CZ --VZ24 Mauser Value???

randy762ak · May 03, 2012, 20:59

I was at an Auction tonight and I was waving to friend and LO and Behold I just purchased This VZ 24..With buyers fee and tax I dropped $201.00 out the door ,,Stock and action NO# Match But the Bolt is Mis -matched..Bore sparkling Bright. date 1937 pre war so the fit and finish are better than later war manufactures.. I plan to shoot LOTS of Cast BOOLITS out of it.. A couple of character marks from when it was stacked on a pallet But not refinished .. Im No Mauser specialist But Im to understand the VZ-24 was a great action for a custom rifle -!!! Anyone have info On this one ??????

EDIT--The only top receiver marking is the Date 1937-NO crest

STGThndr · May 03, 2012, 22:53

Nice- the pre-war rifles made in the failed rogue State of Czechoslovakia are top of the line, all those which Ive had hands on look and shoot very well. Any Nazi waffenamt or other proofs on it?

**ac7120** · May 04, 2012, 07:55

The VZ 24 is a good rifle with a strong Mauser action. The price you paid is a good price especially with a bright, shiny bore. Many of the original VZ 24 rifles have worn, dark bores, unless you find one of the Yugoslavian 24/47 rifles, but the original Czech receiver crest was ground off, and replaced with the Yugo crest. Shoot the heck out of it, and enjoy!

randy762ak · May 04, 2012, 17:21

Any Nazi waffenamt or other proofs on it?

NO-! and No Import stamp either.....
I see In SG news J+G had 24-47's with mis matched bolts for $229.00 So I think I did OK...

Have you ever tried to remove the Numbers off the bolt-So Instead of Mismatched Its a un numbered bolt???

tac-40 · May 04, 2012, 19:54

I just picked one up about a month ago for a little more than you did. Mine is a sweet shooter. Since I didn't have any 8mm ammo, I bought a bunch of the Iranian 8mm from Samco Global. Very accurate brass cased but corrosive. And it seem to me to be loaded hotter than other 8mm.

Is your wood stained red? Mine is and I am thinking of refinishing it to bring out the natural finish.

randy762ak · May 04, 2012, 20:06

Mine is dark from all the years It needs to be cleaned Badly..Sadly I just notice the front sight is Buggered up The dove tail the blade slides in is cracked and the blade will almost come out with my fingers-NO biggie I can Tig it up and them file it to fit or replace the ft sight base ,, Cleaned the bore again and its really sharp. So it will shoot!

Clark · May 18, 2012, 12:40

I own ~ 50 VZ24s.
At least one of my projects is finished

I see them for $250 on the table in shows.
I just got 2/$200 = $100 in the parking lot.

randy762ak · May 18, 2012, 20:33

WOW==id say you have the market cornered ---

DO you have an extra front sight assembly you care to sell=the solder on tube with the set screw under the blade,,Its past gun show season here So Ill ask around here-!

gunsmoke · May 20, 2012, 01:06

In the last 10 years or so ago AIM SURPLUS had bunches fo less than $90 with sling cleaning kit bayonet when I got the first six and saw how well they shot, looked good, looked brand new, so while they were 90/per I did what comes natural

I BOUGHT MORE!

Nope didn't buy nearly enough, none for sale!

STGThndr · May 20, 2012, 02:23

The Czechs made nice rifles. I had a Yugo-reworked 24 with the straight bolt which was so accurate I was tempted to put a spare Weaver 4X on it.

gew98 · May 20, 2012, 08:49

Rndy ; As you likely know already the germans used every Vz24 that fell into their hands. More often than not the only way to tell a Vz24 was in german service was the german modification of removing the wrist mounted sling swivel and plugging it with a dowel. I have had Vz24's with WaA proofs from repair shops/depots to include HzA markings in the wood. Those are not common though. The germans accepted Polish and Czech mausers as quality arms and did not go through any proofing process to integrate them into german service , especailly so with the same service caliber as the germans used.
Now with a 1937 date you may have a japanese supplied VZ24 as the japs procured several thousand 1937 dated Vz's in the 'P' serial range. If you 'czech' ( pardon the pun ! ) your serial and it's in the 'P' serial range you certainly have a Vz brought home form the pacific. Most of these were captured in naval ( japanese ) depots ... along with a number that the chinese ended up with too.

SawbriarRips · May 21, 2012, 10:33

My understanding is the Germans were required to give the Czechs Mauser rifle making machines per Treaty of Versailles.

My question for the VZ24 Mauser experts would be...

Would a FN Model 1930 short rifle (straight bolt)(not carbine) drop into a VZ24 stock?

All my initial research indicates it would and I'm itchin' to finish this restoration.
All information and assistance is truly appreciated.

Respectfully to all...

Sawbriar Rips

gew98 · June 07, 2012, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by SawbriarRips

My understanding is the Germans were required to give the Czechs Mauser rifle making machines per Treaty of Versailles.

My question for the VZ24 Mauser experts would be...

Would a FN Model 1930 short rifle (straight bolt)(not carbine) drop into a VZ24 stock?

All my initial research indicates it would and I'm itchin' to finish this restoration.
All information and assistance is truly appreciated.

Respectfully to all...

Sawbriar Rips

I'm no fan of t FN bolt rifles of the same era(s). There are so many variations for export and differences in small parts like bands etc etc... that any restoration of an FN 24 is problematic at best unless you know it's lineage ...and even then ?.

fubar · June 12, 2012, 08:23

Just picked up a '37 VZ-24 last week for $225 out the door. Nice but dirty bore, bubbad stock. Only reason I bought it was because it still had the Czech crest on it and had all the hallmarks of being used by the Germans (blued VZ bolt and mag follower). No import marks, I'm thinking it was a vet bringback. Yeah, I probably paid too much. But if it stayed in the shop where it was, sooner or later someone would have bought it drilled and tapped it for a scope to go a-huntin' with.

So...it's been rescued. Rounding up parts to restore the old war horse at the moment.

STGThndr · June 12, 2012, 09:45

Hows the bore after a seriously good clean-up? If it is in good shape, and everything functions, hopefully with as many original parts as possible... ya didnt pay too much given the market these days!

fubar · June 12, 2012, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by STGThndr

Hows the bore after a seriously good clean-up? If it is in good shape, and everything functions, hopefully with as many original parts as possible... ya didnt pay too much given the market these days!

Bore is cleaning up nice, had quite a bit of copper fouling but the daily brushing with fresh Hoppe's is showing less and less copper.

Unfortunately only the barrel and receiver match. Bolt doesn't even match itself, but could have wound up that way when the Germans disassembled them for bluing. Stock looks like a bubbad K98 Mauser. Backwoods sporterized, dontcha know.

It's kind of a mutt, but I have a thing for rescuing old milsurps, even if I get a bit upside down on them.

festus · June 12, 2012, 14:08

I bought a vet bring back from the guy that picked it out of a pile of guns right before the tanks ran over them in Northern Italy in 1944. CZ and Czech crest, all matching, with the barrel grove scorched from rapid firing. The Nazi stamps are in the original wood stock, so they just grabbed it from an arsenal and issued it as is. Good shooter too.

Clark · June 18, 2012, 21:05

THe ball is stock, the bend is where I welded.

Most of my VZ24s are short barreled 8mm, but I have a few 7mm Brazilian VZ24s with a flat side of the bolt ball.

I also have one VZ22 that is long like a Turkish Mauser, but looks like a VZ24 other than that.

May 03, 2012, 20:59	#1
randy762ak Registered FALaholic #: 25888 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: From the commie state of stinking NY Posts: 1,483	CZ --VZ24 Mauser Value??? I was at an Auction tonight and I was waving to friend and LO and Behold I just purchased This VZ 24..With buyers fee and tax I dropped $201.00 out the door ,,Stock and action NO# Match But the Bolt is Mis -matched..Bore sparkling Bright. date 1937 pre war so the fit and finish are better than later war manufactures.. I plan to shoot LOTS of Cast BOOLITS out of it.. A couple of character marks from when it was stacked on a pallet But not refinished .. Im No Mauser specialist But Im to understand the VZ-24 was a great action for a custom rifle -!!! Anyone have info On this one ?????? EDIT--The only top receiver marking is the Date 1937-NO crest Last edited by randy762ak; May 03, 2012 at 21:18.

May 03, 2012, 22:53	#2
STGThndr Registered FALaholic #: 14583 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Colorado mtns and desert Posts: 3,409	Nice- the pre-war rifles made in the failed rogue State of Czechoslovakia are top of the line, all those which Ive had hands on look and shoot very well. Any Nazi waffenamt or other proofs on it? __________________ Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B Yeats Last edited by STGThndr; May 04, 2012 at 08:59. Reason: to phrase a question

May 04, 2012, 07:55	#3
ac7120 Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 63517 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 134	The VZ 24 is a good rifle with a strong Mauser action. The price you paid is a good price especially with a bright, shiny bore. Many of the original VZ 24 rifles have worn, dark bores, unless you find one of the Yugoslavian 24/47 rifles, but the original Czech receiver crest was ground off, and replaced with the Yugo crest. Shoot the heck out of it, and enjoy! __________________ Sarge

May 04, 2012, 19:54	#5
tac-40 Moderator Armed Curmudgeon FALaholic #: 12090 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SC-Low Country Posts: 4,523	I just picked one up about a month ago for a little more than you did. Mine is a sweet shooter. Since I didn't have any 8mm ammo, I bought a bunch of the Iranian 8mm from Samco Global. Very accurate brass cased but corrosive. And it seem to me to be loaded hotter than other 8mm. Is your wood stained red? Mine is and I am thinking of refinishing it to bring out the natural finish. __________________ Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you.....Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom. Lt. Col. Grant L. Rosensteel, Jr. USAF ______________________________ If you do in fact have a problem, you have the rest of your life to solve it. How long your life lasts only depends on how well you solve it.

May 18, 2012, 12:40	#7
Clark Registered FALaholic #: 1213 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 750	I own ~ 50 VZ24s. At least one of my projects is finished I see them for $250 on the table in shows. I just got 2/$200 = $100 in the parking lot. __________________ No technical content or wit in your rude post... no response from me....I'll give the last word to a turd.

May 04, 2012, 17:21	#4
randy762ak Registered FALaholic #: 25888 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: From the commie state of stinking NY Posts: 1,483	Any Nazi waffenamt or other proofs on it? NO-! and No Import stamp either..... I see In SG news J+G had 24-47's with mis matched bolts for $229.00 So I think I did OK... Have you ever tried to remove the Numbers off the bolt-So Instead of Mismatched Its a un numbered bolt???

May 04, 2012, 20:06	#6
randy762ak Registered FALaholic #: 25888 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: From the commie state of stinking NY Posts: 1,483	Mine is dark from all the years It needs to be cleaned Badly..Sadly I just notice the front sight is Buggered up The dove tail the blade slides in is cracked and the blade will almost come out with my fingers-NO biggie I can Tig it up and them file it to fit or replace the ft sight base ,, Cleaned the bore again and its really sharp. So it will shoot!

May 18, 2012, 20:33	#8
randy762ak Registered FALaholic #: 25888 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: From the commie state of stinking NY Posts: 1,483	WOW==id say you have the market cornered --- DO you have an extra front sight assembly you care to sell=the solder on tube with the set screw under the blade,,Its past gun show season here So Ill ask around here-!

May 20, 2012, 01:06	#9
gunsmoke Registered FALaholic #: 14772 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: LOUISIANA Posts: 1,196	In the last 10 years or so ago AIM SURPLUS had bunches fo less than $90 with sling cleaning kit bayonet when I got the first six and saw how well they shot, looked good, looked brand new, so while they were 90/per I did what comes natural I BOUGHT MORE! Nope didn't buy nearly enough, none for sale! __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

May 20, 2012, 02:23	#10
STGThndr Registered FALaholic #: 14583 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Colorado mtns and desert Posts: 3,409	The Czechs made nice rifles. I had a Yugo-reworked 24 with the straight bolt which was so accurate I was tempted to put a spare Weaver 4X on it. __________________ Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B Yeats

May 20, 2012, 08:49	#11
gew98 Registered FALaholic #: 32830 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: away from taxation without representation , Kentucky !. Posts: 774	Rndy ; As you likely know already the germans used every Vz24 that fell into their hands. More often than not the only way to tell a Vz24 was in german service was the german modification of removing the wrist mounted sling swivel and plugging it with a dowel. I have had Vz24's with WaA proofs from repair shops/depots to include HzA markings in the wood. Those are not common though. The germans accepted Polish and Czech mausers as quality arms and did not go through any proofing process to integrate them into german service , especailly so with the same service caliber as the germans used. Now with a 1937 date you may have a japanese supplied VZ24 as the japs procured several thousand 1937 dated Vz's in the 'P' serial range. If you 'czech' ( pardon the pun ! ) your serial and it's in the 'P' serial range you certainly have a Vz brought home form the pacific. Most of these were captured in naval ( japanese ) depots ... along with a number that the chinese ended up with too. __________________ The vice of capitolism is it's unequal sharing of blessings. The Virtue of Socialism is it's equal sharing of MISERY. Winston Churchill 1) Culture builds upon the past 2) The past always tries to control the future. 3) Our future is becoming less free 4) To build free societies you must limit control of the past. All hail lord IMPOTUS and Darth Biden All hail.

May 21, 2012, 10:33	#12
SawbriarRips Registered FALaholic #: 63304 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 99	CZ-24 Mauser Stock/FN 1930 Short Rifle. My understanding is the Germans were required to give the Czechs Mauser rifle making machines per Treaty of Versailles. My question for the VZ24 Mauser experts would be... Would a FN Model 1930 short rifle (straight bolt)(not carbine) drop into a VZ24 stock? All my initial research indicates it would and I'm itchin' to finish this restoration. All information and assistance is truly appreciated. Respectfully to all... Sawbriar Rips

June 12, 2012, 08:23	#14
fubar Registered FALaholic #: 1994 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Crestwood, Ky. Posts: 371	Just picked up a '37 VZ-24 last week for $225 out the door. Nice but dirty bore, bubbad stock. Only reason I bought it was because it still had the Czech crest on it and had all the hallmarks of being used by the Germans (blued VZ bolt and mag follower). No import marks, I'm thinking it was a vet bringback. Yeah, I probably paid too much. But if it stayed in the shop where it was, sooner or later someone would have bought it drilled and tapped it for a scope to go a-huntin' with. So...it's been rescued. Rounding up parts to restore the old war horse at the moment. __________________ I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learner's permit. Last edited by fubar; June 12, 2012 at 12:52.

June 12, 2012, 09:45	#15
STGThndr Registered FALaholic #: 14583 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Colorado mtns and desert Posts: 3,409	Hows the bore after a seriously good clean-up? If it is in good shape, and everything functions, hopefully with as many original parts as possible... ya didnt pay too much given the market these days! __________________ Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B Yeats

June 12, 2012, 14:08	#17
festus Registered FALaholic #: 7928 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hampstead North Carolina Posts: 1,072	I bought a vet bring back from the guy that picked it out of a pile of guns right before the tanks ran over them in Northern Italy in 1944. CZ and Czech crest, all matching, with the barrel grove scorched from rapid firing. The Nazi stamps are in the original wood stock, so they just grabbed it from an arsenal and issued it as is. Good shooter too. __________________ Festus

June 18, 2012, 21:05	#18
Clark Registered FALaholic #: 1213 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 750	THe ball is stock, the bend is where I welded. Most of my VZ24s are short barreled 8mm, but I have a few 7mm Brazilian VZ24s with a flat side of the bolt ball. I also have one VZ22 that is long like a Turkish Mauser, but looks like a VZ24 other than that. __________________ No technical content or wit in your rude post... no response from me....I'll give the last word to a turd.

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