How many want a US made FAL mag? (Pics & videos added)

**moses** · March 30, 2010, 17:40

ORDERS are now being taken on the website @ www.mosesmag.com

Today is June 8th 2013, production run should be happening this coming week!!!!

More details later this weekend!!!
Coloradans please email me @ gjohnnygun@yahoo.com to order!
I will be giving our Colorado brothers a few days to order before I open it up to everyone since they are facing a deadline on buying regular capacity mags.

Just got back from the molders around midnite tonite and picked up the revised mags and all the revisions I had made came out great!!!! Even better than I ever expected!!!

From initial tests the mags are functioning flawlessly by hand cycling!!!!!!!! To say I am extremely happy would be a gross understatement!!!!!!!!!

VIDEO'S of test firing the magazine are on page 12, 13, 15 and 16

PICTURES ADDED ON PAGE 9.

JUST ADDED SOME PICS OF THE MOLDS BEING MADE ON PAGE 10

Just thought I would update this first post. December, 22 2010

I am doing 20 rd mags and the molds are being made now!

If all goes as planned I will be doing 25 rd mags next.

I am not posting any pics yet until I have all patents and trademarks taken care of, but these look really cool!!!!!

Below is the original post.

I am seriously considering having some FAL mags made.
They would be synthetic not steel, I would like them to be basically the equivalent of a Pmag for FAL's.

These mags would count as 3 US parts towards 922r.

I need to see if the market is large enough to warrant the start up costs for the molds and other things involved.

How many of you would buy a quality US made polymer mag and how many would you buy?

I am guessing cost would be between $20 and $25

I am probably going to do 20 and 25rd mags to begin with if this happens.

However let me know what round capacity you would prefer.

I have been getting quite a few requests for 25 rd mags.

Curious what the consensous is on how you guys would like these to look?

More like a traditional FAL mag with a few added gripping enhancements or with more ribs/designs on the entire surface.

DYNOMIKE · March 30, 2010, 18:30

Sorry can't participate in the polls (never could?)..

But I would buy 5 if they were made available....

molotov · March 30, 2010, 18:51

I'll say three, but I would probably wind up with five so that's how I voted.

Every time I get some mags they have weak springs. That costs about 20 bucks for three wolff replacements.

I'm all for a works donut straight out the package.

jcornss · March 30, 2010, 19:37

I would be in for a couple to try out. Once I found that they worked well I would probably buy more.

torquemada055 · March 30, 2010, 19:48

If and it's a BIG IF, they are as good as Pmags I would pony up the 250 +tax and s&h to get 10.
Probably need more since I have a few FALs in the house.

**aezcur** · March 30, 2010, 21:17

Hi Moses,
Great initiative! I already have two FALs

so I will need 10 (ten) mags to start

GOVT1911 · March 30, 2010, 21:48

I'd buy a couple (2-3) to begin with, maybe more if I really liked them.

Now, I'd really like to see this happen, but I can't in good concience say "I'll buy 10!!!!!" just to get it there. LOL I would definately buy at least 2 at that price point, just to check'em out.

biggun · March 30, 2010, 22:29

I thought DSA was in the process of bringing new mags to market???????

**aezcur** · March 30, 2010, 22:41

Quote:

Originally posted by biggun
I thought DSA was in the process of bringing new mags to market???????

Yeah....I heard that EONS ago....there is no serious commitment to a timeline...no definitive date on WHEN are they going to be available.

**moses** · March 30, 2010, 23:18

Yes DSA is and has been working on steel FAL mags.

If I do this I am gonna do it right, I am not gonna settle for cheap feeling unreliable mags.
I will be striving for the equivilant of Pmag quality for the FAL!

ThunderGod · March 31, 2010, 00:45

What about the beak and notch? Metal inserts? If not, those are primary "fail" points, due to shock or wear.

Czechsix · March 31, 2010, 01:53

If they work out, I'd easily be in for ten, and probably more.

What I'd really like to see is a lightweight 30 rounder though......

**moses** · March 31, 2010, 01:54

Probably won't have metal inserts but with all the advances in polymers now I don't think they will be needed.

If this happens the mags will have a lifetime warranty to the original owner.

STGThndr · March 31, 2010, 02:35

Ten for me if they look good... or ten more of the euro's, whichever.

WarriorPoet · March 31, 2010, 07:30

I polled for 5...........but would probably end up getting 10 in the long run.

If the mags are as good as your FAL builds.......we'll have nothin' to worry about

Now the race is ON. Who can produce U.S. made FAL mags first? DSA - which is trouble-shooting their product - or Moses' vaporware uber-mags (VUMs, for short)

(am secretly rootin' for Moses, of course!)

-WP

**MAINER** · March 31, 2010, 10:41

Can't vote, never could, donno why?

Anyway, I'd order 5.
I like my PMAGS and 3 US parts would let me gear up the L1A1's with origional parts. "Cept for the metric receivers o'course.

A "window" would be nice, but not absolutely necessary.

mashed68 · March 31, 2010, 11:19

I voted two. I'll end up buying more, but I can't spend more then $50 on mags at any one time, just dosen't feel right to me when I need so much ammo still.

hagar · March 31, 2010, 13:05

Maybe you can outsource it to FNH! They may be looking for extra work pretty soon...

dakdak · March 31, 2010, 13:23

I would buy 10 possibly 20 if they have the quality you describe.

MBrady · March 31, 2010, 14:57

If they are PMAG quality, I'll be down for 8, plus the mandatory back ups

!

**moses** · March 31, 2010, 15:41

I have a meeting with the injection moulding company next week!

Hagar what's up with FNH?

**embatp** · March 31, 2010, 17:53

johnny...

i put down for five.....would these have a "pmag" type look or more of a "thermold" look? how many do you need to get it going? what else is in the works?

terry

hagar · March 31, 2010, 19:16

Quote:

Originally posted by moses
I have a meeting with the injection moulding company next week!

Hagar what's up with FNH?

If I tell you, somebody will come and shoot me...

molotov · March 31, 2010, 19:41

Quote:

I have a meeting with the injection moulding company next week!

If all goes well, how soon could we be able to buy some?

I need a few more mags and if this could happen in the next month or two I will hold off until they became available.

**moses** · March 31, 2010, 20:05

I'll know more after I meet with them, but I would think if there are no major problems encountered less than 2 months will be doable.
I will be torture testing them too so that will also take some time.

I am still working on the design of the exterior, while I would like to have a Pmag type look I think it will have to be different enough not to infringe on any patents.
I think the Thermold mags were a little plain looking and also too smooth not offering enough grip. I know it will not have the ridge like the thermolds that would interfere with the outside bottom of the magwell preventing the mag from seating.

I definitely plan on having an exterior with some ridges to aid in gripping the mag when inserting and taking it out. I also plan on the design being pleasing to the eye.

After talking to the injection molding company today and getting a ballpark figure I plan on doing this, so barring any unforeseen circumstances this will happen.

genmeagher · March 31, 2010, 21:36

Sorry mate, I'm in a "ban" state; NY didn't sunset...

I'll stick to the pre-94 vets out there...

JohnnyReb · March 31, 2010, 22:02

I'd buy 5. What color? Black? Smoke? Amber?

ThunderGod · March 31, 2010, 22:17

Well, unless some kind of ridges are needed for structural reinforcement, you have a lot of grip-enhancing options. You could go with something as simple as smooth, checkered, ribbed or a 'pebble-grain' EG-style, with simple, round bumps. Better yet, Morse code dots&dashes, spelling-out something relevant. Or, Or, ...

Artful · March 31, 2010, 23:24

I'd buy one to try and support ya.

yarro · April 01, 2010, 01:03

If I mag was as good as a PMAG, hell yes. If you offered a 25rd one, double hell yes.

-yarro

**moses** · April 01, 2010, 01:20

Probably just offer Black to start and maybe do other colors later.
I'll know more after I talk with the injection moulders about color options.

I would love to make 25 rd and 30 rd mags too but the molds are really expensive and therefore I am only doing 20 rd mags to start. If all goes well and there is enough demand I would definitely like to do the 25 and 30 rd mags later.

Super B · April 01, 2010, 01:50

Two 20 rounders for me. Count as 3 US parts, yes?

**brunop** · April 01, 2010, 03:13

I voted 10 because that was the most. I'd probably end up with 30 or 40 of them over a year's time. I can name ten other purchasers of 5 to 10 each who aren't on this board.

I really like PMags, and I've always thought that this would be super cool. I'm a supporter if they are quality.

pmf · April 01, 2010, 09:22

You need a buy zero option. What's wrong with the metal surplus mags? Are they drying up? I bought so many years ago that I don't pay attention to them anymore.

If you do make them, it might be interesting if they came in higher capacity -- like 25-round or 30-round. I know there are some 30-round mags out there, but they're kind of rare (I have a few). I'd buy some new 30-rounders, but not 20-rounders.

Scott V2 · April 01, 2010, 09:32

Quote:

Originally posted by pmf
You need a buy zero option. What's wrong with the metal surplus mags? Are they drying up? I bought so many years ago that I don't pay attention to them anymore.

If you do make them, it might be interesting if they came in higher capacity -- like 25-round or 30-round. I know there are some 30-round mags out there, but they're kind of rare (I have a few). I'd buy some new 30-rounders, but not 20-rounders.

I would buy them just to put the original HTS sets back in. US made HTS just do not function correctly with 100% reliability.

pmf · April 01, 2010, 14:21

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott V2

I would buy them just to put the original HTS sets back in. US made HTS just do not function correctly with 100% reliability.

Hmmmm, that's an interesting option. I didn't think about the U.S. made parts issue. It is kind of a shame throwing perfectly good gas pistons and H/T/S sets out to be replaced with expensive parts that aren't typically as good.

Would a mag count as three parts -- follower, body, floorplate? I know a floorplate counts as one.

mashed68 · April 01, 2010, 15:11

Quote:

Originally posted by pmf
Would a mag count as three parts -- follower, body, floorplate?

Yup. Its a big deal for people like me with imbel receivers which dosen't help with the US parts count. I'd like to be able to use as many stock parts as I can where it counts, and mags are not one of the "counts" spots

EMSflyer · April 01, 2010, 15:26

To set your product apart from the rest of the surplus FAL mags you should consider starting out with a 25 round polymer FAL mag.

Try to stay with a "classic" appearance so it looks correct on an FAL and not too "space age", if you know what I mean.

I always thought the Thermold mags looked terrible.

My 2 cents.

Good luck,

EMSflyer

[486] · April 01, 2010, 16:25

I'd go with 30 rounders as they are somewhat more uncommon, and the weight savings would be nice.

Maybe make them like the saiga 12 mags that have ribs for the follower all along the sides so you can cut them down to whatever size you want. Then you'll only have to make 30rd molds, save money there.

ETA: Can't say for sure that I'd buy any, as I'm perpetually broke these days...

DYNOMIKE · April 01, 2010, 17:27

I'm good with the 20's, no practical use for a 30 in most instances although it is fun in a 3-Gun match.. I have perfectly good original 30's if/when the mood strikes me..

The U.S. parts things is a Big one, I have yet to get a US H/T/S set that worked as well as an original and would like to put the Surplus parts BACK in my rifles..

**longhair51** · April 01, 2010, 18:02

If they are PMAG quality, I would be interested in ten...maybe more after I tested/proved them out.

**Hoot G** · April 01, 2010, 19:27

I voted 5, but I'd probably buy more.

Inch, metric, or both? It seems (to my uneducated manufacturing sense) that it might be fairly easy to figure a way to use the same molds, but have a one-time install of the beak or lip.

I'd be more interested in 25 round mags. DSA will get their 20s right one day, and that might be sooner rather than later. Kel-tec is probably working on something for their bullpup. One of the AR guys is supposed to have 20 rd FAL mags soon for their AR10ish thingee.

I like the ribs on the P mags. Much more secure than checkering, or stippling, or anything else I can think of. But, I'm no expert, so YMMV.

Just some random thoughts. Feel free to use or discard at will. No consulting fee required.

MistWolf · April 01, 2010, 21:20

Keep in mind the Rock river Arms LAR-8 was designed to take FAL mags. There will be a demand there. Myself, I'd be interested in 25 & 30 round magazines at this time

Kyrottimus · April 01, 2010, 22:26

I'm interested in at least 5...

20's would be nice but 25's would really kick ass IMO. 30's would be a nice addition too if possible.

littlehoot · April 02, 2010, 10:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott V2

I would buy them just to put the original HTS sets back in. US made HTS just do not function correctly with 100% reliability.

what he said.

i'd be in for a few, quantity dependent on price

Aifwikir · April 02, 2010, 12:33

Hey Moses! Have you checked out Falcon Springs yet?

Aif

rangedog · April 02, 2010, 14:24

Iv'e got a ton of 20 rd. mags . But I would buy 10 (25 rd) Pmag quality USA mags

**moses** · April 02, 2010, 15:03

Let me know which mags you would prefer, 20 rd, 25 rd or 30 rd.

And to the people who have asked yes these mags would count as 3 US parts towards 922r.

Kyrottimus · April 02, 2010, 15:05

Quote:

Originally posted by moses
Let me know which mags you would prefer, 20 rd, 25 rd or 30 rd.

And to the people who have asked yes these mags would count as 3 US parts towards 922r.

I would say as there are fewest 25rd mags available that a 25rd FAL mag would be the largest niche to fill. Second priority would be 30rd followed by 20rd.

For me, 25rd mags would be most desirable. FWIW.

**kfranz** · April 02, 2010, 15:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott V2

I would buy them just to put the original HTS sets back in. US made HTS just do not function correctly with 100% reliability.

Yep. I've got more surplus mags than I care to admit, but I'd still be in for five for this reason. I guess 25 rds, just to differentiate them from the 20's and 30's I've already got.

View Poll Results: How many polymer US made FAL mags would you buy?
I would buy one	31	4.44%
I would buy two	122	17.48%
I would buy five	300	42.98%
I would buy ten	245	35.10%
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March 30, 2010, 17:40	#1
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,947	How many want a US made FAL mag? (Pics & videos added) ORDERS are now being taken on the website @ www.mosesmag.com Today is June 8th 2013, production run should be happening this coming week!!!! More details later this weekend!!! Coloradans please email me @ gjohnnygun@yahoo.com to order! I will be giving our Colorado brothers a few days to order before I open it up to everyone since they are facing a deadline on buying regular capacity mags. Just got back from the molders around midnite tonite and picked up the revised mags and all the revisions I had made came out great!!!! Even better than I ever expected!!! From initial tests the mags are functioning flawlessly by hand cycling!!!!!!!! To say I am extremely happy would be a gross understatement!!!!!!!!! VIDEO'S of test firing the magazine are on page 12, 13, 15 and 16 PICTURES ADDED ON PAGE 9. JUST ADDED SOME PICS OF THE MOLDS BEING MADE ON PAGE 10 Just thought I would update this first post. December, 22 2010 I am doing 20 rd mags and the molds are being made now! If all goes as planned I will be doing 25 rd mags next. I am not posting any pics yet until I have all patents and trademarks taken care of, but these look really cool!!!!! Below is the original post. I am seriously considering having some FAL mags made. They would be synthetic not steel, I would like them to be basically the equivalent of a Pmag for FAL's. These mags would count as 3 US parts towards 922r. I need to see if the market is large enough to warrant the start up costs for the molds and other things involved. How many of you would buy a quality US made polymer mag and how many would you buy? I am guessing cost would be between $20 and $25 I am probably going to do 20 and 25rd mags to begin with if this happens. However let me know what round capacity you would prefer. I have been getting quite a few requests for 25 rd mags. Curious what the consensous is on how you guys would like these to look? More like a traditional FAL mag with a few added gripping enhancements or with more ribs/designs on the entire surface. __________________ . My PM box is usually full although I try to keep it less than full, it's a never ending battle so please email me if at all possible. Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2016, April 9th, June 11th, Sept. 10th & Nov. 12th Best Drop 8 time "8.47" 8 for 8 FAL/STG 7.62X51 Last edited by moses; September 19, 2013 at 18:25.

March 30, 2010, 18:30	#2
DYNOMIKE Registered FALaholic #: 11982 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 16,402	Sorry can't participate in the polls (never could?).. But I would buy 5 if they were made available.... __________________ "If your Gonna DIE, DIE Standing UP"!! The WOLVERINES.......

March 30, 2010, 19:48	#5
torquemada055 Registered FALaholic #: 15170 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: 5thBt. 31st FF Posts: 3,642	If and it's a BIG IF, they are as good as Pmags I would pony up the 250 +tax and s&h to get 10. Probably need more since I have a few FALs in the house. __________________ NEVER forget April 19, 1775, and hell NO the bridge aint for sale!! I know, let's abolish the Fed, get out of the u.n. and kick them out of the country, close our borders and deport all illegals, bring every military member back home and close all foreign military bases. Cut ALL tax rates personal and business to 11%, abolish all unconstitutional federal agencies. It'll hurt but it would help us as a country.

March 30, 2010, 21:17	#6
aezcur El Argentino Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 49232 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: WA, USA Posts: 3,067	Hi Moses, Great initiative! I already have two FALs so I will need 10 (ten) mags to start __________________ aezcur Mi Buenos Aires querido........

March 30, 2010, 18:51	#3
molotov Banned (Temp) FALaholic #: 35685 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: St. Petersburg FL Posts: 1,525	I'll say three, but I would probably wind up with five so that's how I voted. Every time I get some mags they have weak springs. That costs about 20 bucks for three wolff replacements. I'm all for a works donut straight out the package.

March 30, 2010, 19:37	#4
jcornss Registered FALaholic #: 37954 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 499	I would be in for a couple to try out. Once I found that they worked well I would probably buy more.

March 30, 2010, 21:48	#7
GOVT1911 Registered FALaholic #: 9433 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raeford, NC Posts: 3,892	I'd buy a couple (2-3) to begin with, maybe more if I really liked them. Now, I'd really like to see this happen, but I can't in good concience say "I'll buy 10!!!!!" just to get it there. LOL I would definately buy at least 2 at that price point, just to check'em out. __________________ I don't make policy, I just enforce the last 300 Meters of it.

March 30, 2010, 22:29	#8
biggun Registered FALaholic #: 3178 Join Date: May 2001 Location: ky Posts: 638	I thought DSA was in the process of bringing new mags to market??????? __________________ "Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes." Cat killer extraordinar!!!!!

March 30, 2010, 23:18	#10
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,947	Yes DSA is and has been working on steel FAL mags. If I do this I am gonna do it right, I am not gonna settle for cheap feeling unreliable mags. I will be striving for the equivilant of Pmag quality for the FAL! __________________ . My PM box is usually full although I try to keep it less than full, it's a never ending battle so please email me if at all possible. Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2016, April 9th, June 11th, Sept. 10th & Nov. 12th Best Drop 8 time "8.47" 8 for 8 FAL/STG 7.62X51

March 31, 2010, 00:45	#11
ThunderGod Banned FALaholic #: 7196 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,798	What about the beak and notch? Metal inserts? If not, those are primary "fail" points, due to shock or wear.

March 31, 2010, 01:53	#12
Czechsix Registered FALaholic #: 17293 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kookifornia Posts: 1,035	If they work out, I'd easily be in for ten, and probably more. What I'd really like to see is a lightweight 30 rounder though......

March 31, 2010, 01:54	#13
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,947	Probably won't have metal inserts but with all the advances in polymers now I don't think they will be needed. If this happens the mags will have a lifetime warranty to the original owner. __________________ . My PM box is usually full although I try to keep it less than full, it's a never ending battle so please email me if at all possible. Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2016, April 9th, June 11th, Sept. 10th & Nov. 12th Best Drop 8 time "8.47" 8 for 8 FAL/STG 7.62X51

March 31, 2010, 02:35	#14
STGThndr Registered FALaholic #: 14583 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern Colorado mtns and desert Posts: 3,716	Ten for me if they look good... or ten more of the euro's, whichever. __________________ Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. W.B Yeats

March 31, 2010, 07:30	#15
WarriorPoet Registered FALaholic #: 10664 Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,655	I polled for 5...........but would probably end up getting 10 in the long run. If the mags are as good as your FAL builds.......we'll have nothin' to worry about Now the race is ON. Who can produce U.S. made FAL mags first? DSA - which is trouble-shooting their product - or Moses' vaporware uber-mags (VUMs, for short) (am secretly rootin' for Moses, of course!) -WP __________________ The sword that destroys evil is the life-giving sword. - Samurai proverb Best Drop Eight time - 7.93 seconds (FAL/7.62x51)

March 31, 2010, 10:41	#16
MAINER Old Salt Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 18465 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 9,476	Can't vote, never could, donno why? Anyway, I'd order 5. I like my PMAGS and 3 US parts would let me gear up the L1A1's with origional parts. "Cept for the metric receivers o'course. A "window" would be nice, but not absolutely necessary. __________________ Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.

March 31, 2010, 11:19	#17
mashed68 Registered FALaholic #: 15826 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 481	I voted two. I'll end up buying more, but I can't spend more then $50 on mags at any one time, just dosen't feel right to me when I need so much ammo still. __________________ Disclaimer: My spelling sucks

March 31, 2010, 13:05	#18
hagar Registered FALaholic #: 228 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 9,577	Maybe you can outsource it to FNH! They may be looking for extra work pretty soon...

March 31, 2010, 13:23	#19
dakdak Registered FALaholic #: 13083 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: U.S. East Coast Posts: 627	10 I would buy 10 possibly 20 if they have the quality you describe.

March 31, 2010, 14:57	#20
MBrady Registered FALaholic #: 13133 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 62	If they are PMAG quality, I'll be down for 8, plus the mandatory back ups ! __________________

March 31, 2010, 15:41	#21
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,947	I have a meeting with the injection moulding company next week! Hagar what's up with FNH? __________________ . My PM box is usually full although I try to keep it less than full, it's a never ending battle so please email me if at all possible. Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2016, April 9th, June 11th, Sept. 10th & Nov. 12th Best Drop 8 time "8.47" 8 for 8 FAL/STG 7.62X51

March 31, 2010, 17:53	#22
embatp What? Me AR? Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 39856 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Behind enemy lines... Posts: 4,160	johnny... i put down for five.....would these have a "pmag" type look or more of a "thermold" look? how many do you need to get it going? what else is in the works? terry

March 31, 2010, 20:05	#25
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,947	I'll know more after I meet with them, but I would think if there are no major problems encountered less than 2 months will be doable. I will be torture testing them too so that will also take some time. I am still working on the design of the exterior, while I would like to have a Pmag type look I think it will have to be different enough not to infringe on any patents. I think the Thermold mags were a little plain looking and also too smooth not offering enough grip. I know it will not have the ridge like the thermolds that would interfere with the outside bottom of the magwell preventing the mag from seating. I definitely plan on having an exterior with some ridges to aid in gripping the mag when inserting and taking it out. I also plan on the design being pleasing to the eye. After talking to the injection molding company today and getting a ballpark figure I plan on doing this, so barring any unforeseen circumstances this will happen. __________________ . My PM box is usually full although I try to keep it less than full, it's a never ending battle so please email me if at all possible. Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2016, April 9th, June 11th, Sept. 10th & Nov. 12th Best Drop 8 time "8.47" 8 for 8 FAL/STG 7.62X51

March 31, 2010, 21:36	#26
genmeagher Registered FALaholic #: 19947 Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Yorkistan Posts: 785	Sorry mate, I'm in a "ban" state; NY didn't sunset... I'll stick to the pre-94 vets out there...

March 31, 2010, 22:02	#27
JohnnyReb Registered FALaholic #: 12093 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NC Posts: 3,650	I'd buy 5. What color? Black? Smoke? Amber? __________________ One Bank to rule them all, one Bank to find them, one Bank to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

March 31, 2010, 22:17	#28
ThunderGod Banned FALaholic #: 7196 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,798	Well, unless some kind of ridges are needed for structural reinforcement, you have a lot of grip-enhancing options. You could go with something as simple as smooth, checkered, ribbed or a 'pebble-grain' EG-style, with simple, round bumps. Better yet, Morse code dots&dashes, spelling-out something relevant. Or, Or, ...

March 31, 2010, 23:24	#29
Artful Registered FALaholic #: 10191 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: arizona Posts: 3,463	I'd buy one to try and support ya. __________________ I'm not Fat, just Tactially Padded

April 01, 2010, 01:03	#30
yarro Registered FALaholic #: 28278 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 905	If I mag was as good as a PMAG, hell yes. If you offered a 25rd one, double hell yes. -yarro __________________ Most people will give up freedoms for the perception of safety until they are no longer free or safe.

April 01, 2010, 01:20	#31
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,947	Probably just offer Black to start and maybe do other colors later. I'll know more after I talk with the injection moulders about color options. I would love to make 25 rd and 30 rd mags too but the molds are really expensive and therefore I am only doing 20 rd mags to start. If all goes well and there is enough demand I would definitely like to do the 25 and 30 rd mags later. __________________ . My PM box is usually full although I try to keep it less than full, it's a never ending battle so please email me if at all possible. Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2016, April 9th, June 11th, Sept. 10th & Nov. 12th Best Drop 8 time "8.47" 8 for 8 FAL/STG 7.62X51

April 01, 2010, 01:50	#32
Super B Registered FALaholic #: 404 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tallahassee, FL,, USA Posts: 1,985	Two 20 rounders for me. Count as 3 US parts, yes? __________________ There's nothing more dangerous than a colossal, bankrupt, and well-armed government---Porter Stansberry

April 01, 2010, 03:13	#33
brunop Refresh Key Masher Gold Contributor FALaholic #: 17136 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 12,777	I voted 10 because that was the most. I'd probably end up with 30 or 40 of them over a year's time. I can name ten other purchasers of 5 to 10 each who aren't on this board. I really like PMags, and I've always thought that this would be super cool. I'm a supporter if they are quality. __________________ "How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: what would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if during periods of mass arrests people had simply not sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, ham- mers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. . . . The Organs [police] would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers . . . and notwithstanding all of Stalin‘s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt." - A. Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago

April 01, 2010, 09:22	#34
pmf Registered FALaholic #: 2923 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,875	You need a buy zero option. What's wrong with the metal surplus mags? Are they drying up? I bought so many years ago that I don't pay attention to them anymore. If you do make them, it might be interesting if they came in higher capacity -- like 25-round or 30-round. I know there are some 30-round mags out there, but they're kind of rare (I have a few). I'd buy some new 30-rounders, but not 20-rounders.

April 01, 2010, 15:26	#38
EMSflyer Registered FALaholic #: 2936 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Texas Posts: 875	To set your product apart from the rest of the surplus FAL mags you should consider starting out with a 25 round polymer FAL mag. Try to stay with a "classic" appearance so it looks correct on an FAL and not too "space age", if you know what I mean. I always thought the Thermold mags looked terrible. My 2 cents. Good luck, EMSflyer

April 01, 2010, 16:25	#39
[486] Registered FALaholic #: 34507 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. paul, MN Posts: 1,216	I'd go with 30 rounders as they are somewhat more uncommon, and the weight savings would be nice. Maybe make them like the saiga 12 mags that have ribs for the follower all along the sides so you can cut them down to whatever size you want. Then you'll only have to make 30rd molds, save money there. ETA: Can't say for sure that I'd buy any, as I'm perpetually broke these days... __________________ "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government -- lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." - Patrick Henry

April 01, 2010, 17:27	#40
DYNOMIKE Registered FALaholic #: 11982 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 16,402	I'm good with the 20's, no practical use for a 30 in most instances although it is fun in a 3-Gun match.. I have perfectly good original 30's if/when the mood strikes me.. The U.S. parts things is a Big one, I have yet to get a US H/T/S set that worked as well as an original and would like to put the Surplus parts BACK in my rifles.. __________________ "If your Gonna DIE, DIE Standing UP"!! The WOLVERINES.......