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Old February 01, 2012, 14:09   #1
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I'm Bill Gross and I endorse Ron Paul for President

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Old February 01, 2012, 16:07   #2
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Jezzuz, another 10 minute video plus ad. Can't they edit these to something like 2-3 minutes?

Who is this Gross person, what is he saying and why should we care? BING, BANG, BOOM.

He's a new grandfather, dead brother-in-law, blah, blah. "I'd give Bernake a 9 out of 10 for the job he's done."

Here's my advice - when the market gets to 13,000 SELL, SELL IT ALL. Convert it to US Govt Bonds or buy land.

Do NOT buy PMs as they are at the high end of a bubble. Land - you should buy that, it's at fire sale prices.
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Old February 01, 2012, 16:07   #3
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Lets see. Other than the fact that on 1/20/2013 Ron Paul will be 83 years old, the fact his foreign policy is nothing short of a return to Isolationism and he has to be either lying or is ignorant about the possibility of abolishing the IRS and The Federal Reserve in his first days in office than Dr Paul is my kinda guy.
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LOL - Alant - he runs or RAN the biggest bond fund in the country:-) PIMCO and if you think gold is in a bubble.. well... you have not been paying attention bro.

TJ - I posted that without comment on purpose - draw your own conclusions on why THAT man would be leaning RP - (hint) - current Fed ZIRP policy and the idea of neg rate Tbills kinda kills his business along with the economy... kills capital formation AND all but the TBTF banks...

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Old February 01, 2012, 18:39   #5
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Who is this Gross person, what is he saying and why should we care? BING, BANG, BOOM.
Funny thing is, I'll bet you can find out more about his past than you can about the April Fool President's.
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Lets see. Other than the fact that on 1/20/2013 Ron Paul will be 83 years old, the fact his foreign policy is nothing short of a return to Isolationism and he has to be either lying or is ignorant about the possibility of abolishing the IRS and The Federal Reserve in his first days in office than Dr Paul is my kinda guy.
Speaking of ignorant, please link where Paul every said he would abolish the FED and the IRS in his 1st days in office.



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Old February 01, 2012, 18:52   #7
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Lets see. Other than the fact that on 1/20/2013 Ron Paul will be 83 years old...
"I know Dr. Paul--I axed one of his aides, 'How old is Ron Paul?'--He said 'Just 'tween you and me, Ron Paul is 137 years old!' "




In reality, Ron Paul will be 83 in the middle of his second term. You are not entitled to your own facts.
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"I know Dr. Paul--I axed one of his aides, 'How old is Ron Paul?'--He said 'Just 'tween you and me, Ron Paul is 137 years old!' "

In reality, Ron Paul will be 83 in the middle of his second term. You are not entitled to your own facts.
Ronald Ernest "Ron" Paul (born August 20, 1935)

But if elected, he would be almost as old taking office than Ronald Reagan was leaving office. 77 and 5 months vs 78 and 11 months

I'm sure someone is an actuary or insurance agent out there. What are his chances of making 82?

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But if elected, he would as old taking office than Ronald Reagan was leaving office. 78

I'm sure someone is an actuary or insurance agent out there. What are his chances of making 82?
My guess is that they are excellent. He's healthy, fit, happy, honest, and an avid cyclist, from what I gather.

OTOH, John Kennedy had good prospects too, if you receive my drift.
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I wish he was less cuckoo.......

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Those are pretty funny. The part where he giggles sounds just like Goldmember. Ishn't dot vierd?
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eccentric or not - he's the ONLY one that is addressing the countries most pressing problem - the ONLY one.
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eccentric or not - he's the ONLY one that is addressing the countries most pressing problem - the ONLY one.
The nation is sick....it needs a doctor....
A real one,not a kenyan witch doctor....
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Old February 01, 2012, 22:37   #14
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Sigh... bro, the PATIENT is TERMINAL! I agree the PATIENT needs a doctor but that doctor is not God - divine intervention is the only thing that will save us at this point... and he (God) need's to start with Greece. This cannot be fixed with us retaining our current paradigm - we are and have been STEALING our standard of living from the rest of the world via the petrodollar - that is coming to an end! and there is NOTHING RP or any of these other clowns can do to stop it from happening.

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Ron Paul is the "put all your eggs in one basket candidate",,, the demigod of monetary solutions.
His candidacy makes as much sense as does the policies we have followed since WWII,,, he is as the straw is to a drowning man,,, in some quarters.
The reclamation of the USA if there is to be one will stretch far beyond his life time.
In a short time the world will be made to realize the extent of it's economic chaos where no revision to some past theory of a golden currency system will solve all our dilemmas.
We are broken and now must search for our salvation using a Democratic process that is known for it's frequent failures.
I can't foretell the future but I can apply common sense deductive powers,,, because I'm older than RP and smart enough to know I as no man does have the easy answers.
We may have to look someplace besides under the street lamp for our solutions.
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Speaking of ignorant, please link where Paul every said he would abolish the FED and the IRS in his 1st days in office.

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That is another reason most rational Republicians will not vote for Paul.
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That is another reason most rational Republicians will not vote for Paul.
Because they think he will, or think he won't?

Very clever of them to vote for Mewt Gingbamney, AKA, Bush IV.
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I'd vote for Ron Paul in a heart beat, I like his ideas of eviscerating the bloated pig bureaucracy Feds and all their money sucking assholes fuckin up this Country to no end..... Yes I'm madder then hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!!

.......But I doubt he'll get the nomination, I think that is so just because of his foreign ideas policy alone, soooo......... I'll have to vote for who ever is going to get rid of Obumbler and Co.

If you vote for RP even though he's not on the ballot, you might as well vote for Obumbler, because that's what you are doing.

I wish he was less cuckoo.
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I think that one of the reasons that there is so much interest in the debates and primaries, is that it comes from the Independents and conservative Democrats.

It is they who are desperate to vote for a rational candidate who will not embarass them after they vote for him. Lron does not fit that bill, and it will clearly be either Romney or Going-rich.
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I'd vote for Ron Paul in a heart beat, I like his ideas of eviscerating the bloated pig bureaucracy Feds and all their money sucking assholes fuckin up this Country to no end..... Yes I'm madder then hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!!

.......But I doubt he'll get the nomination, I think that is so just because of his foreign ideas policy alone, soooo......... I'll have to vote for who ever is going to get rid of Obumbler and Co.

If you vote for RP even though he's not on the ballot, you might as well vote for Obumbler, because that's what you are doing.

I wish he was less cuckoo.
Not me. If being "less cuckoo" means more debt, more taxes, more wars we won't declare, can't afford and won't win, more government control and less personal privacy and liberty, then I want more cuckoo.

Who's cuckoo now?
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Not me. If being "less cuckoo" means more debt, more taxes, more wars we won't declare, can't afford and won't win, more government control and less personal privacy and liberty, then I want more cuckoo.

Who's cuckoo now?
I'm with ya Shlo, I'll take cuckoo over corruption all day, every day.

I hope RP does an independent run, he probably would do very well adding that IF he toned down his isolationist schtick a bit....he's the complete polar opposite of Obongo. Let take the Feds back to 1950 size.

GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I think that one of the reasons that there is so much interest in the debates and primaries, is that it comes from the Independents and conservative Democrats.

It is they who are desperate to vote for a rational candidate who will not embarass them after they vote for him. Lron does not fit that bill, and it will clearly be either Romney or Going-rich.
There's 3 kinds of "Independents:" Independents who lean Democrat, those have shown they will vote the party candidate.
Independents who lean Republican, same goes for them.
The Independents who lean neither way are the true Independents, but those only make up about 10% of the Independents and as for "swing voters" it's best not to really count on them.
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Ron Paul is the "put all your eggs in one basket candidate",,, the demigod of monetary solutions.
His candidacy makes as much sense as does the policies we have followed since WWII,,, he is as the straw is to a drowning man,,, in some quarters.
The reclamation of the USA if there is to be one will stretch far beyond his life time.
In a short time the world will be made to realize the extent of it's economic chaos where no revision to some past theory of a golden currency system will solve all our dilemmas.
We are broken and now must search for our salvation using a Democratic process that is known for it's frequent failures.
I can't foretell the future but I can apply common sense deductive powers,,, because I'm older than RP and smart enough to know I as no man does have the easy answers.
We may have to look someplace besides under the street lamp for our solutions.
The Blue model, which the USA has operated on the entire 20th century and even part of the 19th, will eventually shatter and fall apart. In fact we're witnessing it falling apart and Obama's job is to desperately attempt to put pieces into place to hold it together and progress to the next level.
It will take several generations to put things right again, but somethings will be beyond anyone.
Walter Russell Meade has an interesting essay on this:

http://blogs.the-american-interest.c...l-breaks-down/
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That is another reason most rational Republicians will not vote for Paul.

This post of yours is even more nonsensical that usual.


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Marc Faber now too-

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/marc-f...ident#comments
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People that really, I mean REALLY! see what is coming - and Gross and Faber obviously fall into this group - KNOW that RP is the ONLY one that is addressing the issue, and it is truly the ONLY issue that matters, because if we DON'T address and solve it we go boom and nothing else matters anyway - kinda like when I've said people are arguing about the bar tab on the Titanic after the Titanic has struck the iceberg... we've already struck the iceberg guys. Faber and Gross are of the opinion there is still time to patch the hole and pump the water out - I think they are wrong, but RP's the only choice we have either way....

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The Titanic alanogy....keep in mind,the helmsman turning a point or two port or starboard a couple miles away would have missed the iceberg altogether. The course correction only becomes more severe the nearer it came to the iceberg. We are in that exact same senario. We can crank the wheel with somebody like Ron Paul,or we can maintain track with obamahussein or newtromney,and hope they aren't asleep when we strike. It is way too late for minor course changes.
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