Guys P.O. Won't Accept Rifle. Arrgghh!!

gman · June 03, 2012, 22:48

I bid on a near excellent condition P-14 Enfield, Winchester (har-har-har), but guy emails me to tell me FEDEX wants $98(!!!) to send it and I KNOW Priority will be less spendy, but guy told me his P.O. won't accept from individuals.

What is a collector to do!

I sent him the website addys for the P.O. regs and also the BATF's, hopefully he will be able to edumicate his Postmaster. If not...I don't know if I am willing to pay 1/4 of the cost of the rifle added on just for shipping. And the killer: FEDEX has no reps here in this tiny 'burg, so when it gets to Anchorage, they'll mail it to me via the P.O.! AAARRRggggghhh!

EinheitElf · June 04, 2012, 00:34

I say he should go to another PO location..... best of luck and I hope it reaches you safely...

I NEVER tell them what it is if it is firearm parts..I just insure it and make sure I have a invoice of some sort in case i need to claim a loss.... AFAIK-- IF THE RIFLE IS BROKEN DOWN then there is supposed to be NO issues...

That sucks... again best of luck...

**Stoney** · June 04, 2012, 08:19

pull the bolt and its just machine parts, send the bolt seperate

**W.E.G.** · June 04, 2012, 09:24

What manner of shipment did the seller promise in the contract?

Gazz · June 04, 2012, 09:59

It is legal for the PO to ship long guns to an FFL from an individual. Some of the clerks are not aware of that though. I once had an argument with a PO clerk when I tried to ship a reproduction musket, not even a firearm by federal law. He asked what was in the box since it was so long (which is against postal regulations -they can only ask liquid, perishable hazardous etc. - and I told him. Poor idiot just about had a cow so I told him to go look it up in the regs himself or get a supervisor. It took about a half hour for him to come back and he reluctantly took the package. I then reminded him that he is not supposed to ask me about what specifically is in the box and he repeated the liquid, perishable, hazardous line. So either have the seller go to another PO or demand that the clerk look up the regulations while he waits. Or even have him bring a copy of the regs with him.

Sperzuki · June 04, 2012, 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gazz

It is legal for the PO to ship long guns to an FFL from an individual. Some of the clerks are not aware of that though. I once had an argument with a PO clerk when I tried to ship a reproduction musket, not even a firearm by federal law. He asked what was in the box since it was so long (which is against postal regulations -they can only ask liquid, perishable hazardous etc. - and I told him. Poor idiot just about had a cow so I told him to go look it up in the regs himself or get a supervisor. It took about a half hour for him to come back and he reluctantly took the package. I then reminded him that he is not supposed to ask me about what specifically is in the box and he repeated the liquid, perishable, hazardous line. So either have the seller go to another PO or demand that the clerk look up the regulations while he waits. Or even have him bring a copy of the regs with him.

Yesss!!!

**Hebrew Battle Rifle** · June 09, 2012, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by W.E.G.

What manner of shipment did the seller promise in the contract?

Pertinent question.

dondone · June 13, 2012, 04:57

Next time tell him it's pool cues.

TideWater 41009 · June 17, 2012, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoney

pull the bolt and its just machine parts, send the bolt seperate

Not true. The receiver is still considered a firearm.

**gunplumber** · June 17, 2012, 19:37

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Originally Posted by TideWater 41009

Not true. The receiver is still considered a firearm.

Under federal law, not USPS shipping regulations - do not get them confused - they define things differently. A firearm receiver or frame by itself is a firearm under title 18 and 27 CFR but NOT under the postal regulation for how it must be shipped.

TideWater 41009 · June 20, 2012, 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunplumber

Under federal law, not USPS shipping regulations - do not get them confused - they define things differently. A firearm receiver or frame by itself is a firearm under title 18 and 27 CFR but NOT under the postal regulation for how it must be shipped.

That's a new one on me. Thank you for the correction.

June 03, 2012, 22:48	#1
gman Registered FALaholic #: 1176 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Great Frozen North Posts: 2,756	Guys P.O. Won't Accept Rifle. Arrgghh!! I bid on a near excellent condition P-14 Enfield, Winchester (har-har-har), but guy emails me to tell me FEDEX wants $98(!!!) to send it and I KNOW Priority will be less spendy, but guy told me his P.O. won't accept from individuals. What is a collector to do! I sent him the website addys for the P.O. regs and also the BATF's, hopefully he will be able to edumicate his Postmaster. If not...I don't know if I am willing to pay 1/4 of the cost of the rifle added on just for shipping. And the killer: FEDEX has no reps here in this tiny 'burg, so when it gets to Anchorage, they'll mail it to me via the P.O.! AAARRRggggghhh! __________________ ******************************** You can piddle with the puppies, or run with the wolves... Better living through chemistry.

June 04, 2012, 00:34	#2
EinheitElf Registered FALaholic #: 21533 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kommiefornia Posts: 2,218	I say he should go to another PO location..... best of luck and I hope it reaches you safely... I NEVER tell them what it is if it is firearm parts..I just insure it and make sure I have a invoice of some sort in case i need to claim a loss.... AFAIK-- IF THE RIFLE IS BROKEN DOWN then there is supposed to be NO issues... That sucks... again best of luck... __________________ http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ue_stealth.gif

June 04, 2012, 08:19	#3
Stoney Former 0311 Contributor FALaholic #: 1205 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Brush Prairie, WA USA Posts: 3,369	pull the bolt and its just machine parts, send the bolt seperate __________________ Stoney Bureaucracy,, taking the fun out of life one stupid rule at a time,,,, Old Viking saying: Never be more then two steps from your weapon Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading. - Thomas Jefferson

June 04, 2012, 09:24	#4
W.E.G. Administrator Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 1211 Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Virginia Posts: 31,108	What manner of shipment did the seller promise in the contract? __________________ . . . Ask me about the Mason-Dixon FAL Collectors Association.

June 04, 2012, 09:59	#5
Gazz Registered FALaholic #: 15159 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NH Posts: 1,948	It is legal for the PO to ship long guns to an FFL from an individual. Some of the clerks are not aware of that though. I once had an argument with a PO clerk when I tried to ship a reproduction musket, not even a firearm by federal law. He asked what was in the box since it was so long (which is against postal regulations -they can only ask liquid, perishable hazardous etc. - and I told him. Poor idiot just about had a cow so I told him to go look it up in the regs himself or get a supervisor. It took about a half hour for him to come back and he reluctantly took the package. I then reminded him that he is not supposed to ask me about what specifically is in the box and he repeated the liquid, perishable, hazardous line. So either have the seller go to another PO or demand that the clerk look up the regulations while he waits. Or even have him bring a copy of the regs with him. __________________ Gazz

June 13, 2012, 04:57	#8
dondone Registered FALaholic #: 66494 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 16	Next time tell him it's pool cues.

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