#15
Hebrew Battle Rifle Horses Ass Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 5777 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Arkansas Posts: 6,858	Whenever I read that "making it correct" silliness on other forums, I always think of a recently departed Normandy vet that had the good fortune to survive D DAY till the end carrying the same M1 rifle. He brought it home legally and had the transfer papers to prove it. It was a mixmaster rifle even at that point in time. How goofy would it be to disassemble such a rifle and "make it correct?" If it is an M1 Garand with all USGI parts on it, it is "correct." If it is fully assembled, functioning, and will hit a 6 inch circle @ 100 yards, it is serviceable. Anything more is just perfume and lip stick. __________________ THANK YOU JESUS

July 08, 2012, 17:59	#16
randy762ak Registered FALaholic #: 25888 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: From the commie state of stinking NY Posts: 1,516	ITEM # DESCRIPTION PRICE RM1WRAF M1 Garand, WRA (Winchester) Field Grade Please allow 30-60 days for delivery See above for grade description $695 S&H $24.95 per rifle RM1SAF M1 Garand, SA (Springfield) Field Grade Please allow 30-60 days for delivery See above for grade description $525 Effective 1-3-2012 S&H $24.95 per rifle RM1HRAF M1 Garand, HRA (Harrington & Richardson) Field Grade Please allow 30-60 days for delivery *See above for grade description $525 Effective 1-3-2012 S&H $24.95 per rifle From the CMP site today!!!! http://odcmp.com/Sales/m1garand.htm Personally-----If you can afford a transferable M-16 I think you can afford to keep the M1 also

July 08, 2012, 18:14	#17
Orlando8 Registered FALaholic #: 38748 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 135	Personally I would not take the chance on a mail order Field Grade By Grade description the barrel my be very worn and need replaced I have personally handled mnay FG Garands at the North Store and if you look through all of them you may find 1-3 that would make good shooters. Most of them will swallow a Muzzle Gauge ,I have seen them up to a 6-7 Best deal for the money is the $625 Service Grades

July 08, 2012, 20:03	#18
PA Garand Boy Registered FALaholic #: 7504 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 184	"Correcting" fully functional M1 rifles = Pi$$ing on John Garand's grave.

July 09, 2012, 19:52	#22
V guy Registered FALaholic #: 10282 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: miami Posts: 8,337	Receiver and bbl are likely correct. I have one that is 1470xxx, with 3-43 bbl. It would take maybe $750 to make your gun correct, but it would still have that rebuild scratch on the receiver. Lots of guys restore Garands. Scott Duffs Books are the most accepted resource for that stuff. Lots of guys restore cars and build hot rods. There is no law that says you cannot dump money into projects and not get it back. I have several very correct garands; as built------- by buying every correct part off gunbroker!! I'll never tell!! As unk brought it home. Yep!! If the gun comes out right and looks right, it is a success. I have a correct one from 1945, that I am not that satisfied with, and it will become a mixmaster .308. In the case of your gun, do what you want: for the time being, I would put a new cmp or Dupage Trading co stock on it, until you want to change something, to a more correct status.

July 10, 2012, 19:36	#23
Jarhead504 Registered FALaholic #: 65022 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: New Orleans Area,LA Posts: 381	I received a '43 Winchester from CMP years ago that looked as if it was at Guadalcanal, Okinowa and Iwo Jima. It was rough, but a great shooter! I did have if refinished as my OCD couldn't live with it having as many colors as a Mardi Gras float. Some folks would say, "you ruined it", but its my rifle and it shoots well. I did have a gunsmith gauge it enitrely for me. He said that it is in the same shape and specs as a rifle that would have been issued to a USGI in WWII. It's my only M-1 and it works. Don't change yours.

July 11, 2012, 10:57	#24
Super B Registered FALaholic #: 404 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tallahassee, FL,, USA Posts: 1,653	What if you get a "correct" barrel and now it won't shoot for crap? __________________ There's nothing more dangerous than a colossal, bankrupt, and well-armed government---Porter Stansberry

July 11, 2012, 21:17	#25
Tat2 Registered FALaholic #: 52329 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 920	I would not waste the time/money due to the barrel and receiver being reparked and with the rebuild marks..... just shoot the snot out of it....rebarrel...and repeat. T __________________ Moi aussi, je t'aime Pluskat.....

July 13, 2012, 13:56	#26
ac7120 Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 63517 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 134	Yep, I agree...leave it alone because it looks fine. Enjoy it the way it is, and actually, I think it's worth a little more than the $750 I saw posted, but then again, it's only worth what someone would pay for it. Nice rifle. __________________ Sarge

July 13, 2012, 15:26	#27
Blaster Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 11913 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Out in the hills in Colorado Posts: 5,523	A "correct" Garand has to be damn rare. I was a small arms repairman back in the U.S. Army 1955 - 1958 and you know that when we needed a part to replace something on the Garands, we NEVER NEVER looked in or fished around in the parts bin in an effort to make the rifle "correct". Shoot that baby and enjoy it and don't worry about making it look "correct" as they are the best battle rifle ever made.

July 13, 2012, 19:40	#28
randy762ak Registered FALaholic #: 25888 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: From the commie state of stinking NY Posts: 1,516	A "correct" Garand has to be damn rare. John G. Looked upon me from above when I ordered a rifle from CMP years ago,, $200.00 when it came I was hoping for an IH But as I opened the package an All OE untouched Winchester -WIN -13 emerged !!! WOW!!!!!

July 15, 2012, 20:03	#30
Orlando8 Registered FALaholic #: 38748 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 135	Post War all original are not rare at all ( I have two) , all original WWII are rare but they do exist

July 21, 2012, 13:00	#31
OHShooter Registered FALaholic #: 9234 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 74	I'll start out by saying that this is only my opinion but.... Taking the time and going to the expense of making a Garand "Correct" is a big waste of time and money that could be better spent shooting and buying ammo. Anybody with even a little knowledge of the history of the M1 is going to know that with few exceptions they have just about all been rebuilt at some point in their service life. During this rebuild there was little or more likely no effort made to keep them "correct" Another issue is whether a particular rifle has all of the "original" parts or merely the "correct" parts. A few years ago the CMP found a few brand new, never issued M1s in the some of the ones returned from overseas (I think it was Greece but don't hold me to it) These were not sold in the usual manner but were sold at auction. I forget what they eventually sold for but it was way north of my price range. The point is that they sold for a very steep premium because they were known and documented to be in factory new condition rather than to have been made up of a bunch of parts scavenged from a number of other rifles that happened to have been made at nearly the same time. Having a "correct" Garand M1 may be something nice to have but I certainly wouldn't pay much of a premium just to say I had one. Even then I would need sometime more than the story that your uncle brought it back from the war to verify that it wasn't just a pats gun. After all the one I have was personally given to my uncle by John Garand himself.

August 14, 2012, 14:12	#32
kar66 Registered FALaholic #: 63420 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 31	Correct? Take it from a guy that spent a lot of money making WW11 weapons correct. Mostly M1 Carbines, but also M1s,03s,type99s and K98ks. It will give you a lot of self satisfaction, but most people that will pay top dollar can tell correct from original. I still change a part now and then if I find them at a good price. But I don't pay what most of the sellers think they are worth. I started this in the early 80s when parts were plentiful and a lot cheeper. The imports in the 90s changed all that. The extra parts dryed up and got a lot higher. The thing to remember is you can always make them correct, but they can only be original when they are original. Those a the ones that everybody wants.

August 14, 2012, 20:08	#33
Nobody Registered FALaholic #: 18597 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: waxahachie, texas Posts: 270	I'd like to bring up something that everyone else has apparently over looked. It appears from the photos, that you need to sharpen your lawn mower blade(s). I see a lot of busted up grass tips. No clean cuts. Maybe even water yer lawn. Carry on citizen. __________________ "I tried being reasonable,... I didn't like it." Clint Eastwood

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