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Old April 14, 2012, 08:17   #1
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If you can only have one can???

Which mfr. ?

What caliber?

Does it make sense to choose 308, then put it on everything else, like 223 and 22, or does the can lose it's effectiveness??

Please explain your reasoning for each answer.

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Old April 26, 2012, 00:41   #2
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this is a damn good question for discussion...

I would say this. Get the most expensive can for the most expensive weapon you own that you love the most. Then... buy cheap ass cans for the other stuff you might want to put one on later.

This question is not really legit as after you get one you will get more... but it really depends on what you do most. My favorite is an integrally suppressed 22. But if you live way out in the desert and love the big .50 you might want something diff...

anyway... it is a mixed bag. But here is one thing... I wouldn't mix cans for mult alt calibers as you will be disappointed.
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Old April 27, 2012, 19:45   #3
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this is a damn good question for discussion...

I would say this. Get the most expensive can for the most expensive weapon you own that you love the most. Then... buy cheap ass cans for the other stuff you might want to put one on later.

This question is not really legit as after you get one you will get more... but it really depends on what you do most. My favorite is an integrally suppressed 22. But if you live way out in the desert and love the big .50 you might want something diff...

anyway... it is a mixed bag. But here is one thing... I wouldn't mix cans for mult alt calibers as you will be disappointed.
With a $200 tax stamp there is no such thing as a cheap can
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Old April 28, 2012, 17:13   #4
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vorpal has some insight............

thanks guys, keep 'em coming if you have more opines.
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Old April 28, 2012, 18:27   #5
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Honestly, if you could only have one, mine would be a .22 from one of the reputable companies.

I would want it to be as quiet as possible, and the quietest setup out there is for .22. If it can't be handled with a suppressed .22, then you need to stop being worried about a few extra decibles. IMO.
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Old April 28, 2012, 19:41   #6
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Before I got my .22 suppressor, I used to use my 5.56mm suppressor on my Ruger 10/22. A bit long and heavy, but it was very quiet. Same thread, so no adapters were needed.
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Old May 20, 2012, 13:31   #7
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With a $200 tax stamp there is no such thing as a cheap can
Unfortunately there are cheap cans out there and after the guys buy them, pay the $200 tax, wait unpteen months for the transfer and they end up very disappointed in its performance.

Those are the guys that post on the net that cans are a waste of money because they bought one and its not quiet like their buddy's cans.
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Old September 16, 2012, 16:44   #8
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With a $200 tax stamp there is no such thing as a cheap can
Agreed. No such animal exists.
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Old September 27, 2012, 19:50   #9
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I just got back from the Gunner Pool event today. Brought my 18 yr old son and an AWC Badlander.

He was impressed. More so when I poured water out of my bottle into the muzzle of it.
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Old October 03, 2012, 22:14   #10
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22 LR's are the bees knee's when it comes to quiet
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Old April 27, 2012, 13:06   #11
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Which mfr. ?

My best advice if seriously considering the purchase of a suppressor is to: 1) do a bit of quality research, 2) play-test whatever you’re able to, and finally, 3) buy the best quality you can afford. Consider that you're basically going to be keeping it the rest of your life. Better quality cans generally use exotic alloys like inconel for baffles. Cans made of titanium are lighter but also more expensive.

Short answer: AAC, Surefire, Gemtech, and OPS-Inc produce military grade products that will last a lifetime – they’re easy, no-brainers. My AAC cans are rated for a duty cycle of at least 30K rounds.


What caliber?

That kind of depends on what expectations you have for the suppressor: how you want it to perform, how you want to use it and how you plan to attach it. A 7.62 can will work for smaller calibers (like 6.8SPC) at some expense to sound reduction, but there may be issues in trying to mount it. For instance, most 7.62/.308 barrels are threaded 5/8x24 (some like FAL are 9/16 - metric rifles are LH thread) and most 5.56 barrels are 1/2x28. You might think you could simply use thread adapters, but . . . thats risky territory. Bore alignment is relatively critical to avoid BAD things like baffle strikes, so . . . I'd generally avoid using any adapters not supplied by the manufacturer of the suppressor.

I use a fast attach can for all my 5.56 ARs (AAC Omni) and a thread-on can for the .308 bolt gun (AAC Cyclone which also fits my 6.8). If you wanted to suppress both 7.62/.308 and 5.56, I'd recommend a dedicated can for each. For other reasons, a .22 rimfire needs its own.


Does it make sense to choose 308, then put it on everything else, like 223 and 22, or does the can lose it's effectiveness??

Probably not, as above, a 308 suppressor could be used across other calibers like 223, but .22 rimfire is filthy and is best served by a .22-specific can which can be disassembled for occasional cleaning. On the other hand, suppressors designed for centerfire rifle are best NOT-disassembled. Mounting issues aside, a 308 can would work fine on 223 - just not as quiet.

If you want to suppress a handgun (other than .22), I'd recommend a handgun-oriented can. Some handguns need a Nielsen device to reliably cycle the slide with the weight of a suppressor.

There's a lot of ground to cover here. If you have more questions, LMK.
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Old May 20, 2012, 21:00   #12
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Which mfr. ?


On the other hand, suppressors designed for centerfire rifle are best NOT-disassembled.
Totally false info. right there.
The Shark 308 can is a take apart suppressor & it works with no issues.
There's more user maintenance involved, nothing more.

We test fired our 308 suppressor against the Cyclone, Shark & Omega 30 & it did as well as the more expensive cans.

This is my Custom 308 bolt action with our 308 suppressor & it can be taken apart for cleaning.

It was a bit quieter on the 7.62x39
The only POI shift we got when fired on 5 different rifle was 1" down.
No windage (left-right) shift at all.

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Old May 21, 2012, 00:08   #13
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any one know of a user servicable can that can work with a qd flash supressor
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Old May 22, 2012, 00:35   #14
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any one know of a user servicable can that can work with a qd flash supressor
for what caliber?
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Old May 22, 2012, 13:57   #15
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