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Old July 02, 2012, 10:34   #51
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My soft spot has always been for the M14, but there's no denying that the FAL (as T48) handily beat out the T44 (which was adopted as the M14), or that the FAL was far more popular world-wide.

I've only fired an FAL a few times, but the comfort was impressive (sadly they had the AWB thumbhole stock), but I'm well and truly bitten by the FAL bug. My No.1 want is a para, but there's this pesky money thing...

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Old July 02, 2012, 10:42   #52
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Why?

'Cause *real men* don't shoot anything that don't start with a 7 and end with a .62 !

In reality;
Ergonomics
Soldier-proof
common and major caliber
easy ta spin one up from bits'n'pieces

Finally...the quality and intelligence as well as the taste and acumen displayed by proponents of the rifle..as exhibited by most of the members here!

While I wish I could say that I've never seen a dumphuk with an FAL; I've shore seen waaay too many of 'em with poodle-shooters and a couple other types of rifles/carbines.
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Old July 02, 2012, 13:59   #53
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'Cause *real men* don't shoot anything that don't start with a 7 and end with a .62 !

Are we to infer they are not "Real Men" that piled up in heaps; gooks of many stripes & flavors over the past 50 yrs using a cartridge that starts w/a 5 & ends w/a .56!?

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Old July 02, 2012, 15:25   #54
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Cause they are the best.

They are the best 7.62 x 51 rifle for the money.

Don't bring your M1A/M14 BS into this. It won't float.

90 countries didn't use an M14.

The M14 will never be as robust and as simple as the FAL.

So there you go. I said it, The FAL is the best.
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Old July 02, 2012, 15:57   #55
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Why FAL?

Because it's the Lambroghini / Ferrari / AC Cobra of rifles!!
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Old July 02, 2012, 15:59   #56
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U name it, i've shoot it , from 22s on up, was a long time nra ar 15 shooter, got my first fal, never looked back, learned to build them, shoot them etc. Theres just something about the feeling u get when u let off some 308s, it unlike shooting anything else, they always draw a crowd , everyone wants one.
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Old July 02, 2012, 17:56   #57
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Cause they are the best. - HEARTEDLY DISAGREE!

They are the best 7.62 x 51 rifle for the money. - HEARTEDLY AGREE!

Don't bring your M1A/M14 BS into this. It won't float. - NO COMMENT!

90 countries didn't use an M14. - INDISPUTABLE!

The M14 will never be as robust and as simple as the FAL. - HEARTEDLY DISAGREE!

So there you go. I said it, The FAL is the best.
- OPINION!

We all have two things in common - a--holes & opinions. I know one of them varies greatly; don,t know about the other.
So there you go. I say it, the FAL is "not" the best but neither is the M14. That is my personal opinion!
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Old July 02, 2012, 18:27   #58
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Opinions and statistics.... lol
I'm glad I joined ..... this forum.
Thanks just for being here guys!
It would be a hoot if we could all be in the same room at the same time.
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Old July 02, 2012, 18:36   #59
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and nothing barks like a FAL. Pop pop pop Pank Pank Pank BARK. (M4, M4, M4, AK, AK, AK, FAL). You know what I mean .

Hammer forged StG barrels shoot less than 2 MOA. Machined and forged, not stamped. Solid platform for optics (side mount on AK's - why bother?).

7.62X51: reach out and touch something at 600 meters!

And they pretty.
I got the 16.25" barrel with Moses' Hurricane on the end. It goes BOOOOOM.
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Old July 02, 2012, 18:42   #60
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It's simple really, in '75 when I was packing a PIG and doing crosstraining with the ADF 3rd Brigade I got to shoot the L1A1 and the L2A1. The feel,fit and function was excellent. I got the pig 'cuz the M16A1 sucked. I grew up shooting .30+ cal. ammo. I never bought an AR until '08.
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Old July 02, 2012, 19:02   #61
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Old July 02, 2012, 19:40   #63
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Because they are almost as cool as AK-47's.

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I looked at the reasons above and agree.

They are just a great all around rifle.

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Opinions and statistics.... lol
I'm glad I joined ..... this forum.
Thanks just for being here guys!
It would be a hoot if we could all be in the same room at the same time.
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They are cool!
They feel right when shouldard
It's a. 308

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- So there you go. I say it, the FAL is "not" the best...
Guys...I smell a rat amongst the good brethren here on the Files...someone get a rope
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Old July 03, 2012, 11:57   #69
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Old July 03, 2012, 12:08   #70
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because it makes my AR friends wet their knickers...
because I like shooting through things, not just into them


seriously, I just like them better because I just do.
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Old July 03, 2012, 13:06   #71
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Guys...I smell a rat amongst the good brethren here on the Files...someone get a rope
Yes,Yes; I do concur. Those accused & convicted of IDOLATRY should have their necks stretched a good long distance. It is scripture; Biblically.

IDOLATRY --- "The worship of an object as a god."
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Yes,Yes; I do concur. Those accused & convicted of IDOLATRY should have their necks stretched a good long distance. It is scripture; Biblically.

IDOLATRY --- "The worship of an object as a god."
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Because it's the Lambroghini / Ferrari / AC Cobra of rifles!!
Hardly a good comparison as those cars are obtainable only by the rich. Spare parts are just as expensive and you'd need a full time mechanic to keep one running properly.

The FAL is more like a '67 GTO, '68 Camaro or '70 Trans Am. Take your pick. Plenty of power, easy to wrench on and will last nearly forever if you keep the oil changed.
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The FAL is more like a '67 GTO, '68 Camaro or '70 Trans Am. Take your pick.
Uh...I'll take a '69 429 Boss.
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Yes,Yes; I do concur. Those accused & convicted of IDOLATRY should have their necks stretched a good long distance. It is scripture; Biblically.

IDOLATRY --- "The worship of an object as a god."
You are such a LIAR!!!! you know you LOVE THE FAL!!!!!!!!
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My first Bad looking rifle was an AR-15
My second was an AK-47
Third an HK-91
Finally a FAL L1a1 thumbhole that I fixed[RESTORED] with a parts kit rifle !!

I love to shoot them all--- Especially the ones that make LIBERALS WET THERE PANTIES!!!!


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I wanted a robust .308 rifle. I did some research and decided on the fal. The more I shoot it and tinker with it, the more I'm glad I decided on the fal. The more I learn about it from people on here, the more I like it. I've had AR's and AK's, but I'd grab the fal any day!
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Like US kids growing up with visions of fighting men carrying the M16, I grew up in South Africa seeing the distinctive, classy and yet deadly silhouette of the FAL.

I later carried an R1 in the SADF during the later stages of the bush-war, but I never dreamed I'd actually get to own one. Oddly enough, I carried its arch-enemy, the AK47, in Iraq - and now I own one of those as well, but the FAL to me will always be a man's battle-rifle.
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You are such a LIAR!!!! you know you LOVE THE FAL!!!!!!!!
Dead wrong - you "Dilletante". You guys love FALs; I just happen to like the looks of a few of them; mostly the t48s ( one of my top ten rifles of all time -- for looks ).
Am I glad the FAL wasn,t adopted for US service -- you betcha! There were better systems available @ the time, which anyone w/an open mind could or can figure out.
What I do like about the FAL is the eye appeal of a few types that look wonderful hanging on the wall, which makes them great conversation pieces. But when it comes down to shooting, I choose to take out better performers & leave the FALs hanging.
However I do consider the t48 to be a US martial arm despite its not being adopted.

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Old July 04, 2012, 00:48   #83
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[QUOTE=snpr41;3382084] Am I glad the FAL wasn,t adopted for US service -- you betcha! There were better systems available @ the time, which anyone w/an open mind could or can figure out.
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The gov hasn't always made the best choices, like the 30-40 Craig, cool rifle trap door for loading is also cool but, 30-40=suk esp when your up against
7mm's, hell even norway wouldnt use then in that cal
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Dead wrong!!! You guys love FALs - I just happen to like the looks of a few of them; mostly the t48s ( one of my top ten rifles of all time -- for looks ).
Am I glad the FAL wasn,t adopted for US service -- you betcha! There were better systems available @ the time, which anyone w/an open mind could or can figure out.
What I do like about the FAL is the eye appeal of a few types that look wonderful hanging on the wall, which makes them great conversation pieces. But when it comes down to shooting, I choose to take out better performers & leave the FALs hanging.
However I do consider the t48 to be a US martial arm despite its not being adopted.
We are only talking BATTLE RIFLE. So what do you think was the best rifle at that time, mid to late 50's.

Be specific.
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Hello the camp! I knew of FALs only in passing: had read of and could identify, maybe, in a dimly lit room. That changed when an amigo whose opinion I respected claimed it was the best MBR extant, for many of the reasons already put forth.
He had up-front-and-personal experience with arms from snoop-n-poop action during the Asian unpleasantness and involvement with children in action. Bottom line, I came, I saw, I built and sold all my Colts and built some more. mm
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For me it's quite simple. Two reasons

1.I love the history involved with this rifle. I've always loved firearms with history and this platform has history oozing out of it.

2.For a 308 chambered rifle it was a joy to shoot the moment I pulled the trigger for the first time.

Ill open it up
For me, it has a 'cool' factor that is off the chart. Much like a '57 Chevy.
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Because it was good enough to be America's battle rifle to replace the Garand if not for the military wanting a U.S.-made rifle.

Love the adjustable gas system, when tuned in it makes for quicker follow-up shot than other .308 rifles I've owned (HK91, M1A, AR10).

Its silhouette is pure art.
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Am I glad the FAL wasn,t adopted for US service -- you betcha! There were better systems available @ the time, which anyone w/an open mind could or can figure out.
The gov hasn't always made the best choices, like the 30-40 Craig, cool rifle trap door
Quite true because anyone who has served knows the military is resistant to change; esp radical change. At the time the US military saw no need for clip-loaded rifles as they; as always, stressed marksmanship above all else. That is one of several reasons we whipped the Spanish in 1898 using mostly 45-70s & some Krags against 93 Mausers; arguably the finest military rifle of the day.
However the Navy & Marines did have the Mod 1895 Win-Lee straight-pull which was way ahead of its time in several respects.

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SO WHAT WERE THEY???????

For the SECOND time. What is it your deep dark secret.

if it is so obvious tell us.
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So why wasn't one of those adopted?
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SO WHAT WERE THEY???????

For the SECOND time. What is it your deep dark secret.

if it is so obvious tell us.

Hey Bud - Lighten up! I just came in to cool off for a moment. Now must go back out w/the neighbor kids & shoot some more firecrackers.
I would suggest you show your gratitude to those who came before us & do the same. First things first; Sport !!!!!

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So why wasn't one of those adopted?
Why are you asking me? Search through the many historical records & find the truth for yourself.

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nice solid feel. great cartridge. so many variations made. tons of history behind them. easy to break down and clean. dependable. powerful. ergonomically well designed. look cool as hell. that is what comes off the top of my head.
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The gov hasn't always made the best choices, like the 30-40 Craig, cool rifle trap door
Quite true because anyone who has served knows the military is resistant to change; esp radical change. At the time the US military saw no need for clip-loaded rifles as they; as always, stressed marksmanship above all else. That is one of several reasons we whipped the Spanish in 1898 using mostly 45-70s & some Krags against 93 Mausers; arguably the finest military rifle of the day.
However the Navy & Marines did have the Mod 1895 Win-Lee straight-pull which was way ahead of its time in several respects.
This is my point, even if the FAL was a better choice (it was) the military wouldnt have adopted it out of bias (not us made) If the powers in charge in spanish American war would have given ANY thought about marksmanship/accurcy they would have went with something other than 45-70 and 30-40's they are good rounds in some cases but NOT when your against an enemy who has at least 3x the range you do, tactics won that war not our weapons. A few more examples of less than stellar choices, Jhonson rifle, resing mg, M16, and beretta, just couse the US military did or did not pick a certain weapon dose not mean their choice was the best one
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Why are you asking me? Search through the many historical records & find the truth for yourself.
So you're saying there were better weapons systems available, but the US adopted an inferior system instead of those or the FAL.
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So you're saying there were better weapons systems available, but the US adopted an inferior system instead of those

yes that is my humble opinion but of the 2 finalists (t48 & t44 ) what we now know as the m14; I believe was the correct choice between the 2.
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Hey Bud - Lighten up! I just came in to cool off for a moment. Now must go back out w/the neighbor kids & shoot some more firecrackers.
I would suggest you show your gratitude to those who came before us & do the same. First things first; Sport !!!!!

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and we still don't know what is your opinion is.

I guess you really don't have one. you just want us to think you do.
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SO WHAT WERE THEY???????

For the SECOND time. What is it your deep dark secret.

if it is so obvious tell us.


As a young kid my father & I followed the "Trials" w/a great deal of interest, we read all that was published in the "Rifleman" & other sources & came to a unanimous conclusion w/a few more of my opinions on what should have been; were it up to me:

"M14" ------ AR10 (this was our pick)
"M16" ------ Stoner63 & later the Steyr AUG (maybe)
"M60" ------ MG42/59
"M203" ---- M79
"SAW" ---- Ameli


Tell me where I,m wrong here

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and we still don't know what is your opinion is.

I guess you really don't have one. you just want us to think you do.


Hey MK ULTRA - I was celebrating 4th of July w/the neighbor kids. That comes once a yr.
I can get my opinions shot down anytime!
Do you think I have an opinion now even though it might be bogus?
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