G1 muzzle break

quicksilver · February 22, 2012, 22:32

I have a G1 rifle that has the lug on the barrel for the original flash hider and I am looking for a muzzle break that can be silver soldered as the barrel is does not threaded. I could then grind the lug off. Anyone know of one?

hardass · February 23, 2012, 07:12

why don't you swap the G1 barrel for a stg, or other makes that have thrds already. no need to alter [destroy] a good G1.

nfafan · February 23, 2012, 08:54

I face a similar predicament with a "G1-like" barrel on my Argy. Nothing fits but the bayo that creates a 3-prong FH once attached.

Can a FALsmith swap barrels for a FH-threaded barrel without damage to either barrels and recvr?

FUUN063 · February 23, 2012, 09:09

Yes, swapping barrels would be the preferred method, especially for hard to find barrels such as these.

Leland

nictra · February 23, 2012, 09:27

swap and sell me your G1....please?

quicksilver · February 23, 2012, 09:33

Since the build is already headspaced and the barrel is installed I suppose I could just do without a muzzle brake. I hate to take the barrel off.

**def90** · February 25, 2012, 01:03

If you have a barrel that is "Lugged" for the love of god please do not "grind" it off.. There are people here that would do anything to trade you for a regular barrel.

**LaConservationist** · February 25, 2012, 07:16

WAIT!!! You have a G1 barrel with lug attached.....correct?

You are wanting to put on a Muzzle Device...correct?

You are aware that there ARE G1 muzzle devices made for that barrel?

Get you a G1 Muzzle Device, install it and forget it!

OR like others stated, I am sure there are MANY here that would swap you a number of different barrels, bi-pod or NON bipod cut barrels for your G1 barrel!!!

PLEASE do NOT neuter your G1 in ANY WAY!.......

LaC

quicksilver · February 25, 2012, 09:01

I have decided to leave it in its original condition. After doing a lot of reading here and on the web the last several days its not worth it to change it. Thanks for all the replies to my question.

danmc77 · February 25, 2012, 09:35

here - this clicks on in place of the flash hider - no modification necessary.

http://auction-e.com/fnfal-niw-metri...206400876.html

The Pigpen · February 25, 2012, 11:26

Yeah, have thought about switching out my G1 barrel too. I was thinking of somthing shorter.

I just have this feeling that the MD is affecting accuracy.(or is it effecting?)

I guess I need to do some testing.

quicksilver · February 25, 2012, 17:34

I already have one of those long flash hiders that came with the kit it has a lug on it. It is a very loose fit and I would not fire the rifle with it like it is. I read on here that Moses can sleeve them & he might be able to tighten it up I suppose.

quicksilver · February 25, 2012, 21:42

Does the original have to sleeved and soldered on to be legal or just soldered?

**def90** · February 26, 2012, 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by quicksilver

Does the original have to sleeved and soldered on to be legal or just soldered?

You are in Texas.. does not need to be soldered or anything else.. legal as is in original military configuration.

**inrem** · February 26, 2012, 04:37

As you are in Texas and not NYC, why don't you do what I do with my G1s in Pennsylvania - just use the flash hider G-d intended them to work with. You may need a new one or just perhaps a new spring clip. Twist on, Twist off. Depress the spring clip (if it has one - not alll of them do) while you turn.

You can get a new or newish flash hider for perhaps $20. Cheap and looks nice. If in good shape there is no way it is comming off without you wanting it to.

quicksilver · February 26, 2012, 09:47

I will find a new one.

gunnut1 · February 26, 2012, 23:07

I do not use the G1 flash hider as it WILL change the point of impact. I have even used a brand new G1FH with the same effect. I shoot the gun without a FH and I am quite happy with it.

**def90** · February 26, 2012, 23:23

Yeah, unless you are involved in active night ops and have a need to roll around in the bushes at night without being spotted the flash hider is just for looks. I wouldn't bother with it and just shoot without it.

**J. Armstrong** · February 28, 2012, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by quicksilver

I have decided to leave it in its original condition. After doing a lot of reading here and on the web the last several days its not worth it to change it. Thanks for all the replies to my question.

Good on ya ----- that is the correct answer

Roadmarker · March 03, 2012, 16:33

Shoot your rifle with and without your flash hider. See what way gives you better groups. I'm betting that it will maintain tighter groups with the flash hider due to the dampening effect on barrel harmonics. Your case may vary. (21 inch FAL barrels are very thin in respect to their length and most whip vertically when fired.) If you still want to try something else I'll trade you a very nice STG barrel with a screw on flash hider.

4 brigada · March 04, 2012, 11:28

I think DS Arms use to make a screw on G1 type F/H. Because I live in the PRK. I bought the "fake" version, left hand thread. You might be able to find one of the "real" cut ones.

ADDED LATER

Disregard, thought you had a threaded barrel and wanted a G1 F/H. Put a real G1 F/H and forget about it. Im looking for a real nice one myself, I saw a real good one on GB, with the bayo lug on the F/H and looks refinished. Some guy in Surprise AZ is selling .......

**DakTo** · March 04, 2012, 12:13

An option with a M2 lugged barrel or even a G1 barrel is to cut the rear locking section off a G1 flash hider and solder it on.

**J. Armstrong** · March 05, 2012, 11:59

Besides changing the poi, the detachable fh WILL batter the muzzle crown and ultimately affect the accuracy of the rifle even when it is removed.

It is a "make-do" idea presumably from the same fertile imaginations that brought us the removeable bipod and metal hgs - in other words, an artificial solution to a non existant problem.

February 22, 2012, 22:32	#1
quicksilver Registered FALaholic #: 6373 Join Date: May 2002 Location: forney texas Posts: 39	G1 muzzle break I have a G1 rifle that has the lug on the barrel for the original flash hider and I am looking for a muzzle break that can be silver soldered as the barrel is does not threaded. I could then grind the lug off. Anyone know of one?

February 23, 2012, 08:54	#3
nfafan Registered FALaholic #: 6249 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 136	I face a similar predicament with a "G1-like" barrel on my Argy. Nothing fits but the bayo that creates a 3-prong FH once attached. Can a FALsmith swap barrels for a FH-threaded barrel without damage to either barrels and recvr? __________________ Steve in PA, USA - where we are a re-election away from becoming Zimbabwe

February 23, 2012, 09:33	#6
quicksilver Registered FALaholic #: 6373 Join Date: May 2002 Location: forney texas Posts: 39	G1 muzzle brake Since the build is already headspaced and the barrel is installed I suppose I could just do without a muzzle brake. I hate to take the barrel off.

February 25, 2012, 01:03	#7
def90 Old Fart Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 50609 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Peoples' Republic of Boulder, Colorado Posts: 8,840	If you have a barrel that is "Lugged" for the love of god please do not "grind" it off.. There are people here that would do anything to trade you for a regular barrel. __________________ There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live. Public libraries cannot let the public decide what is allowed in the library, or it would be brimming with pornography and gun magazines.

February 25, 2012, 07:16	#8
LaConservationist IN DENIAL NOT ADDICTED!! Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 42319 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Louisiana Bayous! Posts: 6,388	WAIT!!! You have a G1 barrel with lug attached.....correct? You are wanting to put on a Muzzle Device...correct? You are aware that there ARE G1 muzzle devices made for that barrel? Get you a G1 Muzzle Device, install it and forget it! OR like others stated, I am sure there are MANY here that would swap you a number of different barrels, bi-pod or NON bipod cut barrels for your G1 barrel!!! PLEASE do NOT neuter your G1 in ANY WAY!....... LaC __________________ In MEMORY of Roger "DUNKRD" Dunkelbarger September 13, 1943 - May 09, 2010 "Any one who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him, better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

February 23, 2012, 07:12	#2
hardass Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 21749 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: florida parishes Posts: 462	why don't you swap the G1 barrel for a stg, or other makes that have thrds already. no need to alter [destroy] a good G1.

February 23, 2012, 09:09	#4
FUUN063 Computer Illiterate Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 35576 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Converse, Indiana Posts: 4,587	Yes, swapping barrels would be the preferred method, especially for hard to find barrels such as these. Leland

February 23, 2012, 09:27	#5
nictra Registered FALaholic #: 36686 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 107	swap and sell me your G1....please?

February 25, 2012, 09:01	#9
quicksilver Registered FALaholic #: 6373 Join Date: May 2002 Location: forney texas Posts: 39	Gi muzzle break I have decided to leave it in its original condition. After doing a lot of reading here and on the web the last several days its not worth it to change it. Thanks for all the replies to my question.

February 25, 2012, 09:35	#10
danmc77 Registered FALaholic #: 64927 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Barto PA Posts: 129	here - this clicks on in place of the flash hider - no modification necessary. http://auction-e.com/fnfal-niw-metri...206400876.html

February 25, 2012, 11:26	#11
The Pigpen Registered FALaholic #: 51732 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: new mexico Posts: 201	Yeah, have thought about switching out my G1 barrel too. I was thinking of somthing shorter. I just have this feeling that the MD is affecting accuracy.(or is it effecting?) I guess I need to do some testing. __________________ I'm Like a pirate, always look'n fer booty.

February 25, 2012, 17:34	#12
quicksilver Registered FALaholic #: 6373 Join Date: May 2002 Location: forney texas Posts: 39	I already have one of those long flash hiders that came with the kit it has a lug on it. It is a very loose fit and I would not fire the rifle with it like it is. I read on here that Moses can sleeve them & he might be able to tighten it up I suppose.

February 25, 2012, 21:42	#13
quicksilver Registered FALaholic #: 6373 Join Date: May 2002 Location: forney texas Posts: 39	Does the original have to sleeved and soldered on to be legal or just soldered?

February 26, 2012, 04:37	#15
inrem Member Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 19725 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 239	As you are in Texas and not NYC, why don't you do what I do with my G1s in Pennsylvania - just use the flash hider G-d intended them to work with. You may need a new one or just perhaps a new spring clip. Twist on, Twist off. Depress the spring clip (if it has one - not alll of them do) while you turn. You can get a new or newish flash hider for perhaps $20. Cheap and looks nice. If in good shape there is no way it is comming off without you wanting it to.

February 26, 2012, 09:47	#16
quicksilver Registered FALaholic #: 6373 Join Date: May 2002 Location: forney texas Posts: 39	I will find a new one.

February 26, 2012, 23:07	#17
gunnut1 Moderator Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 1877 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The great Republic of Texas USA!!!!! Posts: 10,429	I do not use the G1 flash hider as it WILL change the point of impact. I have even used a brand new G1FH with the same effect. I shoot the gun without a FH and I am quite happy with it. __________________ Texas, it's a state of mind!!!! The human race is not the pinnacle of evolution. We are but one evolutionary out come.

February 26, 2012, 23:23	#18
def90 Old Fart Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 50609 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Peoples' Republic of Boulder, Colorado Posts: 8,840	Yeah, unless you are involved in active night ops and have a need to roll around in the bushes at night without being spotted the flash hider is just for looks. I wouldn't bother with it and just shoot without it. __________________ There is no theory of evolution, just a list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live. Public libraries cannot let the public decide what is allowed in the library, or it would be brimming with pornography and gun magazines.

March 03, 2012, 16:33	#20
Roadmarker Ever vigilant Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 63605 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Helena, Montana Posts: 753	Shoot your rifle with and without your flash hider. See what way gives you better groups. I'm betting that it will maintain tighter groups with the flash hider due to the dampening effect on barrel harmonics. Your case may vary. (21 inch FAL barrels are very thin in respect to their length and most whip vertically when fired.) If you still want to try something else I'll trade you a very nice STG barrel with a screw on flash hider.

March 04, 2012, 11:28	#21
4 brigada Registered FALaholic #: 17849 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 1,514	I think DS Arms use to make a screw on G1 type F/H. Because I live in the PRK. I bought the "fake" version, left hand thread. You might be able to find one of the "real" cut ones. ADDED LATER Disregard, thought you had a threaded barrel and wanted a G1 F/H. Put a real G1 F/H and forget about it. Im looking for a real nice one myself, I saw a real good one on GB, with the bayo lug on the F/H and looks refinished. Some guy in Surprise AZ is selling ....... __________________ "Now, pilots are highly trained people, and wings not easily won; but without the work of the maintenance man...our pilots would march with a gun" Last edited by 4 brigada; March 04, 2012 at 11:34.

March 04, 2012, 12:13	#22
DakTo MadMinuteDude Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 9689 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Constitution State Posts: 5,430	An option with a M2 lugged barrel or even a G1 barrel is to cut the rear locking section off a G1 flash hider and solder it on. __________________ Never Take A Pistol To A Gun Fight!

March 05, 2012, 11:59	#23
J. Armstrong Minister of Amusement Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 13629 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SE Pa Posts: 8,502	Besides changing the poi, the detachable fh WILL batter the muzzle crown and ultimately affect the accuracy of the rifle even when it is removed. It is a "make-do" idea presumably from the same fertile imaginations that brought us the removeable bipod and metal hgs - in other words, an artificial solution to a non existant problem. __________________ "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools" Herbert Spenser "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode