heavy barrel ?

hobtag · January 17, 2003, 04:00

ok I have almost completed my first builds ...and now I read about a heavy barrel ..

I have two heavy barrels ..one is isrealy and the other has belgium proofs on it ,,is this like a special barrel or rare?

what is a falo barrel ?

just trying to get some knowlege before I get out my trusty dremel and hack it off......

Thanks

Ken

DINO212 · January 17, 2003, 04:59

DO NOT CUT A GOOD HEAVY BARREL!!!! If you choose not to use them sell them and buy std. barrels. I saw a belgian HB on ebay, I bid $70.00, a little high,Sarco say's they had some for $50.00 but getting anything from them is nearly impossible. The one on ebay? Sold for around $225.00! There is another one on there now. Sell, don't cut! Do a search for fn/fal on ebay and look at what the others sell for.

L/FN · January 18, 2003, 00:08

Your wrong Dino, some guy paid $ 261.00 for a used, HB with pitting in the bore!!

Here's the scoop on Belgian HB's.

The one that was sold and the one that is currently for auction are 99.99% most likely made for the Israeli issue HB FAL.
Belgium made the first Israeli FAL's. Israel eventually bought the rights to build and took over their own FAL production.

These early Belg HB's were not chome lined and most of the rifles heavily used and the bores shot out. I had a number of these barrels that I sawed in half at the gas port to see if the rear half was even worth using for a 12" shorty!!

If you can find a Belg HB with a nice bore that's great.
A Belg HB built for Israel will have to grooves cut across the top of the barrel where the gas block goes. The front cut is where the gas block retaining pin goes and the rear cut is where the handguard screw goes across.

A true Belg FALO barrel ( Belg HB made for Belg and other countries) will NOT have a rear slot for the handguard screw.
There will also be some flats on the sides of the barrel where the keeper clip for the front of the short handguards engages.

I'm afraid the first buyer didn't buy what he thought he was getting????

Larry

DINO212 · January 18, 2003, 07:15

Jesus Hitler Christ! Didnt see the end of the auction! Poor guy!!! My $70.00 bid was high but I thought ,"what the hell!" Great place to get rid of junk though!

hobtag · January 26, 2003, 04:22

Thanks L/FN

I guess what i have then is a true FALO barrel.

didn't really know the difference ...

but when i lay the two together I see the difference one is as you discribed and the other is the izzy thing .

but looking at the bores ,, these look as if they have never been fired as the rifling is sharp and crisp all the way down ...

guess I won't cut it off then ...

where do i find a muzzle break for this thing then ?

Thanks
Ken

**fal fiend** · January 26, 2003, 11:30

l/fn..i have a early belgain/izzy h/b,,looks like it has alot strong rifling,,never notice about that cut on the gas block,,i;ll get my other izzy h.b out & look at its gas block,,thanks for the info

January 17, 2003, 04:00	#1
hobtag Registered FALaholic #: 8537 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13	heavy barrel ? ok I have almost completed my first builds ...and now I read about a heavy barrel .. I have two heavy barrels ..one is isrealy and the other has belgium proofs on it ,,is this like a special barrel or rare? what is a falo barrel ? just trying to get some knowlege before I get out my trusty dremel and hack it off...... Thanks Ken

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January 17, 2003, 04:59	#2
DINO212 Registered FALaholic #: 7068 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 201	DO NOT CUT A GOOD HEAVY BARREL!!!! If you choose not to use them sell them and buy std. barrels. I saw a belgian HB on ebay, I bid $70.00, a little high,Sarco say's they had some for $50.00 but getting anything from them is nearly impossible. The one on ebay? Sold for around $225.00! There is another one on there now. Sell, don't cut! Do a search for fn/fal on ebay and look at what the others sell for.

January 18, 2003, 00:08	#3
L/FN Registered FALaholic #: 139 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Kansas. Just Dust in the Wind Posts: 3,351	Your wrong Dino, some guy paid $ 261.00 for a used, HB with pitting in the bore!! Here's the scoop on Belgian HB's. The one that was sold and the one that is currently for auction are 99.99% most likely made for the Israeli issue HB FAL. Belgium made the first Israeli FAL's. Israel eventually bought the rights to build and took over their own FAL production. These early Belg HB's were not chome lined and most of the rifles heavily used and the bores shot out. I had a number of these barrels that I sawed in half at the gas port to see if the rear half was even worth using for a 12" shorty!! If you can find a Belg HB with a nice bore that's great. A Belg HB built for Israel will have to grooves cut across the top of the barrel where the gas block goes. The front cut is where the gas block retaining pin goes and the rear cut is where the handguard screw goes across. A true Belg FALO barrel ( Belg HB made for Belg and other countries) will NOT have a rear slot for the handguard screw. There will also be some flats on the sides of the barrel where the keeper clip for the front of the short handguards engages. I'm afraid the first buyer didn't buy what he thought he was getting???? Larry

January 18, 2003, 07:15	#4
DINO212 Registered FALaholic #: 7068 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 201	Jesus Hitler Christ! Didnt see the end of the auction! Poor guy!!! My $70.00 bid was high but I thought ,"what the hell!" Great place to get rid of junk though!

January 26, 2003, 04:22	#5
hobtag Registered FALaholic #: 8537 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13	Thanks L/FN I guess what i have then is a true FALO barrel. didn't really know the difference ... but when i lay the two together I see the difference one is as you discribed and the other is the izzy thing . but looking at the bores ,, these look as if they have never been fired as the rifling is sharp and crisp all the way down ... guess I won't cut it off then ... where do i find a muzzle break for this thing then ? Thanks Ken

January 26, 2003, 11:30	#6
fal fiend Curio & Relic Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 7091 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Indiana USA Posts: 2,267	l/fn..i have a early belgain/izzy h/b,,looks like it has alot strong rifling,,never notice about that cut on the gas block,,i;ll get my other izzy h.b out & look at its gas block,,thanks for the info