Anyone reload 7.62x39?

CTW · May 19, 2012, 15:24

I was given by a friend brass, dies and 125 grain berrys bullets and 125 grain midway soft point bullets. I already prepped and primed the brass. I just need to drop some charges and seat bullets. Anyone have a pet load for this bullet weight? I really do not want to buy specialpowder to load this. Powders on hand include H335, TAC, H4895, varget and reloader15. Any data is apreciated. Chris

**Stoney** · May 19, 2012, 15:55

30 Gr of H335 is what i use.

**W.E.G.** · May 19, 2012, 15:56

I've done it.

Shot my loads in a Mini-30.

What a waste of time that was.

CTW · May 19, 2012, 22:21

Well I loaded up 15 rounds to try tonight. I used 30 grains of 335 and 125 grain rainer fmj with win large rifle primers. Will update on my results. I can determine if I am wasting my time and components. Thanks

Zeusizme · May 19, 2012, 22:48

I've used BL-C2, WC844, and maybe one other powder I keep on hand and they work. I just don't get the velocity out of them. AA1680 works great to get the proper speeds out of an AK. Now if someone has a pet load for 150gr .308 Tracers that cycle an AK I'm all ears. I have tried a few times and can't get the pressure in the case up enough to make a seal that prevents partially burnt powder from getting in the chamber. It was fun to lob tracers out of her at 1250fps. They had a nice arch to them.

instr8 · May 20, 2012, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeusizme

AA1680 works great to get the proper speeds out of an AK.

This!

**LAFAL** · May 20, 2012, 20:29

I had good luck with RL7

jefferyc22 · May 20, 2012, 22:59

BLC and the like are awfully slow for X39 correct?

evan price · May 22, 2012, 01:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTW

Well I loaded up 15 rounds to try tonight. I used 30 grains of 335 and 125 grain rainer fmj with win large rifle primers. Will update on my results. I can determine if I am wasting my time and components. Thanks

Rainier FMJs? Rainier makes plated bullets, and nothing for the x39s at all. What do you have?

I loaded the 123-gr Hornadys and some 123-gr Izzy pulls back in the day when I had an SKS and Mini-30.
30 gr H335 I concur.
I no longer own anything in x39 so I don't load anymore.

CTW · May 22, 2012, 10:58

These were given to me by a friend. I'm just going off of the package.

Led · May 27, 2012, 20:57

I'm working up some 150g loads with RE7. Planing on going out to the range with the chrono tomorrow.

Later,
Stephen

akajun · May 28, 2012, 07:49

try h322. It is by far the best powder I have used in 762x39 and 6.8. Throws good out of the measure as well. Next would be 4198 but it does stick some.

**308bolt** · June 09, 2012, 13:50

I tried it with WC846 and 150 gr. black tips on a request from a friend.
Using 10% under BLC2 data we had cases flying all over and finally a case head separation. If you have any luck with those Rainiers please post it.
I've been thinking about buying some Berry's bullets myself.
I've got 2K of virgin, primed Winchester brass just waiting for a good load.

Right Side Up · June 09, 2012, 15:06

I've only used 1680 and Reloader 7 in that caliber. I used IMI brass, CCI primers, and Hornady 123 grain soft points. Shot pretty well.

Led · June 09, 2012, 21:36

Finally got to test my 150g 7.62x39 load. I am very happy with the results. Accuracy was excellent.

Firearm SAR-1
Date 6/9/2012
Weather Sunny, 85, lw
Cartridge 7.62x39
Bullet Sierra SP (2300)
Bullet Weight 150g
Powder RL-7
Charge 24g
Case Winchester
Primer Rem Large Rifle
Average 2015 fps
High 2032 fps
Low 2002 fps
ES 30.3 fps
SD 10.5 fps
AD 8.6 fps
Energy 1352.7 ft/lbs

**308bolt** · June 09, 2012, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Led

Finally got to test my 150g 7.62x39 load. I am very happy with the results. Accuracy was excellent.

In real terms; what does "accuracy was excellent mean"?

Paper plate at 100 yds. half-dollar at a 100?

Led · June 09, 2012, 23:25

Group was about half the size of the group shot with wolf ammo. I didn't measure, next trip I will.

Later,
Stephen

ramiller · June 26, 2012, 10:28

The best load I have tried was from a CZ527 bolt gun using Hornaday V-Max bullets, purchased from Widners, Winchester Brass, CCI primers and REloader #7 excellent accuracy and knock-down on small game. Accuracy was average of 1.5 inches at 100 yds.

CTW · June 29, 2012, 14:36

Damn I almost forgot about this post. I tried the loads I made with 30 grains of H335 and man were they crappy. Would not outshoot walmart tula. I kind of lost interest after such bad results. If I get the nerve I'll get some reloder7, but not on my priority list now. Thanks for the folks that posted to help me. Chris

JohnnyV1966 · June 29, 2012, 21:19

A friend reloads for the 7.62x39. He gets two minutes of angle with an Arsenal AK at 100yds using a load consisting of IMI Brass, Hornady 123gr SP, Win or Fed Large Rifle Primer and I think 26.6 grains of RE-7. While deer hunting with him I saw him shoot a deer at about 100 yards just behind the shoulder mid point between the top of the deers back and chest. The Deer dropped, shook its tail twice and remained motionless. Upon field cleaning the bullet had smashed though the center of one rib, turned the deers lungs dark and cherry red with bullet fragments being found on the opposite wall of the chest and lodged in the spine. Clearly a very deadly round not given the respect it deserves for deer hunting.

JasonB · July 07, 2012, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.E.G.

I've done it.

Shot my loads in a Mini-30.

What a waste of time that was.

I wish I still had the Shooting Times issue that had the Mini 30 review that had accuracy results of the Mini vs. a Chinese SKS and the best hand load groups in the Mini was still no better than mil-surp in the SKS. Never the less, the Mini was a must have at 5 times the cost when published.

daschnoz · August 17, 2012, 14:25

If you have any 2400 on hand, try about 14gr of that under a 125gr class bullet. The brass will land about 10 feet away. IIRC, you get about 2000fps and the rifle cycles. It's a great Sunday afternoon load.

http://www.kirbos.net/reload_data/7....20Complete.pdf

http://www.kirbos.net/reload_data/7....omplete%29.pdf

Tim Dreas · August 17, 2012, 18:40

A lot of the load data in many load guides is all over the place with loads. The current load data from the powder companies seems very good though. I don't see any advantage and some disadvantage to using 150 grain bullets. They aren't going fast enough to have an advantage over 123 grain bullets and most of them are made for 150 grain 303 British bullet velocities. Their trajectory is terrible in 7.62x39. They can be accurate at 100 yards though.

Current load data from the powder companies that work just as they are suppose to work.

Accurate Powder - 123 grain bullet - 27.0 grains of A1680

Hodgdon - 123 grain bullet - 26.5 grains of H-4198

Alliant Powders - 123 grain bullet - 27.0 grains of RL-7

IMR-4227 can work but load data has to be sourced from Speer, Sierra or maybe Lyman. For mild loads the Lyman load data is very good. Sierra had separate load data for both .308" and .311" bullets. Speer has some hot and some not so hot load data. The load data supplied by IMR Powders is way off for both IMR-4227 and IMR-4198. Hornady used to make very accurate .311" bullets but has replaced them with not so accurate .310" bullets.

Tim Dreas · August 17, 2012, 18:43

Ramshot did work up load data for TAC but says that it is too slow. It can "work" though. H-335 is similar and isn't terrible. H-4895 ends up being really dirty but enough of it stuffed in a case can be accurate.

May 19, 2012, 15:24	#1
CTW Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 41894 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,561	Anyone reload 7.62x39? I was given by a friend brass, dies and 125 grain berrys bullets and 125 grain midway soft point bullets. I already prepped and primed the brass. I just need to drop some charges and seat bullets. Anyone have a pet load for this bullet weight? I really do not want to buy specialpowder to load this. Powders on hand include H335, TAC, H4895, varget and reloader15. Any data is apreciated. Chris

May 19, 2012, 15:55	#2
Stoney Former 0311 Contributor Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 1205 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Brush Prairie, WA USA Posts: 3,331	30 Gr of H335 is what i use. __________________ Stoney Bureaucracy,, taking the fun out of life one stupid rule at a time,,,, Old Viking saying: Never be more then two steps from your weapon Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading. - Thomas Jefferson

May 19, 2012, 15:56	#3
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,055	I've done it. Shot my loads in a Mini-30. What a waste of time that was. __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

May 19, 2012, 22:48	#5
Zeusizme Registered FALaholic #: 64239 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: PA Posts: 953	I've used BL-C2, WC844, and maybe one other powder I keep on hand and they work. I just don't get the velocity out of them. AA1680 works great to get the proper speeds out of an AK. Now if someone has a pet load for 150gr .308 Tracers that cycle an AK I'm all ears. I have tried a few times and can't get the pressure in the case up enough to make a seal that prevents partially burnt powder from getting in the chamber. It was fun to lob tracers out of her at 1250fps. They had a nice arch to them. __________________ Shoot it until it smokes!

June 09, 2012, 13:50	#13
308bolt Heathen Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 19255 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 19,981	I tried it with WC846 and 150 gr. black tips on a request from a friend. Using 10% under BLC2 data we had cases flying all over and finally a case head separation. If you have any luck with those Rainiers please post it. I've been thinking about buying some Berry's bullets myself. I've got 2K of virgin, primed Winchester brass just waiting for a good load. __________________ "The bandwagons rumble past. I sit here on the curb," ~ John Hartford ~ "Nil desperandum, -- Never Despair. That is a motto for you and me. All are not dead; and where there is a spark of patriotic fire, we will rekindle it." ~ Samuel Adams ~

May 19, 2012, 22:21	#4
CTW Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 41894 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,561	Well I loaded up 15 rounds to try tonight. I used 30 grains of 335 and 125 grain rainer fmj with win large rifle primers. Will update on my results. I can determine if I am wasting my time and components. Thanks

May 20, 2012, 20:29	#7
LAFAL Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 85 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,848	I had good luck with RL7 __________________ -to AR is human. to FAL is divine!

May 20, 2012, 22:59	#8
jefferyc22 Banned FALaholic #: 18245 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PNW Posts: 3,447	BLC and the like are awfully slow for X39 correct?

May 22, 2012, 10:58	#10
CTW Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 41894 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,561	These were given to me by a friend. I'm just going off of the package.

May 27, 2012, 20:57	#11
Led Registered FALaholic #: 6910 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 443	I'm working up some 150g loads with RE7. Planing on going out to the range with the chrono tomorrow. Later, Stephen

May 28, 2012, 07:49	#12
akajun Registered FALaholic #: 22516 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: louisiana Posts: 1,230	try h322. It is by far the best powder I have used in 762x39 and 6.8. Throws good out of the measure as well. Next would be 4198 but it does stick some.

June 09, 2012, 15:06	#14
Right Side Up Registered FALaholic #: 43 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 2,553	I've only used 1680 and Reloader 7 in that caliber. I used IMI brass, CCI primers, and Hornady 123 grain soft points. Shot pretty well. __________________ It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices." ---Chief Justice Roberts.

June 09, 2012, 21:36	#15
Led Registered FALaholic #: 6910 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 443	Finally got to test my 150g 7.62x39 load. I am very happy with the results. Accuracy was excellent. Firearm SAR-1 Date 6/9/2012 Weather Sunny, 85, lw Cartridge 7.62x39 Bullet Sierra SP (2300) Bullet Weight 150g Powder RL-7 Charge 24g Case Winchester Primer Rem Large Rifle Average 2015 fps High 2032 fps Low 2002 fps ES 30.3 fps SD 10.5 fps AD 8.6 fps Energy 1352.7 ft/lbs

June 09, 2012, 23:25	#17
Led Registered FALaholic #: 6910 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Huntington, WV Posts: 443	Group was about half the size of the group shot with wolf ammo. I didn't measure, next trip I will. Later, Stephen

June 26, 2012, 10:28	#18
ramiller Registered FALaholic #: 3674 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: pennsylvania Posts: 994	The best load I have tried was from a CZ527 bolt gun using Hornaday V-Max bullets, purchased from Widners, Winchester Brass, CCI primers and REloader #7 excellent accuracy and knock-down on small game. Accuracy was average of 1.5 inches at 100 yds.

June 29, 2012, 14:36	#19
CTW Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 41894 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,561	Damn I almost forgot about this post. I tried the loads I made with 30 grains of H335 and man were they crappy. Would not outshoot walmart tula. I kind of lost interest after such bad results. If I get the nerve I'll get some reloder7, but not on my priority list now. Thanks for the folks that posted to help me. Chris

June 29, 2012, 21:19	#20
JohnnyV1966 Registered FALaholic #: 19420 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,493	A friend reloads for the 7.62x39. He gets two minutes of angle with an Arsenal AK at 100yds using a load consisting of IMI Brass, Hornady 123gr SP, Win or Fed Large Rifle Primer and I think 26.6 grains of RE-7. While deer hunting with him I saw him shoot a deer at about 100 yards just behind the shoulder mid point between the top of the deers back and chest. The Deer dropped, shook its tail twice and remained motionless. Upon field cleaning the bullet had smashed though the center of one rib, turned the deers lungs dark and cherry red with bullet fragments being found on the opposite wall of the chest and lodged in the spine. Clearly a very deadly round not given the respect it deserves for deer hunting.

August 17, 2012, 14:25	#22
daschnoz Registered FALaholic #: 20534 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 780	If you have any 2400 on hand, try about 14gr of that under a 125gr class bullet. The brass will land about 10 feet away. IIRC, you get about 2000fps and the rifle cycles. It's a great Sunday afternoon load. http://www.kirbos.net/reload_data/7....20Complete.pdf http://www.kirbos.net/reload_data/7....omplete%29.pdf __________________ 7.62NATO - because shooting something twice with 5.56NATO is just plain silly. -------------------------------------------------

August 17, 2012, 18:40	#23
Tim Dreas Registered FALaholic #: 17255 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: York,PA Posts: 842	A lot of the load data in many load guides is all over the place with loads. The current load data from the powder companies seems very good though. I don't see any advantage and some disadvantage to using 150 grain bullets. They aren't going fast enough to have an advantage over 123 grain bullets and most of them are made for 150 grain 303 British bullet velocities. Their trajectory is terrible in 7.62x39. They can be accurate at 100 yards though. Current load data from the powder companies that work just as they are suppose to work. Accurate Powder - 123 grain bullet - 27.0 grains of A1680 Hodgdon - 123 grain bullet - 26.5 grains of H-4198 Alliant Powders - 123 grain bullet - 27.0 grains of RL-7 IMR-4227 can work but load data has to be sourced from Speer, Sierra or maybe Lyman. For mild loads the Lyman load data is very good. Sierra had separate load data for both .308" and .311" bullets. Speer has some hot and some not so hot load data. The load data supplied by IMR Powders is way off for both IMR-4227 and IMR-4198. Hornady used to make very accurate .311" bullets but has replaced them with not so accurate .310" bullets. __________________ http://www.mpri.com/

August 17, 2012, 18:43	#24
Tim Dreas Registered FALaholic #: 17255 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: York,PA Posts: 842	Ramshot did work up load data for TAC but says that it is too slow. It can "work" though. H-335 is similar and isn't terrible. H-4895 ends up being really dirty but enough of it stuffed in a case can be accurate. __________________ http://www.mpri.com/

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