ATTORNEY GENERAL FOUND IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS

[EPC WN]

Think this was decided today by coincidence?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/congre...tempt-congress

Dems did it today to mitigate damage.

[D P Six]

Eric you have been a bad, bad boy! No cookies tonight for you....and no TV after 11:30 PM.

[Sailor553]

Originally Posted by EPC WN

Think this was decided today by coincidence?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/congre...tempt-congress

Dems did it today to mitigate damage.

The dems did it today? Kindly explain.

[EPC WN]

Ok CONgress did it today. Seems kinda suspect all the same.

[V guy]

Holder was held in both Criminal Comtempt and civil Contempt.

Now the House and Senate committees can go to a friendly Fed judge and ask for the documents Holder is refusing to divulge.

The Civil Judge will tell Holder, that HE, the Judge, will decide what Congress can see and not Holder.
Holder will refuse to comply and then the shit hits the fan.

Watergate all over again.
What did Obama know and when did he know it?

Time for the Committee to offer immunity to Mona Sutphen, and others in the know, in exchange for the facts on Holder and Obama, and their criminal coverup.

[L Haney]

I can't wait for Holder to tell the House "Phuck you and the horse you rode in on." You know it's coming.

They can't touch him. And he knows it.

[Sailor553]

Originally Posted by EPC WN

Ok CONgress did it today. Seems kinda suspect all the same.

Yeah, the gop was hoping for a twofer.

Haney is right and I can't wait.

[FAL freek]

Much as I hate to say it Mexihole was griping about American purchased guns for a while and many (including me) scoffed. Once the F&F scandal broke there seemed to be some truth to their claims, although on a smaller scale than Mexihole alleged.

Originally Posted by L Haney

I can't wait for Holder to tell the House "Phuck you and the horse you rode in on." You know it's coming.

They can't touch him. And he knows it.

Gotta agree he's got friends in high places that don't wanna get any bad publicity from the whole affair and will ensure full scale damage control will be initiated. Politics at its finest.

[gew98]

Originally Posted by Sailor553

Yeah, the gop was hoping for a twofer.

Haney is right and I can't wait.

I can't wait either... for it will burn barky's ass and holder will be the part of the poisin pill that drops the rabid donkey empire !.

[L Haney]

Originally Posted by Sailor553

Haney is right and I can't wait.

Bet we're happy about what I said for different reasons. I see a cusp approaching. They're rare.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332636

[EPC WN]

Originally Posted by Sailor553

Yeah, the gop was hoping for a twofer.

Haney is right and I can't wait.

So you appear to be glad the justice department was trying to illegally undermine the Second amendment. Do I have this correct?

[alant]

Originally Posted by V guy

Holder was hel in both Criminal Comtempt and civil Contempt.

Now the House and Senate committees can go to a friendly Fed judge and ask for the documents Holder is refusing to divulge.

The Civ,il Judge will tell Holder, that HE, the Judge, will decide what Congress can see and not Holder.
Holder will refuse to comply and then the shit hits the fan.

Watergate all over again.
What did Obama know and when did he know it?

Time for the Committee to offer immunity to Mona Sutphen, and others in the know, in exchange for the facts on Holder and Obama, and their criminal coverup.

Um, not exactly.

The contempt citation, which doesn’t need Senate approval, now goes to the U.S. attorney in Washington to determine whether criminal prosecution is warranted. The Washington prosecutor, Ronald Machen, is an Obama nominee who probably won’t pursue the matter after Obama claimed executive privilege over the documents last week, said Josh Chafetz, a professor at Cornell Law School in Ithaca, New York.
. . .
Two Republicans, Steve LaTourette of Ohio and Scott Rigell of Virginia, joined 65 Democrats in opposing the contempt citation while 17 Democrats supported it. Before the roll call most of the 108 Democrats who didn’t vote, including Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California, walked out of the chamber to protest the resolution.

The House proceeded to debate on authorizing congressional investigators to seek a court order to compel Holder to turn over the documents.
. . .
Representative Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the top Democrat on the oversight panel, called the probe “one of the most reckless and politically motivated congressional investigations in decades.”

Cummings argued that the investigation is aimed not at getting to the truth about Fast and Furious because Issa has refused to allow questioning of the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which ran the operation.

“No member has been able to pose a single question to the head of ATF,” Cummings said.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...gun-probe.html

[JeffJ]

Originally Posted by L Haney

I can't wait for Holder to tell the House "Phuck you and the horse you rode in on." You know it's coming.

They can't touch him. And he knows it.

They can after the election when he and Obummer are out on their asses..These ass clowns make jimmy carter look good.

[shlomo]

Originally Posted by JeffJ

They can after the election when he and Obummer are out on their asses..These ass clowns make jimmy carter look good.

Which is another way of saying that they can't touch him.

[JeffJ]

Originally Posted by shlomo

Which is another way of saying that they can't touch him.

Not yet...Timing is everything haven't you figured that out yet?

[shlomo]

Originally Posted by JeffJ

Not yet...Timing is everything haven't you figured that out yet?

One of us ain't figgered something out, but the jury ain't back yet.

[V guy]

Nope, the Criminal contempt will go nowhere.

The Civil contempt charge, however, will definitely go somewhere--like up Holders shorts.

THAT Civil Judge will order the documents to his possession and he alone will decide if Congress can have them. Holder can protest that they are priviledged internal documents but the Judge is prepared for that bullshit argument.

Holder will have to surrender them; a criminal coverup is not grounds for executive priviledge--Nixon created the foundation for that.

The Civil process will draw blood from Holder and Obama--wait and see.

[JeffJ]

Originally Posted by V guy

Nope, the Criminal contempt will go nowhere.

The Civil contempt charge, however, will definitely go somewhere--like up Holders shorts.

THAT Civil Judge will order the documents to his possession and he alone will decide if Congress can have them. Holder can protest that they are priviledged internal documents but the Judge is prepared for that bullshit argument.

Holder will have to surrender them; a criminal coverup is not grounds for executive priviledge--Nixon created the foundation for that.

The Civil process will draw blood from Holder and Obama--wait and see.

I sure hope your correct...

[carguym14]

Originally Posted by JeffJ

I sure hope your correct...

I hope you're correct.

[shlomo]

Originally Posted by carguym14

I hope you're correct.

Hey--that's my gig. Get yer own scam.

Besides, "your" goes with the backward hat and hockey mullet. JeffJ is goin' for the complete package.

[carguym14]

Originally Posted by shlomo

Hey--that's my gig. Get yer own scam.

Besides, "your" goes with the backward hat and hockey mullet. JeffJ is goin' for the complete package.

Sorry master,I was impulsive.I shall be more patient in the future.

[JeffJ]

Originally Posted by carguym14

Sorry master,I was impulsive.I shall be more patient in the future.

Screw Yalls english 101...aint bout to worry what you thnk...

[alant]

Originally Posted by V guy

Nope, the Criminal contempt will go nowhere.

The Civil contempt charge, however, will definitely go somewhere--like up Holders shorts.

THAT Civil Judge will order the documents to his possession and he alone will decide if Congress can have them. Holder can protest that they are priviledged internal documents but the Judge is prepared for that bullshit argument.

Holder will have to surrender them; a criminal coverup is not grounds for executive priviledge--Nixon created the foundation for that.

The Civil process will draw blood from Holder and Obama--wait and see.

The civil case will be worth watching. Holder is prohibited by law from providing some of what the GOP chairman is telling him to give the committee.

[JeffJ]

Originally Posted by alant

The civil case will be worth watching. Holder is prohibited by law from providing some of what the GOP chairman is telling him to give the committee.

Really like what, the evidence that both he and Obungler set this up to push new gun laws in the U.S. ?

[V guy]

The cat IS out of the bag on this. There are no more secrets to anyone in Congress with a brain. They are mostly Lawyers/Prosecutors/ Judges for christs sake.

Everyone knows--i.e Congress-- what Obama authorized and Holder/Napolitano carried out.

The libs mention it everyday; they shout that the NRA believes that Obama was trying to discredit private gunownership by trying to pin the guns going to Mexico on the typical slob.

I just love it when they do our work for us.

The House voted for contempt, not because of anything else, but the coverup that Holder and Obama are running, about the scheme.

Coverups are always because crimes have been committed.
Everyone in Congress knows this---especially those who voted for Contempt Charges. Those who walked out know that this is exactly how their constituents go down in criminal court on a daily basis.

The fact that no real underlings have been blamed for F&F, other than the first attempts to throw ATF under the bus is damning.

That means it was a top level job, authored and executed by White House Staff and Cabinet at Obama's behest.

Think that this will not impeach him should he be re-elected?
The documents are all available to the Civil Judge--there is nothing that he cannot screen as long as Holder gives them up.

Holder will not comply with the Civil case Judge, and a special prosecutor will be appointed in the long run, over Obama and Holders protests.

When the dem leadership caves in and makes Obama appoint one, it will be amazing.
Nixon tried to fire everyone who defied him, and Obama will too, but eventually fall to his Bill Ayers, upbringing.

[ronpaulFAL]

I am not sure how Congress can enforce their ruling and compel Holder to give up the papers. I'm guessing their next step will be to subpoena the underlings and offer them immunity...

[V guy]

The Civil Judge supoenas the documents.

When Holder refuses to give them up, the cry for a special prosecutor will be so loud that one will be appointed over all protests.

This thing has legs, despite the lib reporters attitude that this is simply nothing.

Watergate was nothing, but elevated to a majorcrime against the State, due to the criminal coverup by Nixon.
Atty Gen John Mitchell went to jail, along with Erlichman, Dean, Haldeman, Colson, Liddy, etc.
Substitute Holder, Emanuel, Sutphen, Napolitano, etc etc and you get the real picture of thugs and shits.

The walls are cracking. Nixon was given up by those who came forward and told the truth to save their asses.
There are plenty of weak willed underlings who will start coming forward to throw Holder and Obama under the bus.

[Col. Bat Guano]

Somebody in the know will soon have an untimely death due to "natural causes." Heart attacks seem to be the preferred method of croaking.

[Sailor553]

Originally Posted by ronpaulFAL

I am not sure how Congress can enforce their ruling and compel Holder to give up the papers. I'm guessing their next step will be to subpoena the underlings and offer them immunity...

This is the crux of the issue. Issa has refused to interview all of the people involved, choosing only to select a few that furthers his agenda. If he had cast a broader net, the result would have been different. This would not be an issue. Issa has said himself that he doesn't think Holder or Obama were involved in FF cover up.

[308bolt]

Originally Posted by Sailor553

This is the crux of the issue. Issa has refused to interview all of the people involved, choosing only to select a few that furthers his agenda. If he had cast a broader net, the result would have been different. This would not be an issue. Issa has said himself that he doesn't think Holder or Obama were involved in FF cover up.

Holder is most certainly involved in the cover up and obama invoking executive privilege in regards to the documents now has him involved whether he was prior or not. If the documents requested weren't damning they would have been released. Interviewing apologists won't change anything. Reading the actual documentation will get to the heart of the matter.

[V guy]

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/BNA...6/24/id/443282

Issa said that HOLDER WAS CLEARLY GUILTY OF A COVERUP!!
Innacurate info on scum must be corrected asap.

[jeffrey]

Meanwhile, our two escapees from DU and Daily Kos continue their Demo-statist babble.

Alant quotes Elijah Cummings to back up his assertions.

And Sailor falls back on the tried'n true liberal tactic of "kill the messenger". Pretty soon, he will dredge up "proof" that Issa is a rapist, axe murderer, illegal alien and general all around scoundrel. To the pinheads, that makes it ok for Obastard and Holder to do whatever they want.

[jeffrey]

Originally Posted by Sailor553

This is the crux of the issue. Issa has refused to interview all of the people involved, choosing only to select a few that furthers his agenda. If he had cast a broader net, the result would have been different. This would not be an issue. Issa has said himself that he doesn't think Holder or Obama were involved in FF cover up.

You're full of it Sailor. You keep trying to dredge up anything you can to denigrate Issa and his motives. In the other thread you breathlessly exposed his heinous criminal past. Just come out and admit it. Anything that a Democratic wants to do is fine with you - you'll cover their backs by trying to kill the messenger.

So, by reading your attempts to slime the Repubs who are investigating
Fast & Furious, you are giving me the impression that you simply don't care about it at all. It's all about politics to you. Right and wrong be damned.

[Deltaten]

Papers? Civil judgement? Contempt?

Matters not. The precedence was set by some oddly missing Rose law firm documents found later in the First Lady's residence closet. Before that, there was some 18 minutes missing from some taped conversations an a bungled burglary.
"They did it, so we can too! Y'all better not say anything or we'll point out your transgressions"

Making a list now of who might (is gonna be?) "Vince Fostered" over this.

Issuing more subpoenas for more liars ta show'n'tell will not clarify the story; but only increase the chanting from the peanut gallery of "Bush did it!"

Regardless of how perverted the laws of Man get; the Law of Unintended Consequences always applies. As often as the idjits in D.C. are exposed to this, ya'd think they'd consider it before squabbling so?

[bill3542]

much as i hate to say it Holder and the Kenyan Mulatto will weasel out of this one...but it will be remembered come election time.

[Dave Hume]

You have heard that the Republican leadership (Boner, for one) has stated categorically that there will be no arrest and prosecution.

Feet of clay....