Suppressed FAL - Page 3

Artful · January 28, 2011, 12:55

1943

BlasterLP · February 19, 2011, 15:24

To bring this thread back to life, has any further work been done on this?

Is a custom made gas plug for suppressor use the way to go?

Venting into baffled handguards looks promising also!

4 brigada · February 20, 2011, 12:26

I have been reading this thread with great interest, and have a question on the ammo that will be used in the application. Is the solution sought for FALs using standard issue ammo or for subsonic ammo?

4 brigada · February 20, 2011, 19:38

Quote:

I don't think subsonic ammo was in play.

I'm not a rocket surgeon , but the reduced load of subsonic ammo , would certainly play a role in gas port apertures. How about expanding the volume in the gas plug by reducing the wall thickness, it would reduced the pressure/velocity of the gas, and less pressure to vent out and less speed of the gases venting is certainly quieter. My 0.50 of a cent worth since times are tough.

toyotaman · April 25, 2011, 14:49

I'm looking to order a YHM Phantom to put on my FAL in the next week or so.

Is this usually no problem to do? Are they problems with the gas system that may crop of and what are the likely fixes?

Thanks.

jaykden · April 25, 2011, 15:09

i have a YHM phantom on the way, its mainly going to be riding on the AR in 300blackout, but i am planning on adding a QD hider to the FAL too.

here is some interesting reading as far as adding a can to an FAL:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=303747

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=295677

there is some info about converting the gas plug that i'm wondering about....

jaykden · April 25, 2011, 15:18

another good thread to read:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=286840

toyotaman · April 25, 2011, 16:44

Thanks for the links.

Just a cursory glance at those threads makes me reconsider doing this at all.

I'm not a machinist and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I may be in over my head. I was hoping to just have to thread the barrel install the Phantom Flash Hider QD and be done with it.

jaykden · April 25, 2011, 17:22

hey! don't throw in the towel just yet. you *may* be ok just by opening your gas all the way, at least to start with.

maybe see if someone will convert a gas plug for you. i'm going to ask around myself since i don't weld.

it'd be simple, a standard gas plug for shooting unsuppressed, and one that you can switch out when you use the can.

seems simple enough.

**stimpsonjcat** · April 28, 2011, 15:26

The plug mod is simple and I would be glad to do it for anyone here on the files.

Liff · May 05, 2011, 16:04

DSA 16 inch barrel + Gemtech HVT QD mount = gas not open all the way, functions great.

DSA 21 inch barrel + Gemtech HVT QD mount = gas not open all the way, functions great.

For me with that can and those rifle combinations, it was not that big of an issue. I just open the gas a bit and they work great.

**tdb59** · May 08, 2011, 23:43

How about making this and the 3 threads noted inside into a 'condensed' Sticky? Lots of great detail and tech, along with emperical data[stuff what works] Thoughts?

jaykden · May 09, 2011, 01:57

since i'm, not a mod in this forum (yet), i asked someone to help out because i too, think these threads should be merged and stickied.

AndyC · May 10, 2011, 01:24

Various threads merged and then stickied as requested.

jaykden · May 10, 2011, 02:08

thanks andy!

ByrnieMac · November 29, 2012, 06:22

Suppressed FALs look so nasty

Tyris · December 26, 2012, 22:10

some gratuitous pics, long over due for this thread.

-T

**stimpsonjcat** · December 28, 2012, 14:17

**Thorack** · March 16, 2013, 22:21

OK,

If I want to get my new 17 3/8 inch para a can, whats the best and most affordable QD flash hider and can combo? Looks like this is at least about a $1000 proposition. The $1k is for a gemtech setup, is there a cheaper setup thats just as good?

Thorack

January 28, 2011, 12:55	#101
Artful Registered FALaholic #: 10191 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: arizona Posts: 2,192	1943 __________________ I'm not Fat, just Tactially Padded

April 25, 2011, 14:49	#105
toyotaman Registered FALaholic #: 53552 Join Date: May 2010 Location: FL Posts: 28	Suppressing a FAL - any problems to be aware of? I'm looking to order a YHM Phantom to put on my FAL in the next week or so. Is this usually no problem to do? Are they problems with the gas system that may crop of and what are the likely fixes? Thanks.

April 25, 2011, 15:09	#106
jaykden Moderator Resident Alaskan FALaholic #: 3800 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: sitka, ak Posts: 4,221	i have a YHM phantom on the way, its mainly going to be riding on the AR in 300blackout, but i am planning on adding a QD hider to the FAL too. here is some interesting reading as far as adding a can to an FAL: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=303747 http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=295677 there is some info about converting the gas plug that i'm wondering about.... __________________ In a family of fudds, i'm the black sheep of the family...... EBR black, that is...

April 25, 2011, 15:18	#107
jaykden Moderator Resident Alaskan FALaholic #: 3800 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: sitka, ak Posts: 4,221	another good thread to read: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...hreadid=286840 __________________ In a family of fudds, i'm the black sheep of the family...... EBR black, that is...

April 25, 2011, 17:22	#109
jaykden Moderator Resident Alaskan FALaholic #: 3800 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: sitka, ak Posts: 4,221	hey! don't throw in the towel just yet. you may be ok just by opening your gas all the way, at least to start with. maybe see if someone will convert a gas plug for you. i'm going to ask around myself since i don't weld. it'd be simple, a standard gas plug for shooting unsuppressed, and one that you can switch out when you use the can. seems simple enough. __________________ In a family of fudds, i'm the black sheep of the family...... EBR black, that is...

February 19, 2011, 15:24	#102
BlasterLP Registered FALaholic #: 2081 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas but now Iraq, wtf was I thinking?? Posts: 952	To bring this thread back to life, has any further work been done on this? Is a custom made gas plug for suppressor use the way to go? Venting into baffled handguards looks promising also!

February 20, 2011, 12:26	#103
4 brigada Registered FALaholic #: 17849 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 1,575	I have been reading this thread with great interest, and have a question on the ammo that will be used in the application. Is the solution sought for FALs using standard issue ammo or for subsonic ammo?

April 25, 2011, 16:44	#108
toyotaman Registered FALaholic #: 53552 Join Date: May 2010 Location: FL Posts: 28	Thanks for the links. Just a cursory glance at those threads makes me reconsider doing this at all. I'm not a machinist and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. I may be in over my head. I was hoping to just have to thread the barrel install the Phantom Flash Hider QD and be done with it.

April 28, 2011, 15:26	#110
stimpsonjcat Windoze free since 1-2010 Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 470 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 4,219	The plug mod is simple and I would be glad to do it for anyone here on the files. __________________ peace! Happiness=UPS+ORMD "Your 8mm FAL is like a deuce coup with a Ferrari pancake 12 under the hood and a Jaguar rear end. It just kinda transcends cool into fantasy."- USMC 0341 "The stimpgewehr is the reason Waldo is hiding."- Kotengu Cause I can still hear his voice when I put it to my shoulder, "A guns like a woman son, it's all how you hold her."

May 05, 2011, 16:04	#111
Liff Registered FALaholic #: 31156 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 11	DSA 16 inch barrel + Gemtech HVT QD mount = gas not open all the way, functions great. DSA 21 inch barrel + Gemtech HVT QD mount = gas not open all the way, functions great. For me with that can and those rifle combinations, it was not that big of an issue. I just open the gas a bit and they work great.

May 08, 2011, 23:43	#112
tdb59 Grey Haired Pict Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 63177 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: I am here Posts: 2,450	How about making this and the 3 threads noted inside into a 'condensed' Sticky? Lots of great detail and tech, along with emperical data[stuff what works] Thoughts? __________________ " Two things drive most humans in society. Being right, and looking good. "

May 09, 2011, 01:57	#113
jaykden Moderator Resident Alaskan FALaholic #: 3800 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: sitka, ak Posts: 4,221	since i'm, not a mod in this forum (yet), i asked someone to help out because i too, think these threads should be merged and stickied. __________________ In a family of fudds, i'm the black sheep of the family...... EBR black, that is...

May 10, 2011, 01:24	#114
AndyC Porridge Wog Contributor FALaholic #: 19755 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Euless, TX Posts: 11,061	Various threads merged and then stickied as requested. __________________ My Iraq Pics Preferred Travel Agent - 72 Virgins Dating Club

May 10, 2011, 02:08	#115
jaykden Moderator Resident Alaskan FALaholic #: 3800 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: sitka, ak Posts: 4,221	thanks andy! __________________ In a family of fudds, i'm the black sheep of the family...... EBR black, that is...

November 29, 2012, 06:22	#116
ByrnieMac Registered FALaholic #: 64363 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 297	Suppressed FALs look so nasty __________________ grunt (n.) [gruhnt] - term of affection for that tired, filty, thirsty, hungry, footsore, ripped-trousered, camoflauge-painted, lean, mean son of a bitch who has kept the wolf away from the door for over two hundred years

December 26, 2012, 22:10	#117
Tyris Registered FALaholic #: 30938 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 259	some gratuitous pics, long over due for this thread. -T

December 28, 2012, 14:17	#118
stimpsonjcat Windoze free since 1-2010 Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 470 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 4,219	__________________ peace! Happiness=UPS+ORMD "Your 8mm FAL is like a deuce coup with a Ferrari pancake 12 under the hood and a Jaguar rear end. It just kinda transcends cool into fantasy."- USMC 0341 "The stimpgewehr is the reason Waldo is hiding."- Kotengu Cause I can still hear his voice when I put it to my shoulder, "A guns like a woman son, it's all how you hold her."

March 16, 2013, 22:21	#119
Thorack Acquisition Corp Dude Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 748 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 5,869	OK, If I want to get my new 17 3/8 inch para a can, whats the best and most affordable QD flash hider and can combo? Looks like this is at least about a $1000 proposition. The $1k is for a gemtech setup, is there a cheaper setup thats just as good? Thorack __________________ 1. Whenever you are talking to a woman realize this person was born insane and you will never be surprised. 2. Never let Doctors cut on you unless its life or death and ALWAYS get a second opinion. Last edited by Thorack; March 16, 2013 at 22:30.

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