Food storage costs

**olgier** · January 31, 2012, 16:00

Is it me, or are MRE's and freeze dried food costs going out of sight? Not to long ago, a case of MRE's cost me $70.00. Now they are around $90.00.
#10 cans seems to be 10-20% higher than a year ago.

Gouging, or legitimate price increases?

Edited to add even water containers look to have increased by 10-15%.

rowjimmy · January 31, 2012, 16:15

I'm guessing a combination of inflation due to loose monetary policy and supply/demand. The end of the world is nigh, its 2012 dontcha know? Peeps is stokcing up.

carguym14 · February 05, 2012, 20:09

Have ya been to the grocery store????

Just about everything has gone up.The cost of fuel affects everything.

I did just get a decent buy on R134A,but other than that,tires,parts,oil,brake fluid,antifreeze,etc,are all higher than they were a couple years ago.

And of course mt taxes,insurance,and health insurance have all steadily climbed as well.But no worries,my retirement is growing at the stellar rate of less than 1 friggin percent.

I'm sure things will get better soon though.............

mosbysmen · February 05, 2012, 21:01

they have been saying the fed gov has been buying up mass quantiys of storage food .

neonnoodle · February 05, 2012, 23:51

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Originally Posted by mosbysmen

they have been saying the fed gov has been buying up mass quantiys of storage food .

Do you have a link to the storyline regarding this?

I've heard it also but have yet to see the solid details of who (Feds, States, etc) is doing the buying.
I know that there are quite a few internet rumors, as always, as to the reasoning behind the possible stockpiling of food. Just looking for the facts.

FAL freek · February 06, 2012, 07:38

Folks laughed at 411 dude for saying this a couple years back and now they're acting surprised. Go figure. I laughed too but am not surprised.

As for increased food costs verses lack of product, it's doubtful either are the factor. You go on any website whether it be news sites or gun sites and you'll see a certain freeze dried food company shamelessly advertising everywhere. Safe bet to say they're raking in the dough these past couple years. After '08 ammo was a hot commodity and people paid ridiculous amounts for it. This year it's food I guess.

carguym14 · February 06, 2012, 08:51

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Originally Posted by neonnoodle

Do you have a link to the storyline regarding this?

I've heard it also but have yet to see the solid details of who (Feds, States, etc) is doing the buying.
I know that there are quite a few internet rumors, as always, as to the reasoning behind the possible stockpiling of food. Just looking for the facts.

I don't have a link,but I remember getting e-mails from,IIRC,Emergency Essentials about being out of Mountain House cans because of US gov contracts.

I just did a quick google search and didn't find anything,and the cans are available now.All I ever heard was the gov buying it-lots of conspiracy theories,but I never heard an actual reason either.

Probably filling a mountain or mine with food and supplies for the ruling class in case something happens.Then after we are done killing each other/dying off,they can come out and start over again.........

Bawana jim · February 06, 2012, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by carguym14

I don't have a link,but I remember getting e-mails from,IIRC,Emergency Essentials about being out of Mountain House cans because of US gov contracts.

I just did a quick google search and didn't find anything,and the cans are available now.All I ever heard was the gov buying it-lots of conspiracy theories,but I never heard an actual reason either.

Probably filling a mountain or mine with food and supplies for the ruling class in case something happens.Then after we are done killing each other/dying off,they can come out and start over again.........

They better hope I never hear where it is. I run heavy equipment and haul it too so it won't take me much to get a D8 there to bury them a$$holes for good.

Cybercop · February 06, 2012, 12:11

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Originally Posted by Bawana jim

They better hope I never hear where it is. I run heavy equipment and haul it too so it won't take me much to get a D8 there to bury them a$$holes for good.

How much do you charge for a ticket to watch, this would be worth seeing!

Jim

carguym14 · February 06, 2012, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bawana jim

They better hope I never hear where it is. I run heavy equipment and haul it too so it won't take me much to get a D8 there to bury them a$$holes for good.

That's a shovel ready job I could get behind!

PARA FN FAL · February 06, 2012, 18:24

The world population went from 6 billion to 7 billion in 13 years. At that rate how long will we as a planet survive. How much food can we produce? The third world will look to the west to solve this problem by using our tax money to buy our food and then ship it over seas to people who are living 200 years in the past.

**gunplumber** · February 06, 2012, 23:00

dollar cost averaging.

Buy your normal groceries. Just a few more of the storable items. First, since it is regular consumption items, you'll better rotate it (took me years to get rid of my Y2K powdered milk). Second, costs will go up and down but you'll be paying a little at a time at an overall average price. MUCH easier than deciding one day "I'm going to buy my food storage"

**brunop** · February 06, 2012, 23:33

No rumor on gov't contracts for Mountain House. I personally know the chief engineer for package development at Oregon Freeze Dry (parent co. and largest freeze drier in the U.S. at 20M kgs/annum). He attended my MSC meeting last month and said they are running 24/7/364 (Christmas), and they can't fill all the orders. Not just the U.S. government - many governments.

If you want their food, buy it where you find it. Because it is getting worse, not better.

carguym14 · February 11, 2012, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by PARA FN FAL

The world population went from 6 billion to 7 billion in 13 years. At that rate how long will we as a planet survive. How much food can we produce? The third world will look to the west to solve this problem by using our tax money to buy our food and then ship it over seas to people who are living 200 years in the past.

Cheap plentiful oil gave us the ability to do that.And of course chemicals and genetics.

No guarantees that we don't end up the ones living "200 years in the past".

carguym14 · February 11, 2012, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunplumber

dollar cost averaging.

Buy your normal groceries. Just a few more of the storable items. First, since it is regular consumption items, you'll better rotate it (took me years to get rid of my Y2K powdered milk). Second, costs will go up and down but you'll be paying a little at a time at an overall average price. MUCH easier than deciding one day "I'm going to buy my food storage"

Excellent advice.

Expiration dates dont mean much depending on how things were stored.

Beans,rice,and tuna are cstill cheap and store easily.I use a vacuum sealer to break down large bulk purchases into eaier to work with servings (like powdered milk-I break it down into enough powder for one gallon,so when I need it,I open it up ,add water,and it's ready).

February 05, 2012, 20:09	#3
carguym14 Registered Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 13162 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 5,959	Have ya been to the grocery store???? Just about everything has gone up.The cost of fuel affects everything. I did just get a decent buy on R134A,but other than that,tires,parts,oil,brake fluid,antifreeze,etc,are all higher than they were a couple years ago. And of course mt taxes,insurance,and health insurance have all steadily climbed as well.But no worries,my retirement is growing at the stellar rate of less than 1 friggin percent. I'm sure things will get better soon though............. __________________ Anything not under government control is,by definition,out of control. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. When is it time to pick up your rifle? When your conscience cannot abide to see it unused. 1gewehr 8/3/05

February 05, 2012, 21:01	#4
mosbysmen Senior Member Moderator FALaholic #: 782 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: louisana Posts: 2,356	they have been saying the fed gov has been buying up mass quantiys of storage food . __________________ fio para bellator be the prepared warrior Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” ¯ Mark Twain "when you have integrity..... nothing else matters when you don't have integrity.... nothing else matters" Teach The Children This Simple Principle.... Bob Kelly "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- WOW--What a Ride l

February 06, 2012, 07:38	#6
FAL freek Registered FALaholic #: 10400 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: TN Posts: 7,178	Folks laughed at 411 dude for saying this a couple years back and now they're acting surprised. Go figure. I laughed too but am not surprised. As for increased food costs verses lack of product, it's doubtful either are the factor. You go on any website whether it be news sites or gun sites and you'll see a certain freeze dried food company shamelessly advertising everywhere. Safe bet to say they're raking in the dough these past couple years. After '08 ammo was a hot commodity and people paid ridiculous amounts for it. This year it's food I guess. __________________ Please put the Constitution on the teleprompter Liberals want diversity in everything except your opinion.

February 06, 2012, 23:00	#12
gunplumber Arrogant Bastard Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 96 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Surprise, AZ Posts: 15,773	dollar cost averaging. Buy your normal groceries. Just a few more of the storable items. First, since it is regular consumption items, you'll better rotate it (took me years to get rid of my Y2K powdered milk). Second, costs will go up and down but you'll be paying a little at a time at an overall average price. MUCH easier than deciding one day "I'm going to buy my food storage" __________________ T. Mark Graham Master Gunsmith Arizona Response Systems, LLC

February 06, 2012, 23:33	#13
brunop Refresh Key Masher Platinum Contributor FALaholic #: 17136 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: oregon Posts: 6,479	No rumor on gov't contracts for Mountain House. I personally know the chief engineer for package development at Oregon Freeze Dry (parent co. and largest freeze drier in the U.S. at 20M kgs/annum). He attended my MSC meeting last month and said they are running 24/7/364 (Christmas), and they can't fill all the orders. Not just the U.S. government - many governments. If you want their food, buy it where you find it. Because it is getting worse, not better. __________________ "I love you, Pluskat..." - brunop "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." - Thomas Jefferson "The constitutions of most of our states [and of the United States] assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property and freedom of the press." - Thomas Jefferson

January 31, 2012, 16:00	#1
olgier Curio & Relic Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 17951 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: maine Posts: 2,683	Food storage costs Is it me, or are MRE's and freeze dried food costs going out of sight? Not to long ago, a case of MRE's cost me $70.00. Now they are around $90.00. #10 cans seems to be 10-20% higher than a year ago. Gouging, or legitimate price increases? Edited to add even water containers look to have increased by 10-15%.

January 31, 2012, 16:15	#2
rowjimmy Registered FALaholic #: 21662 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 3,418	I'm guessing a combination of inflation due to loose monetary policy and supply/demand. The end of the world is nigh, its 2012 dontcha know? Peeps is stokcing up.

February 06, 2012, 18:24	#11
PARA FN FAL Registered FALaholic #: 17487 Join Date: May 2005 Location: las vegas Posts: 1,094	The world population went from 6 billion to 7 billion in 13 years. At that rate how long will we as a planet survive. How much food can we produce? The third world will look to the west to solve this problem by using our tax money to buy our food and then ship it over seas to people who are living 200 years in the past.

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