Crazy prices on AK's - Page 2

**W.E.G.** · July 03, 2012, 15:49

The last WASR to ACTUALLY SELL on gunbroker, was in April.

It sold for $431
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=280746442

mingthemerciles · July 03, 2012, 15:57

Was the additional rust what cost the $1 more ?
$430 for the gun $1 for the rust ...

BC · July 04, 2012, 07:26

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Originally Posted by mingthemerciles

Well the Czech Point VZ-58 I bought last year for $725 (not my cup of tea) was commanding a whole $450 at the gun show in Washington, PA last weekend.

How much does a comparable VZ58 sell at Gunbroker? That should give you a ballpark idea of its current value. I'd guess it's worth a bit less than $725, since the demand is not strong. (Other people may also think it's not their cup of tea.)

BC · July 04, 2012, 07:29

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Originally Posted by mingthemerciles

Was the additional rust what cost the $1 more ?
$430 for the gun $1 for the rust ...

The $1 is the result of the $5 increment. Someone had a bid at $426. The winner had to pay $5 more than that amount, hence the $431.

cjjtulsa · July 04, 2012, 09:32

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Originally Posted by BC

How much does a comparable VZ58 sell at Gunbroker? That should give you a ballpark idea of its current value. I'd guess it's worth a bit less than $725, since the demand is not strong. (Other people may also think it's not their cup of tea.)

They aren't everyone's cup of tea, but Czechpoint actually had to stop taking orders for a month to catch up on rifle shipments because they were so swamped with orders. Before the shutdown, they were up to 6 weeks behind. I love the rifle, and though it may not be for everyone (what rifle is?), they have a strong following, and getting stronger. Problem is mags seem to be starting to dry up a little, and that may put a kink in new Vz ownership in the future.

nfafan · July 05, 2012, 09:10

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Originally Posted by mingthemerciles

Got the standard dumbass look and he points to a Century VZ-2000 the next table over.. He didnt like when I asked him if all the people on his planet were illiterate dumb fucks. Didnt even try to explain the difference in the two.
Friggin Douche bags..

Was at the Wash show - seen the two VZ's - fixed stock, correct?

They looked nice from a distance, but have no need for them.

CTW · July 05, 2012, 21:19

I bought a Wasr 10/63 in 2011 for 430 bucks brand new in box. I put a romy wire sidefolder on and it makes a fine vehichle gun on road trips. 600 rounds of wally world tulammo down the tube so far without a hiccup.

mpnv · July 16, 2012, 11:55

I saw two new full stock Century WASR's today at a gun shop in South Eastern PA today for $550.00. HOLY COW!!

**W.E.G.** · July 16, 2012, 12:09

This one sold in April on Gunbroker for $530.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=281829012

Appears to be a supply of new rifles from oneclickshooting.com

Now rolling-over daily at $579 fixed price, but nobody is buying.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=296667984

nfafan · July 16, 2012, 12:21

Dunhams has them back on sale this week for $450.00; one 30rd mag, tack-welded nut.

Insider · August 13, 2012, 06:04

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Originally Posted by W.E.G.

This one sold in April on Gunbroker for $530.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=281829012

Appears to be a supply of new rifles from oneclickshooting.com

Now rolling-over daily at $579 fixed price, but nobody is buying.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=296667984

Nobody Wants A Shitty Rifle!

nfafan · August 13, 2012, 06:25

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Originally Posted by W.E.G.

This one sold in April on Gunbroker for $530.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=281829012

Appears to be a supply of new rifles from oneclickshooting.com

Now rolling-over daily at $579 fixed price, but nobody is buying.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=296667984

Someone will start buying them...

**garyd1961** · August 13, 2012, 20:04

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Originally Posted by nfafan

Someone will start buying them...

I have one I bought in 08 for $375 and it is a nice shooting rifle. I have been thinking about buying another and have seen some lately for less than $500. Yesterday a friend brought me his he just bought and mentioned it shoots high right. I looked at the front sight and it's all the way right as far as it can go. I told him about the canted sights. I guess I just got lucky with mine and I'm scared to chance it again.

TideWater 41009 · August 13, 2012, 21:30

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Originally Posted by garyd1961

I have one I bought in 08 for $375 and it is a nice shooting rifle. I have been thinking about buying another and have seen some lately for less than $500. Yesterday a friend brought me his he just bought and mentioned it shoots high right. I looked at the front sight and it's all the way right as far as it can go. I told him about the canted sights. I guess I just got lucky with mine and I'm scared to chance it again.

Canted sights are easy enough to fix.

BC · August 13, 2012, 22:10

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Originally Posted by TideWater 41009

Canted sights are easy enough to fix.

Then it should be done before reaching the customers.

wkendwarrior2003 · August 14, 2012, 00:14

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Originally Posted by BC

Then it should be done before reaching the customers.

I agree. It's not asking for a million bucks to ask for a rifle to have sights that are aligned correctly out of the box.

**Drtrumpet** · August 14, 2012, 02:25

Supply and demand fellas, if you think 5 bills is pricey for an AKM wait a couple months lol.

My 2c anyway...

nfafan · August 14, 2012, 06:27

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Originally Posted by TideWater 41009

Canted sights are easy enough to fix.

Yep!

http://www.novarata.net/Linx310/fsbcantfix.shtml

Typical Century Arms - get them built as fast as possible for sale - their FALs, G3s, CETMEs, Golanis, C93s, UC9s, Sterlings, Tantals - always inspect a Century gun before buying.

When you buy a Century gun online to save a buck without the personal inspection - your savings should be factored into to possibly shippng it back for repairs.

If you don't MAKE Century fix their stuff - then they will continue to do what they do - the Maronda Homes of gun companies.

Arik · August 14, 2012, 07:57

Century does not build WASRs, they import them. Imported as a single stack version with no US parts. Century opens up the receiver for double stack mags (and they probably do this with an old, dull dremel tool) and add enough 922r parts to be compliant.

Tapco mag -3
FCG - 3
Piston-1
Muzzle device-1
P Gip-1
(sometimes) Tapco collapsible stock -1

Anything else you might not like such as the finish, canted sights/gas blcok, sometimes the fit you can blame on the Romanians.

What Century does make are the Polish AKMS, VZ58, "Bulgarian" style AK74 and the Yugo AK47 (i might be forgetting one or two)

nfafan · August 14, 2012, 09:26

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Originally Posted by Arik

Century does not build WASRs, they import them. Imported as a single stack version with no US parts.

True, Cent doesn't build Romy AKs; they 922-them in-country 'cept for the now-defunct Dracos and WASR22s.

But - - they do lean on Cugir to crank them out as fast as possible.

Meanwhile, M&M and the other importers that have sold Romy AK variants over the years have apparently held Cugir to a slightly better build standard than what Cent does.

You can see Cent's rush-job demands in the way they have required - and thus allowed - C93 builders to slap those guns together as fast as possible.

July 03, 2012, 15:49	#51
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,052	The last WASR to ACTUALLY SELL on gunbroker, was in April. It sold for $431 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=280746442 __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

July 16, 2012, 12:09	#59
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,052	This one sold in April on Gunbroker for $530. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=281829012 Appears to be a supply of new rifles from oneclickshooting.com Now rolling-over daily at $579 fixed price, but nobody is buying. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=296667984 __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

July 16, 2012, 12:21	#60
nfafan Registered FALaholic #: 6249 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 134	Dunhams has them back on sale this week for $450.00; one 30rd mag, tack-welded nut. __________________ Steve in PA, USA - where we are a re-election away from becoming Zimbabwe

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July 03, 2012, 15:57	#52
mingthemerciles Registered FALaholic #: 65967 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Incirlik Turkey Posts: 110	Was the additional rust what cost the $1 more ? $430 for the gun $1 for the rust ...

July 05, 2012, 21:19	#57
CTW Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 41894 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,559	I bought a Wasr 10/63 in 2011 for 430 bucks brand new in box. I put a romy wire sidefolder on and it makes a fine vehichle gun on road trips. 600 rounds of wally world tulammo down the tube so far without a hiccup.

July 16, 2012, 11:55	#58
mpnv Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 64169 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Delaware Posts: 660	I saw two new full stock Century WASR's today at a gun shop in South Eastern PA today for $550.00. HOLY COW!!

August 14, 2012, 02:25	#67
Drtrumpet Veteran Member Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 32722 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,114	Supply and demand fellas, if you think 5 bills is pricey for an AKM wait a couple months lol. My 2c anyway...

August 14, 2012, 07:57	#69
Arik Registered FALaholic #: 62579 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 67	Century does not build WASRs, they import them. Imported as a single stack version with no US parts. Century opens up the receiver for double stack mags (and they probably do this with an old, dull dremel tool) and add enough 922r parts to be compliant. Tapco mag -3 FCG - 3 Piston-1 Muzzle device-1 P Gip-1 (sometimes) Tapco collapsible stock -1 Anything else you might not like such as the finish, canted sights/gas blcok, sometimes the fit you can blame on the Romanians. What Century does make are the Polish AKMS, VZ58, "Bulgarian" style AK74 and the Yugo AK47 (i might be forgetting one or two)