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Ounces count
Coming from the school "ounces count"
UPDATED 28 Mar 04 I have not seen a section listing weights of FAL parts example BARREL ASSEMBLY 13.0 oz Izzy LB handguard with screw (Tinfinger)(Jbird) 14.8 oz Izzy HB handguard (wonder if plastic version would be lighter) 9.6 oz Imbel bipod cut handguard with screw (Tinfinger) 6.6 oz Penquin Premium handguards 6.9 oz Penguin (PSAW) economy non-bipod cut with screw (Tinfinger) 6.5 oz Ironwood handguards & screw ((US made & light!)Jbird) 6.2 oz STG-58 metal handguard 6.6 Oz DSA Handguard 32.02 oz 18" Imbel barrel (only Gas block and Gas tube installed) 28.16 Oz 21" Imbel barrel 33.00 Oz 21" STG barrel 3.6 oz Imbel gas piston 3.5 oz DSA gas piston .4 oz Gas piston spring 2.4 oz Imbel gas tube .4 oz gas regulator slleeve and spring (1 gram) .8 oz gas tube retainer nut 1.2 oz Imbel gas plug 1.2 oz G1 gas plug 1.4 oz STG-58 gas plug UPPER RECEIVER 1.8 oz TAPCO SAW handle 22.5 oz Type 1 receiver 22.75 oz Type 2 receiver 26.5 oz Type 3 receiver 23.4 oz Coonan Type 1 Receiver .4 oz DSA Widefoot bolt hold open 1.5 oz STG-58 charging handle .69 OZ TAPCO charging handle 1.81 Oz Imbel charging handle 10.3 oz STG-58 bolt carrier 14.5 oz Para carrier, springs, top cover (Jbird) 15.0 oz Fixed carrier, springs & related pieces, top cover (Jbird) 3.1 oz STG-58 steel cover 1.1 oz DSA alloy cover (nice!) 3.05 oz Top cover (steel) LOWER RECEIVER 50.8 oz unstripped Imbel lower receiver (my measure) 51.5 oz Fixed stock lower total (Jbird) 52.0 oz Para total (steel lower)(Jbird) 20.6 oz Imbel lower receiver w/recoil tube 10.9 oz DSA alloy lower receiver w/recoil tube (my measure) 11.2 oz DSA Alloy lower receiver w/recoil tube (dougjones31) 16.0 oz DSA Stripped steel para lower (dougjones31)(Jbird) 8.0 oz DSA Stripped Alloy para lower (dougjones31) 6.25 oz DSA para stripped aluminum lower (Jbird) 20.5 oz Fixed stripped steel lower (Jbird) 10.3 oz Lower rcvr hardware .2 oz DSA alloy trigger guard .7 oz Imbel trigger guard 9.8 oz Imbel buttstock 4.6 oz Imbel buttpad 7.7 oz Penquin Premium buttstock 6.34 oz Penquin buttstock (SIG220) 6.9 oz STG buttstock 7.8 oz Penguin buttstock ST801 13.5 oz Stripped Israeli LB buttstock, no buttplace, screw, swivel, or ferrule (tinfinger) 2.6 oz Imbel pistol grip 2.55 OZ STG pistol grip 2.53 Oz FSE pistol grip 2.5 oz Penquin Premium pistol grip 5.8 oz Falcon G3-style pistol grip, rigid (not the soft rubber on)(tinfinger) 1.2 oz Imbel rear sling attachment assembly 1.1 oz STG-58 rear swivel 21.5 oz Para stock assembly (hinge, sling swivel, etc)(Jbird) 16.0 oz Fixed stock assembly (screws, pad, sling swivel, etc)(Jbird) 1.3 oz DSA extended safety 8.1 oz FAL steel mag make unknown 3.7 oz FAL aluminum mag (Now I know why paras carried them) 3.7 oz DSA 5-rd hunting magazine 13.5 oz Metric-modded L4A1 30rd mag(FALna45) 39.25 oz Metric-modded L4A1 30rd magw/30rds aussie(FALna45) ACCESSORIES 16.6 oz Trilux sight 8.4 oz Trilux mount/rear cover 22.6 oz Leatherwood Sporter scope Updated 28 Mar 04 Tnt, and others. Do you mind if I add your data to this posting? And yes, this probably does belong under references section. Moderators? Last edited by mintongr; March 28, 2004 at 18:49. |
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December 08, 2003, 18:07
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Yes, please do post these. I am building a lite FAL and this would be very helpful. Like which is lighter, a STG bolt hold back or an Izzy one? You get the idea. Keep um comin.
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December 08, 2003, 18:39
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I have compared the difference in the fixed vs. para parts.
Para carrier, springs, top cover = 14.5 oz. Fixed carrier, springs & related pieces, top cover = 15 oz. Para stock assembly (hinge, sling swivel, etc) = 21.5 oz. Fixed stock assembly (screws, pad, sling swivel, etc) = 16 oz. Para stripped steel lower = 16 oz. DSA para stripped aluminum lower = 6.25 oz. Fixed stripped steel lower = 20.5 oz. Para total (steel lower) = 52 oz. Fixed total = 51.5 oz. Not much difference in totals. The fixed stock is much lighter but the lower makes up for the difference. The DSA aluminum lower & fixed stock might be a very light combination. Assuming the recoil tube is aluminum also. I don't know. Also: Izzy handguards & screw= 13 oz. Metric handguards & screw = 9 oz. Ironwood handguards & screw = 6.5 oz. (US made & light!) |
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December 08, 2003, 18:46
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ounces don't really count in a lot of cases. take biking for example, one can buy the latest hitech lightweight bike, for thousands of dollars, and save a few ounces, but if the rider is a fat a** who is several pounds overweight nothing has been gained, at least until said rider looses the flab and becomes very competitive.
same with rifle shooters, if one is a range commando what difference does the weight of the rifle matter? or a hunter carrying a little chow and water? now if one is a warrior humping a combat load the ounces do matter. i for one am a proud range commando and don't really care about rifle weight, it actually is a good thing, helps tame recoil. |
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Back when I was making the TNT FAL Tactical sights, I made a one of a kind base from 7075 T-6 Aluminum, hard-coat anodized, that weighed about 1/4 oz.
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DSA stripped lightweight lower with recoil tube is .70 lbs.
Edited to add Lbs. but I thought everyone would know that it was not .7 oz! 
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December 09, 2003, 13:19
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Keep um comin big guy. I am pasting these into a word doc for later reference. My kingdom for a scale...
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DSA says
Stripped steel para lower = 1.0 lb Stripped Alloy para lower = .50 lb Stipped lightweight lower w/ recoil tube = .70 lb
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December 23, 2003, 08:56
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I weighed some items on a USPS scale and wanted to add to the data. Some of it may be repetivie, but extra data points are nice to have.
Izzy LB handguard with screw: 13.0 ounces Imbel bipod cut handguard with screw: 9.6 ounces. Penguin (PSAW) economy non-bipod cut with screw: 6.9 ounces. |
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Two new items for the mix:
Stripped Israeli LB buttstock, no buttplace, screw, swivel, or ferrule: 13.5 ounces. Falcon G3-style pistol grip, rigid (not the soft rubber one): 5.8 ounces. (I thought it seemed heavy!) |
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metric-modded L4A1 30rd mag: 13.5oz
w/30rds aussie: 39.25oz! |
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Added STG-58 gas plug weight
Finished a rifle, it came in at 7lbs 14.4 ounces (goal weight 7lbs 8 ounces) Potential weight loss areas Recoil pad (replace with lightweight sorbane) Ideas? Potential weight gain areas Flash suppressor in Sept. M16 type rear sight |
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Thanks for posting these figures. This is a great resource to have available.
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took a bunch of weights the other day (digital scale) while using my (limited) inventory of parts to explore the permutations possible for the shorty i built. here's what i have to add, sorry for any redundancies, i'm just going to copy&paste:
HG ASSEMBLY (w/handguards and screw) IZZY LB 13.75oz STG 7.25oz IMB/CUT 10oz IMB/NON-CUT 8.5oz BUTT ASSEMBLY (w/swivel assy, buttplate or buttpad and screw and ferrule as applicable) IZZY LB 17.5oz STG 12.5oz IMB/CUT 15.75oz XL SA 19oz LOWER, COMPLETE (no buttstock) DSA ALLOY 19oz IMB 29.25oz TOP COVER DSA ALLOY 1.045oz (29.6g) IMBEL 3.12oz (88.5g) TRIGGER GUARD DSA ALLOY 0.178oz (5g) G1 0.714oz (20g) IMBEL 0.714oz (20g) PISTOL GRIP IMB 2.75oz DSA SAW 3.5oz WBBOB’S 2.75oz 16.5" carbine w/alloy lower/ cover /t-guard /DSA internals T1 coonan /balance imbel non bipod kit: +IZZY LB furniture / no mag 8#13.5oz +IZZY LB furniture / 20rds F4+alloy mag 10#2.5oz OAL: 36.5" +STG furniture / no mag 8#2oz +STG furniture / 20rds F4+alloy mag 9#7oz OAL: 37"
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Got some more data today; items were weighed on a postal meter scale.
4.8 oz -- Century STG-like plastic handguards 6.0 oz -- Ironwood unfinished metric walnut handguards 7.1 oz -- STG steel handguards 9.5 oz -- Imbel handguards 11.4 oz -- Ironwood unfinished metric walnut buttstock 2.3 oz -- Century metric pistol grip 2.5 oz -- Ironwood unfinished metric pistol grip 16.1 oz -- L1A1 sand cut bolt carrier and bolt (including rattail) 22.8 oz -- DSA Type I receiver 4.7 oz -- Imbel muzzle combo device 6.3 oz -- Stoll muzzle device |
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Anybody have the weight on the new DSA Para folding stock?
Also weight of TAPCO T48 front handguard? |
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Just took the Stoll device and bipod off my STG-58 and weighed them as part of "the diet program".
Somebody already listed the Stoll but I didn't notice the bipod yet. STG-58 Bipod (with all the screws and such) 357 grams, or 12.6 oz |
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there are many other factors I havn't seen addressed. Consider a StG rear sight base is hollow, an IMBEL is not. A recopil spring plug is hollow on some, Some rear sling swivel plates are aluminum, etc.
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G1 lowers are noticably lighter in the hand than StGs, etc., but I have not actually measured. SWAG is 2 to 4 Oz.
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Some lowers do not have the internal lightening cuts. I assume late StGs were like that as at some point Austrian switched from type 1 upper receivers to the 3 oz(?) heavier type III.
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If you want to get really serious about it, what is the weight difference between blueing, parkerizing, gun koting, dura coating, etc... Or versus all of the above and stripped in the white. Just came to mind considering the tests the US did for aircraft in WWII. Also notice that Japaneese use a thinner type of paint for their cars thus making it several lbs lighter. To put it into perspective think of a bucket of household paint and how heavy they feel both full and empty or a can of gun kote both full and emty. Adding Gun Kote to an FAL I would imagine it would add atleast 5+ ounces. Good thread by the way. I just removed my combo device from my muzzle and realized and immediate difference and that was only about 4 oz? A muzzle device multiplys the felt weight of the rifle when shooting offhand.
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I have way tto much time on my hands.
This list is was put together from previous postings, plus a few of my own.
BARREL ASSEMBLY Barrel 21” standard 28 ounces Argentine 21” (with gas block – nothing else) 32.2 ounces (my measure) Australian wood handguards 7.5 ounces Century STG-like plastic handguards 5.0 ounces DSA SA58 handguards 6.4 ounces (my measure) FNC handguards 11.8 ounces (my measure) Imbel non-bipod cut handguards 8.5 ounces Imbel bipod cut handguards 9.5 ounces Ironwood handguards 6.5 ounces Izzy LB handguards 13.0 ounces Izzy HB handguards 14.5 ounces Penguin Premium handguards 6.5 ounces Penguin Economy non-bipod cut handguards 7.0 ounces R1 Synthetic handguards 7.5 ounces STG steel handguards 6.5 ounces Imbel gas plug 1.0 ounces G1 gas plug 1.0 ounces L1A1 gas plug 1.3 ounces (my measure) STG-58 gas plug 1.5 ounces Imbel gas tube 2.5 ounces Gas piston spring 0.5 ounces Imbel gas piston 3.5 ounces DSA gas piston 3.5 ounces Argentine gas piston 3.5 ounces (my measure) Gas piston retainer nut 1.0 ounces Gas regulator sleeve and spring 0.5 ounces STG-58 bi-pod assembly 12.5 ounces Imbel combo muzzle device 4.5 ounces Stoll muzzle device 6.5 ounces UPPER RECEIVER ASSEMBLY DSA type 1 receiver 22.5 ounces DSA type 2 receiver 23.2 ounces (my measure) DSA type 3 receiver 26.5 ounces Dan Coonan type 1 receiver 23.5 ounces Hesse 26.0 ounces Imbel type 3 receiver 26.25 ounces L1A1 receiver 22.5 ounces 1A Indian 21.0 – 24.0 ounces William’s Alumalite 8.0 ounces STG carry handle 1.5 ounces (my measure) Tapco saw carry handle 1.8 ounces (my measure) GP-COP mount 6.0 ounces (my measure) Steel dust cover 3.0 ounces DSA alloy dust cover 1.0 ounces STG charging handle 1.5 ounces Tapco charging handle 1.0 ounces Imbel charging handle 2.0 ounces STG bolt carrier 10.5 ounces L1A1 bolt carrier assembly 16.0 ounces DSA bolt hold open (wide foot) 0.5 ounces LOWER RECEIVER ASSEMBLY DSA stripped alloy standard lower with tube 11.0 ounces Steel stripped standard lower with tube 20.5 ounces DSA stripped alloy paratrooper lower 8.0 ounces Steel stripped paratrooper lower 16.0 ounces Steel assembled paratrooper lower 52.0 ounces Steel assembled standard lower 51.5 ounces DSA extended safety 1.5 ounces DSA alloy trigger guard 0.5 ounces Imbel trigger guard 1.0 ounces Australian wood pistol grip 3.0 ounces Penguin premium pistol grip 2.5 ounces Falcon G3-style pistol grip, rigid 6.0 ounces Imbel pistol grip 3.0 ounces Tapco saw pistol grip 3.5 ounces Century pistol grip 2.5 ounces Ironwood unfinished pistol grip 2.5 ounces R1 Synthetic pistol grip 2.5 ounces Ferrule wood butt stock 0.8 ounces Australian wood butt stock 15.0 ounces G1 wood butt stock 14.5 ounces Imbel butt stock (stripped) 10.0 ounces Ironwood unfinished butt stock 11.5 ounces Israeli LB stripped butt stock 13.5 ounces Penguin humpback butt stock 8.0 ounces R1 Synthetic (long / solid) butt stock 12.5 ounces R1 Synthetic (short / solid) butt stock 10.0 ounces STG butt stock (stripped) 7.0 ounces Walnut humpback 15.0 ounces Rear swivel assembly 1.0 ounces Imbel buttstock pad 4.5 ounces ACCESSORIES Steel 20 round magazine 8.5 ounces Loaded 26.0 ounces Aluminum 20 round magazine 4.0 ounces DSA 5 round magazine 4.0 ounces Ammunition “FN SS 77” (1 round) 0.86 ounces Trilux sight 16.5 ounces Trilux mount & rear cover 8.5 ounces Leatherwood Sporter scope 22.5 ounces Girlfriend 4800.0 ounces |
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Re: I have way tto much time on my hands.
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well if your gonna get seroius about weight control consider this. when french manufactors build airplane parts for use they round and smooth all the edges, and blend out the extra material. when someone else builds the same part, they send it as is, the french parts are just as strong but lighter. there is extra material on all the parts inside the gun cause they were made quickly and weight wasnt the ultimate goal. look at it like street racers do dont look for 10 places to save an ounce, look for 1000 places to save a 1/10 of an ounce. dremel. dotco, sander. drill some extra lightening holes in the hand guard, smooth out those sharp edges,replace your mag floor plate with aluminum, shave down the cocking handle, do you really need a carry handle, profile the safety selector and lock lever. does your trigger guard need to be a half inch wide, use the sand cut bolt. just ideas hou guys. when i build a gun i grinds sand and buff most the parts. its gotta save some weight
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Yup. Racing cars have a color for each country - Germany is supposed to be painted white, but the Mercedes and Porsche teams realized that by not painting they could save about 20lbs in weight, which could be used for a little more gas, etc. Rules only said "if painted, must be country color" - nothing about non-painted. So many folks see a silver Porsche/MB and assume that silver was the race color for Germany...
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Talked to Leapers about their rail mount and got back a reply that the rail weighs in at 444grams or 15.6ozs.
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Nice to see so many interested in weight saving as are we at B&T Ent. Ltd. Our L.T.R. optics rail weighs in at 1.2 oz on a standard FAL or Para cover if you really want to save weight have a look see at ours.
www.falltr.com nice to see Leapers is a dog as well for weight, DSA's only 11.5oz. We still win hands down. The modern equivalent of what a S.U.I.T would be in this the 21st century. Our rail, Hight Burris Zee rings and a 3x9 compact Leupold is only 1 lb and 2/10's of an ounce. 1 lb 9oz almost for the original S.U.I.T and 4x scope. Have a look see.
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Here are some measurements taken off my rifle, a DSA SA58 Para:
0.6 oz, steel trigger guard 3.0 oz, FN-made SAW pistol grip 0.5 oz, grip screw 0.8 oz, joint pin, both parts 10.2 oz, para sand-cut carrier 10.8 oz, DSA full-length railed scope mount (w/ all hardware + para guide rod) 15.0 oz, DSA railed handguard (w/ all hardware) 6.1 oz, completely assembled bolt 4.0 oz, gas rod w/ spring 1.4 oz, gas plug 1.9 oz, Slocat folding charging handle w/ stop lug (converted to metric) 1.4 oz, DSA charging handle (complete w/ stop lug) 0.5 oz, Slocat extended mag release w/ spring 0.3 oz, DSA mag release w/ spring 0.1 oz, mag release pivot screw 0.5 oz, bolt hold open w/ spring 8.1 oz, 20 round steel mag, Israeli 1.3 oz, ITC cheek riser/pad 35.1 oz, para alloy lower w/ folding stock (complete except grip, grip screw and trigger guard) 60.7 oz, 18" barreled upper with Belgian type short FH, gas regulator and spring, ejector block and front sight) |
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There are a lot of numbers up there, but for me,I know that my Short-gas FN-Fal with DSA furniture and a standard recoil spring system weighs right around eight pounds unloaded. That is light enough for just about anything you would want to do with it. There is no DSA scope mount or carry handle being used either. Although It seems that no one is going to be satisfied until they get a six to seven pound Fal, which I think is almost impossible unless someone comes up with a new lightweight alloy receiver. Even the standard AR10 weighs between 7 to 9 pounds, so what are you really looking for?
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