Personal favorite milsurp bolt gun?

Slater · March 10, 2002, 08:59

What's yer own bestest milsurp? That unissued M-48 or that beat-to-crap old SMLE?
I like my old Mosin-Nagant M91/30. Made in 1943, refurbed somewhere along the way, and surprisingly accurate for an old dinosaur.

heartland41 · March 10, 2002, 09:30

FR-8 Mauser. I got it as one of the u-fixems from century. After replacing the stock and handguard, it looks like it came straight from the arsenal.

medicmike · March 10, 2002, 09:39

Have a sporterized 03a3 that I just love, great shooting rifle.

redneck whitesox PBR · March 10, 2002, 09:43

Right now my K31 is closest to my heart.

bushka · March 10, 2002, 09:51

what redneck said!!

charles isaac · March 10, 2002, 09:52

US Krag Model 1898!

One of the finest made bolt actions that you will ever see.

Bolts work smooth as glass and very accurate.

And most people don't know what the hell it is when they see it. Good to have something different at the range.

gates · March 10, 2002, 10:27

persian mauser! i have a unfired and one that i refinished-they are GREAT rifles - it will shoot 1 moa with port.198 grainers. my second would be the k31 and a close third is my vkt m-39.

boys we live in GREAT milsurp times! i like my black rifles but these old bolt guns "speak" to me.

aj

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Sumoj275 · March 10, 2002, 11:25

Enfield family

JukkaR · March 10, 2002, 12:03

Bolt gun... ...Finnish m39

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masman · March 10, 2002, 12:51

its a tossup between my yugo refurbed k-98 and my 91/30pu sniper.

CaptainCandy · March 10, 2002, 13:24

it's a toss up between my m39 or MKIII*
Chris

'TUDE · March 10, 2002, 13:25

Favorite milsurp bolt gun?
It's hard but I would have to say one of my VZ-24's. It looks beat to death, and has definitely seen battle. There is still a 1/4 inch hunk of shrapnel imbedded in the butt, initials carved in the floorplate, and 4 tally marks cut into the trigger guard.

Rifles with character are my favorite. Something that YOU KNOW has a long story behind its history is what appeals more to me. I have some unissued examples of various types, but they don't have the same "feel" to them as the battle worn examples do.

**idsubgun** · March 10, 2002, 13:32

One of my two m94/14 Swede calvary carbines, a 1895 and a 1907.
Love that 6.5x55 cartridge.

Fallschirmjäger · March 10, 2002, 13:56

Enfield No.4 Mk2, hands down.

But, if I could have found a source for ammo, I might have bought a beautiful Steyr M95 (full length) at the local gun store, which might have become the favorite.

Batman · March 10, 2002, 14:03

I have a persian mauser and it's a tack driver. I love to shoot it when the guy next to me is shooting a Wheatherby and my groups are smaller!! Heheheheh.

There is only about a grand difference in our set-up!

Kevin · March 10, 2002, 15:38

M-96 Swede. I've got one that's 99% and it's a tack driver. Wonderful quality.

Cheers.

FALderal · March 10, 2002, 16:13

Enfield #4 mk1 and then there's the sort of beat up but good shooter #5 Jungle carbine.

**moses** · March 10, 2002, 16:26

Enfield #4 mk 1 & 2 both tack drivers and you can't beat the 10 rd mag!and actions smooth as silk! my 03a3's I love also just as accurate but only 5 rds at a time!

Regal Beagal · March 10, 2002, 16:28

First place is a toss up between my VZ24 and my unissued M48A. The M48A is a tack driver due to the new barrel but the VZ24 is in more milsurp condition/character. For some reason the M48A's recoil is quite light compared to my other milsurp bolt guns. Second would be my M1917 Eddystone. It's only drawbacks compared to the mausers is the cock on close and the recoil of the 30-06 and the barrel is in poor shape but it still looks cool. Third would be my VKT M39. Not a show stopper but it's still "very" accurate. It's main draw back is the felt recoil of the 7.62x54. Talk about BRUTAL...! RB

marko16 · March 10, 2002, 16:33

Any of my K98's, the process, inspections, and attention to detail. Very robust design.

**XMAN** · March 10, 2002, 18:29

Finn M39 with out a doubt.Will most likely purchase a M44 and will get back with you.

bookertbab · March 10, 2002, 18:33

My Swede M96b, it was made in 1903 and it is so sweet. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do for its 100th birthday, I'll probably just shoot it.

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skfullgun · March 10, 2002, 18:33

A Polish M-44 I have affectionately dubbed "Thumper". If you've ever fired one, you know why!!!

sledgehammer · March 10, 2002, 19:02

Anything German or Swiss, especially the K31.

law4fun · March 10, 2002, 19:07

Toss up between a Finn M39 or a Finn refurb Ruskie 91/30. Both have actions as smooth as glass and virtually no recoil with the 54r cartridge.

**LAFAL** · March 10, 2002, 19:20

1903A3- I started out getting a bubbaized sproter and it's being restored. Got the last pieces blued and soaking in oil for a few days before rebuilding. I can't wait to shoot it! I'll be posting before and after pics when it's done.

**kev** · March 10, 2002, 19:28

1903 Greek Mannlicher Schoenauer. I have two; full length rifle and one of the carbines. Krag would be a close second; US, Danish, and Norwegian. I have one Danish that has been lightly sporterized and converted to .45-70,....really neat. Long Branch No4 receives honorable mention. That's the one I would choose for any serious purpose.

One thing they all have in common is a glass smooth action. I hate clunky guns. Guess that's why I like the FAL.

Coppertone · March 10, 2002, 22:14

My 1916-dated Swedish Carl Gustafs manufactured Model 1896B.... beautifully streamlined in appearance and sweetly accurate.

swingset · March 10, 2002, 23:13

K-31 swiss, or the 1911 swiss. Great rifles.

I also have a '43 Enfiend No.4 Mk1 with Parker Hale sights that will shoot MOA with handloads. Love that gun.

Mortech · March 10, 2002, 23:18

My No4 Mk2 Enfield , I trade a Charles Daly straight across for it ! SO we know who got the better of that deal

Squint · March 11, 2002, 00:09

Swedish Mauser

Queenie · March 11, 2002, 00:53

My Israeli K98. Its a good companion to my FAL.

tigerfans2 · March 11, 2002, 07:58

Like my 48's and my Persian and my No. 4 Mk II , etc..... BUT
definately one of my M39's, probably the worn, cracked stocked Sock-oh....... it's been there and it has Done that!

Munster30 · March 11, 2002, 08:48

Hmmm, my 1899 Oberndorf Swede. No, the M48 Mauser. No, let's see, the Persian Mauser. Oh wait, No, it's the WWII German beater.
Oh heck, it isn't one it's all of them.
The Persians are elegant; the Swedes are easy on the shoulder and classy looking; the 48's are brand new or look that way and the old Germans' could tell a story and very worthy of having.

Jeffrey K Hampshire · March 11, 2002, 10:06

My favorite has a little history, it is a K9k ZF41 german sniper that is extremely accurate. What makes it even better is that my uncle picked it up off the battlefield during (or immediatley after) the battle of the bulge. It is an AR (Mauser Borsigwalde) manufactured in 43 with a no prefex serial # of 166. You wouldnt think a 1.5 power scout type scope would be that accurate but just ask Ian Mor (see lake effect shootout in GD) this liitle baby will stack em even during 50 to 60 mile per hour cross winds and whiteouts, the Germans had confirmed kills with this model in excess of 500 meters so dont believe people that say the 8mm is enemic

ByronF · March 11, 2002, 10:28

I'm liking my Turk Mauser. Best $40 I ever spent. When I'm tempted to spend $40 on a night out on the town I'll just order another rifle instead.

Munster30 · March 11, 2002, 12:39

The Mauser Family.
Grandpa Sven, who migrated from Germany to Sweden in 1896. The years in Sweden were good to him; his tiger striped stock is in beautiful shape as is the deep bluing and almost pristine barrel.
Then there's Uncle Brno. Uncle Brno thinks he's an emporer or something. He's pretty tall and regal looking with all of his finery. He's dressed like an emporer to boot; beautifully figured wood that's lusturously finished. He has a deeply polished rich, almost black, blue finish and his barrel is pristine. He's a smooth guy and right on target when he speaks.
Then there's Uncle Heinz. Uncle Heinz was in the war and doesn't say too much anymore. When he does speak he's kind of off, but then again he was in the war. Heinz was born in 1944 and looks like he got carried and dragged throught about every desperate campaign during the closing year of that war.
We let Heinz come home with the intention of sending him to extensive re-hab, but then that would be kind of a shame.
The Mauser family sure got around, there are cousins in just about every country on Earth, each with their own coats of arms and unique little details. It's a great family.

**msnyder** · March 11, 2002, 14:42

Swedish M96. Best group I ever shot was out of one of these. (0.20" @ 100) I have 4 now.
3 Gustafs and 1 Obendorf.

DougW · March 11, 2002, 17:23

Fazakerly #5mk1, then either the #4mk1 Savage or the #4mk1 Long Branch.

Russ · March 11, 2002, 18:13

For character --Russian Mosin-nagant with emblem of Peter the Great just slightly scratched by some Bolshevik bastard.

Fun -- Nagants take it again --my teenage son shot one of my M44's (Polish Carbine) at the range after a pep talk from me--later on I asked him to describe to his brother what it was like to shoot. He just looked dazed and said: "....bbbbbbooooooooooommmmm!!!!""

Honorable mention goes to persian and swedish mausers for workmanship and appearance (people that hate guns will ask if they can hold these); the Fin39 is just a neat gun to mess with (unloaded) on a rainy night. Turk mauser is the classic beater-cruffler. The positve action on the Mk4 enfield is slick, but the weapon is more effective as a club than anything else. Thought the French MAS 36 was an idiotic investment until I saw "We Were Soldiers" --those french foriegn legion guys were actually working these things while the Viet's were charging them spraying AK's and SKS's ...and that was 1954, no less!!
Russ

Burner · March 11, 2002, 19:40

Russian M-91 1916 pre commie. Smooth as silk,and the longest thing at the range.
even has teeth marks in the buttstock.

gunhead · March 11, 2002, 21:35

My 1917 Remington Enfield(30-06) or my P-14 Winchester(.303) are the "Cat pajammas"

I don't see too many around these days & they always get looks at the Range

JeffJ · March 11, 2002, 22:23

Remington 03a4 with m84 scope hands down...

**kev** · March 11, 2002, 22:36

For character, this one wins,........

Boer War Mauser Carbine. Typically carved ZAR(South African Republic). The Boer soldier has carved his name in the forearm: J H Potcieter. The British soldier who apparently captured the rifle has carved his name in the butt: J J Webb. The Carbine still has the original leather sling and carbine sling ring.

For more pics, http://community.webshots.com/album/33030719IhxmPf

This one is serial 6291. If you look in the 1975 Guns and Ammo Annual, there's a nice article on Boer War mausers. On page 72 and 73 there's another carved carbine like this one, serial 6245.

Monster · March 12, 2002, 08:42

M39 VKT - Accurate, accurate, accurate. And in as issued condidtion (unit disk, use marks, etc.) that put this one on the short list of never-to-be-traded rifles.

My runner up is an Indian No.1MK3 grenade launching rifle. I really wanted to dislike this thing for it's crappy finish, heavy weight, and generally scary appearance, but it's a shooter. The bolt is a lot smoother than the M-N, too - a big deal for a lefty.

Dryfire · March 12, 2002, 12:44

My M-44, the entertainment value is like the 4th of July. I am also amazed how well it is made.

Blood of Tyrants · March 12, 2002, 12:54

The next one I get.

m1shooter · March 12, 2002, 18:24

The Swedish Mausers are deffinately the best shooters in bolt guns.
I have 2 K-31's and 2 M96's.
M96 is my favorite, what quality and the smoothest actions I've ever come across.
If you love bolts you need to get a Swede!

**HikerLT** · March 12, 2002, 18:50

my 1st choice - Swiss K31 -> most accurate of anything I have

2nd choice - 96 Swede Mauser - just slightly less accurate than the K31

3rd choice - Enfield Mk4 #2's.....love that adjustable micrometer sight

4th choice - the Steyr carbine in 8x56r - the recoil on this little carbine is brutal, the worst of anything I own. Always gets a lot of attention at the range. Also, has driven me to learn to reload this berdan primed case....

gk100 · March 12, 2002, 19:49

M-39 VKT smooth, accurate,

March 10, 2002, 08:59	#1
Slater Registered FALaholic #: 4697 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 691	Personal favorite milsurp bolt gun? What's yer own bestest milsurp? That unissued M-48 or that beat-to-crap old SMLE? I like my old Mosin-Nagant M91/30. Made in 1943, refurbed somewhere along the way, and surprisingly accurate for an old dinosaur.

March 10, 2002, 09:39	#3
medicmike Registered FALaholic #: 3183 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Southern Oregon Posts: 2,259	Have a sporterized 03a3 that I just love, great shooting rifle. __________________ "Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here." Captain John Parker at Lexington Green

March 10, 2002, 09:52	#6
charles isaac Registered FALaholic #: 891 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Great Dismal Swamp, North Carolina Posts: 624	US Krag Model 1898! One of the finest made bolt actions that you will ever see. Bolts work smooth as glass and very accurate. And most people don't know what the hell it is when they see it. Good to have something different at the range. __________________ Couch Commando on Refrigerator Recon

March 10, 2002, 12:51	#10
masman Registered FALaholic #: 781 Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 5,652	its a tossup between my yugo refurbed k-98 and my 91/30pu sniper. __________________ somethings wrong with the world when the best rapper is white.the best golfer is black.the french think that the us is arrogant and the germans don't want to go to war

March 10, 2002, 13:25	#12
'TUDE Registered FALaholic #: 704 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: N.Texas Posts: 6,491	Favorite milsurp bolt gun? It's hard but I would have to say one of my VZ-24's. It looks beat to death, and has definitely seen battle. There is still a 1/4 inch hunk of shrapnel imbedded in the butt, initials carved in the floorplate, and 4 tally marks cut into the trigger guard. Rifles with character are my favorite. Something that YOU KNOW has a long story behind its history is what appeals more to me. I have some unissued examples of various types, but they don't have the same "feel" to them as the battle worn examples do. __________________ http://smokefreequitmeter.com/index....nner/39345.png [/url]

March 10, 2002, 09:30	#2
heartland41 Registered FALaholic #: 939 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Iowa City, IA, U.S.A. Posts: 48	FR-8 Mauser. I got it as one of the u-fixems from century. After replacing the stock and handguard, it looks like it came straight from the arsenal.

March 10, 2002, 09:43	#4
redneck whitesox PBR Registered FALaholic #: 3776 Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 333	Right now my K31 is closest to my heart. __________________ There's No Place That I'd Rather Be Than Right Here....With My Redneck White Socks And Blue Ribbon Beer

March 10, 2002, 09:51	#5
bushka Registered FALaholic #: 5324 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: nj Posts: 168	what redneck said!!

March 10, 2002, 10:27	#7
gates Registered FALaholic #: 129 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: phx az Posts: 10,309	persian mauser! i have a unfired and one that i refinished-they are GREAT rifles - it will shoot 1 moa with port.198 grainers. my second would be the k31 and a close third is my vkt m-39. boys we live in GREAT milsurp times! i like my black rifles but these old bolt guns "speak" to me. aj [ March 10, 2002: Message edited by: gates ]

March 10, 2002, 11:25	#8
Sumoj275 Registered FALaholic #: 3417 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 1,454	Enfield family

March 10, 2002, 12:03	#9
JukkaR Registered FALaholic #: 3494 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 79	Bolt gun... ...Finnish m39 [ March 10, 2002: Message edited by: Jukka ]

March 10, 2002, 13:24	#11
CaptainCandy Registered FALaholic #: 3929 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brown Deer WI Posts: 104	it's a toss up between my m39 or MKIII* Chris

March 10, 2002, 13:32	#13
idsubgun "Comfortably Numb" Bronze Contributor FALaholic #: 3100 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Idaho Posts: 9,185	One of my two m94/14 Swede calvary carbines, a 1895 and a 1907. Love that 6.5x55 cartridge. __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum "If you wish for peace, prepare for war"

March 10, 2002, 13:56	#14
Fallschirmjäger Registered FALaholic #: 4830 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 262	Enfield No.4 Mk2, hands down. But, if I could have found a source for ammo, I might have bought a beautiful Steyr M95 (full length) at the local gun store, which might have become the favorite. __________________ "Sell crazy someplace else...We're all stocked up here."

March 10, 2002, 14:03	#15
Batman Registered FALaholic #: 513 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: SE, Michigan Posts: 2,048	I have a persian mauser and it's a tack driver. I love to shoot it when the guy next to me is shooting a Wheatherby and my groups are smaller!! Heheheheh. There is only about a grand difference in our set-up! __________________ Say what you mean and mean what you say. Those who are silent are understood to consent.

March 10, 2002, 15:38	#16
Kevin Registered FALaholic #: 12 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Garner, NC, USA Posts: 712	M-96 Swede. I've got one that's 99% and it's a tack driver. Wonderful quality. Cheers.

March 10, 2002, 16:13	#17
FALderal Registered FALaholic #: 5007 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: whereabouts unknown Posts: 192	Enfield #4 mk1 and then there's the sort of beat up but good shooter #5 Jungle carbine. __________________ "The Constitution shall never be construed... to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." Samuel Adams There is a fine line between a genius and a lunatic. Do not cross it! -anonymous He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. -Nietzsche

March 10, 2002, 16:26	#18
moses One of the original 400 Contributor FALaholic #: 392 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: charlotte nc usa Posts: 5,469	Enfield #4 mk 1 & 2 both tack drivers and you can't beat the 10 rd mag!and actions smooth as silk! my 03a3's I love also just as accurate but only 5 rds at a time! __________________ . Military rifle steel plate match schedule for 2013, March 9th, May 26th(Sunday), Sept. 14th & Nov. 9th AKA "8.47"

March 10, 2002, 16:28	#19
Regal Beagal Registered FALaholic #: 91 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: North Carolina-the beach Posts: 1,008	First place is a toss up between my VZ24 and my unissued M48A. The M48A is a tack driver due to the new barrel but the VZ24 is in more milsurp condition/character. For some reason the M48A's recoil is quite light compared to my other milsurp bolt guns. Second would be my M1917 Eddystone. It's only drawbacks compared to the mausers is the cock on close and the recoil of the 30-06 and the barrel is in poor shape but it still looks cool. Third would be my VKT M39. Not a show stopper but it's still "very" accurate. It's main draw back is the felt recoil of the 7.62x54. Talk about BRUTAL...! RB __________________ When the government fears the people there is Liberty. When the people fear the government there is Tyranny- Thomas Jefferson

March 10, 2002, 16:33	#20
marko16 Registered FALaholic #: 2810 Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 147	Any of my K98's, the process, inspections, and attention to detail. Very robust design.

March 10, 2002, 18:29	#21
XMAN AZEX's and Mojo's Personal BANNED Troll Contributor FALaholic #: 5539 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: FRONT ROOM KILLING DEMONIC CLOWNS Posts: 248	Finn M39 with out a doubt.Will most likely purchase a M44 and will get back with you. __________________ Can't sleep, clowns will eat me. Can't sleep, clowns will eat me. Can't sleep, clowns will eat me.

March 10, 2002, 18:33	#22
bookertbab Registered Contributor FALaholic #: 5217 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,376	My Swede M96b, it was made in 1903 and it is so sweet. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do for its 100th birthday, I'll probably just shoot it. [ March 10, 2002: Message edited by: bookertbab ] __________________ Careful with that axe, Eugene. NRA Life member.

March 10, 2002, 18:33	#23
skfullgun Moderator FALaholic #: 3756 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,740	A Polish M-44 I have affectionately dubbed "Thumper". If you've ever fired one, you know why!!! __________________ I'd like to spit some Beechnut in that dude's eyes, and shoot him with my ole .45!

March 10, 2002, 19:02	#24
sledgehammer Registered FALaholic #: 786 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Jacksonville, Texas Posts: 1,017	Anything German or Swiss, especially the K31.

March 10, 2002, 19:07	#25
law4fun Rest in Peace 03/03/1958 - 01/08/2008 FALaholic #: 1544 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Pryor, OK, USA Posts: 994	Toss up between a Finn M39 or a Finn refurb Ruskie 91/30. Both have actions as smooth as glass and virtually no recoil with the 54r cartridge. __________________ GOD BLESS AMERICA !!! TX-FNFAL - A Brigade of One

March 10, 2002, 19:20	#26
LAFAL Veteran Member Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 85 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Pineville, LA Posts: 1,848	1903A3- I started out getting a bubbaized sproter and it's being restored. Got the last pieces blued and soaking in oil for a few days before rebuilding. I can't wait to shoot it! I'll be posting before and after pics when it's done. __________________ -to AR is human. to FAL is divine!

March 10, 2002, 19:28	#27
kev Curio & Relic Contributor FALaholic #: 71 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Indiana and various others Posts: 3,774	1903 Greek Mannlicher Schoenauer. I have two; full length rifle and one of the carbines. Krag would be a close second; US, Danish, and Norwegian. I have one Danish that has been lightly sporterized and converted to .45-70,....really neat. Long Branch No4 receives honorable mention. That's the one I would choose for any serious purpose. One thing they all have in common is a glass smooth action. I hate clunky guns. Guess that's why I like the FAL. __________________ Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. RUE?

March 10, 2002, 22:14	#28
Coppertone Registered FALaholic #: 5517 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 73	My 1916-dated Swedish Carl Gustafs manufactured Model 1896B.... beautifully streamlined in appearance and sweetly accurate. __________________ Mossberg 590: because nothing says "Go away!" like a nine-shot 12 gauge with a bayonet!

March 10, 2002, 23:13	#29
swingset Registered FALaholic #: 4806 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Inner bowels of hell (ohio) Posts: 203	K-31 swiss, or the 1911 swiss. Great rifles. I also have a '43 Enfiend No.4 Mk1 with Parker Hale sights that will shoot MOA with handloads. Love that gun. __________________ "In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot." - Mark Twain

March 10, 2002, 23:18	#30
Mortech Registered FALaholic #: 5418 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Shelton Wa Posts: 38	My No4 Mk2 Enfield , I trade a Charles Daly straight across for it ! SO we know who got the better of that deal

March 11, 2002, 00:09	#31
Squint Registered FALaholic #: 95 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Goofy part of Virginia Posts: 1,008	Swedish Mauser __________________ http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member5581.png

March 11, 2002, 00:53	#32
Queenie Registered FALaholic #: 5544 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,025	My Israeli K98. Its a good companion to my FAL.

March 11, 2002, 07:58	#33
tigerfans2 Registered FALaholic #: 5284 Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,510	Like my 48's and my Persian and my No. 4 Mk II , etc..... BUT definately one of my M39's, probably the worn, cracked stocked Sock-oh....... it's been there and it has Done that!

March 11, 2002, 08:48	#34
Munster30 Registered FALaholic #: 3198 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 9,548	Hmmm, my 1899 Oberndorf Swede. No, the M48 Mauser. No, let's see, the Persian Mauser. Oh wait, No, it's the WWII German beater. Oh heck, it isn't one it's all of them. The Persians are elegant; the Swedes are easy on the shoulder and classy looking; the 48's are brand new or look that way and the old Germans' could tell a story and very worthy of having. __________________ “When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will take the strong horse” Osama bin Laden It has been the fault of both pacifism and liberalism in the past that they have ignored the immense burden of inherited evil under which society and civilization labour and have planned an imaginary world for an impossible humanity. We must recognize that we are living in an imperfect world in which human and superhuman forces of evil are at work and so long as those forces affect the political behaviour of mankind there can be no hope of abiding peace.

March 11, 2002, 10:06	#35
Jeffrey K Hampshire Registered FALaholic #: 2453 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cuba, NY, USA Posts: 488	My favorite has a little history, it is a K9k ZF41 german sniper that is extremely accurate. What makes it even better is that my uncle picked it up off the battlefield during (or immediatley after) the battle of the bulge. It is an AR (Mauser Borsigwalde) manufactured in 43 with a no prefex serial # of 166. You wouldnt think a 1.5 power scout type scope would be that accurate but just ask Ian Mor (see lake effect shootout in GD) this liitle baby will stack em even during 50 to 60 mile per hour cross winds and whiteouts, the Germans had confirmed kills with this model in excess of 500 meters so dont believe people that say the 8mm is enemic __________________ You can choose, which will it be? a baseball, a broken plate or the gun? The gun? you asked for it! BANG! BANG! HAH! HAH! HAH! (written by Holly A Hampshire 2000, age 9 years and very precocious to say the least)