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Old December 07, 2011, 21:40   #1
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2012 Oregon locale

I say Pine Mt. Long range and good camp spots.

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Old December 07, 2011, 22:21   #2
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If thats where we were this year, I`ll second.
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Old December 08, 2011, 13:48   #3
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I'm with Rich, that was a fantastic spot!

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Old December 08, 2011, 18:22   #4
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Old January 18, 2012, 11:31   #5
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Great stuff! Seriously. hotels in windermere
Hi Don, welcome and curious first post!

Is Windermere Sponsoring our next event? I am thankful to have their support!
Is it cash, catering or accommodations? Even just a couple cases of Purple Puppy and Radaway Green would be welcome! Bring a Bren!!
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Old January 18, 2012, 11:41   #6
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He must be the owner. I'm headin' out Friday with the family to the closest one and tellin' 'em...."Don say's I can stay here....oh, and I'll need some extra rolls of TP sent to my room ASAP and the damn remote better not be missing."
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Old January 18, 2012, 12:49   #7
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I don't think the last location was bad at all. I think my favorite place hasn't been found yet, but it is true that the rain from last year might have been part of my problem. Then there was that 'clean' handgun run that got 'lost'...

I think I'm with Tailback on the dates, and the soon-to-be typical cool weather in early June. We did it the last week of June once, and it was 104* for a couple days in a row. Brutal. I think All FAL and Pluskat will remember it well. I know my kids do.

We moved it up to the third weekend in June (IIRC) to avoid school, graduations, etc. at one end, and the end of June/4th of July time frame in the event the end of June came near the 28th - 30th which *could* conceivably encroach on people's 4th of July plans either for work before the long weekend, or people taking an extended 4th holiday.

I'm planning on being there, but I'm not committing to this year's event. In my perfect world, the dates (whatever they end up being) coincide with the arrival of my brother, who hasn't been home in a long time. He is commissioning with the US Army in either late May or early June, and then he's headed to Corvallis for some R&R before heading to Ranger School and then to Italy for a couple or three years. It would be GREAT if he could make it to the FAL Shoot, since he's been hankering to show up to it since it first went off lo those many years ago...

Anyhoo, if the dates don't work, or if I'm helping him move out of the current place, or if something else is going on with him, I'm out. My steel is available for the good of the order, but someone will have to come get it. No drama, since, as I said, I'm planning on being there. I'll keep my eye on his dates, which become 'solid' sometime in April.

I'm trying not to cry as I think about missing fatties, chicken, and ABTs.... The King Shot was super great last year, when everyone was hanging out together and BSing. And trying to shoot .22s at the Sacred Trophy.

I suggest we get some things worked out ahead of time - like what the shoots will be, and what the 'contest' parts are, and how it will be measured. And if scopes, red dots, and iron sights will be treated the same in a 'contest' setting. This is that 'arms race' I was talking about three years ago. I loved the WWII surplus bolt gun events in the past, since everyone knew the deal, and it was fun to see all the different 'solutions' to 'surplus bolt gun': Mosin, Enfield, Mauser, K31 straight-pulls, etc. And everyone was on equal footing when Tat2 kicked the shit out of everyone else.

When it all comes down to it, I need to shoot more often so I can offer a little competition to Tat2.
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Old January 18, 2012, 13:05   #8
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Nice to see ya chime in BrunoP! How's your new year shaping up?

The only thing that will help us against the racegunner is if we tinker with his Dillon and boost his power factor >just< enough to delay his recoil recovery another hundredth or three... Over a 15 shot stage, that could mean an extra miss for the rest of us!
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Old December 17, 2011, 20:11   #9
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If I remember correctly, Snowhawk said that the 2011 spot was a dusty bad spot a couple weeks after we were there. Other than that, the location was great.

In my honest opinion, the shoot needs to be 2 to 3 weeks later this year. So far this has been the coldest/driest December in decades. Having cold daytime temps and rain East of Bend in June is going to be the new norm until solar activity ramps back up. (google Maunder minimum folks)

I'll be wherever is decided on. Hopefully my videos and pictures have convinced a couple of my gun enthusiast co-workers to attend. This year I'll remember my pillow so I won't have an ear splitting migraine from my neck arthritis flaring up.
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Old January 04, 2012, 00:55   #10
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Any word on the date? I am planning out my summer weekends and don't want to miss this shoot as I only had a few hours to attend last year (location was great!). Thanks.
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Old January 04, 2012, 15:26   #11
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It would behoove us to get that spot for the belt fed goodness coming along.
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Old January 17, 2012, 13:17   #12
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Howdy folks,
Last year's spot was swell. In retrospect, I think it was much better than the one we had scouted earlier, and then got displaced from at the last minute by Snowhawk's new....friends.

I'm wondering what has "changed" this year.....usually by this time, we've got the organizational stuff started and I've packed, unpacked, and re-packed my gear three times over. Not to mention the usual massive number of posts on the Oregon site in anticipation of the best weekend of the year. Oh well, we'll see if folks are just distracted with the day to day of life and have their priorities all wrong with grownup things like....careers, bills, home improvement projects, eating, and bathing.

I'm wondering what "advantage"cheat Tat2 will turn to THIS year? Last year was a scope...this year maybe a...(quotation marks with fingers)...LA..SER? Or...maybe a wee person with a wee hammer and a skillet hiding in the brush downrange to clang clang clang him to first place?
(oh the depths the competitive...lacking true talent, will stoop to for victory)

And now....uncharacteristically....I'll start the smack talk. The Sks trigger group goes into the mail tomorrow to Kivaari's. I meant to do it last year but it didn't happen and I regretted it so I'm gonna make sure it's done early. Other than TechnoCrutchman (Troy), you should all get resigned to gettin' whooped by a dude with a '51 Tula Arsenal Refurb'd Sks.....oh yeah.

Are we sticking to last year's "events"? Is brunop gonna show with his steel? Are 97% of the people who shoot the events gonna head on back to camp and NOT help pick up the steel just because THEY'RE done shooting? (wouldn't wanna break a trend) and yes, that needed to be said....AGAIN!

Are we even GOING to have an Oregon Fal Shoot this year?
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All right... guess now that "THE" Rally is over, I can come out of the woodwork.

So, location, location, location? Pine Mtn IS a great location, pending moisture.

Will the dates still be the traditional Father's Day weekend?

I hope I can get schooled by Team Tula, regardless of the triggerman.

Events didn't achieve the usual fervor last year...
Will Tat2 remember his pistol steel and stage book this time, and will Brunop, again, afford us his rifle steel?

Since I am selling out the rest of my toys, I might have to borrow sumthin ta' feed my remaining ammo to for some clock times...
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Are we sticking to last year's "events"? Is brunop gonna show with his steel? Are 97% of the people who shoot the events gonna head on back to camp and NOT help pick up the steel just because THEY'RE done shooting? (wouldn't wanna break a trend) and yes, that needed to be said....AGAIN!

Are we even GOING to have an Oregon Fal Shoot this year?
If you cook breakfast for everyone Saturday morning and quit bitchin about the steel I will take your place Saturday on steel clean-up.

See that way, by your own words, you are exempt from steel duties.
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Old January 18, 2012, 01:00   #15
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Howdy folks,
Last year's spot was swell. In retrospect, I think it was much better than the one we had scouted earlier, and then got displaced from at the last minute by Snowhawk's new....friends.

I'm wondering what has "changed" this year.....usually by this time, we've got the organizational stuff started and I've packed, unpacked, and re-packed my gear three times over. Not to mention the usual massive number of posts on the Oregon site in anticipation of the best weekend of the year. Oh well, we'll see if folks are just distracted with the day to day of life and have their priorities all wrong with grownup things like....careers, bills, home improvement projects, eating, and bathing.

I'm wondering what "advantage"cheat Tat2 will turn to THIS year? Last year was a scope...this year maybe a...(quotation marks with fingers)...LA..SER? Or...maybe a wee person with a wee hammer and a skillet hiding in the brush downrange to clang clang clang him to first place?
(oh the depths the competitive...lacking true talent, will stoop to for victory)

And now....uncharacteristically....I'll start the smack talk. The Sks trigger group goes into the mail tomorrow to Kivaari's. I meant to do it last year but it didn't happen and I regretted it so I'm gonna make sure it's done early. Other than TechnoCrutchman (Troy), you should all get resigned to gettin' whooped by a dude with a '51 Tula Arsenal Refurb'd Sks.....oh yeah.

Are we sticking to last year's "events"? Is brunop gonna show with his steel? Are 97% of the people who shoot the events gonna head on back to camp and NOT help pick up the steel just because THEY'RE done shooting? (wouldn't wanna break a trend) and yes, that needed to be said....AGAIN!

Are we even GOING to have an Oregon Fal Shoot this year?

I never saw the m44 marvel of Prineville resevoir, was it a Tula as well?
Curious how this latest adventure into eastern european arms demonstrations turns out. Will there be more material for non-ethnic jokes about which way the clip goes in and how to properly adjust the sights with heavy equipment? Of course something more Tantalizing could have happened but I recall last years episode was the 22lr zero on the 5.56 for kingshot, then again maybe I am the only one observing those details?

Anymore, I decided to pick one rifle and make it my mule. It will be a FAL. The rest will be sacrificed to the cash gods to buy a lightweight scope mount for it...Scar17.

Oh and why do you always gotta start talkin' this funny hygenic nonsense.
For someone that sits with the wolves in the morning, for his business,
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WOW! How did I miss this starting. Cool!


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Last year's spot was swell. In retrospect, I think it was much better than the one we had scouted earlier, and then got displaced from at the last minute by Snowhawk's new....friends.

Last years spot was cool by me.

T

I'm wondering what "advantage"cheat Tat2 will turn to THIS year? Last year was a scope...this year maybe a...(quotation marks with fingers)...LA..SER?

Hey!.... I played ring around the Rosie just like the rules stated.

T

And now....uncharacteristically....I'll start the smack talk. The Sks trigger group goes into the mail tomorrow to Kivaari's. I meant to do it last year but it didn't happen and I regretted it so I'm gonna make sure it's done early. Other than TechnoCrutchman (Troy), you should all get resigned to gettin' whooped by a dude with a '51 Tula Arsenal Refurb'd Sks.....oh yeah.

We can do an AK/SKS class if thats what people want. But it takes time....

T

Are we sticking to last year's "events"? Is brunop gonna show with his steel?
Are we even GOING to have an Oregon Fal Shoot this year?
I think we can come up with the best events from all years and I will
bring props/targets from my club. I do not have much rifle steel though.....

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If I remember correctly, Snowhawk said that the 2011 spot was a dusty bad spot a couple weeks after we were there. Other than that, the location was great.

In my honest opinion, the shoot needs to be 2 to 3 weeks later this year. So far this has been the coldest/driest December in decades. Having cold daytime temps and rain East of Bend in June is going to be the new norm until solar activity ramps back up. (google Maunder minimum folks)

I'll be wherever is decided on. Hopefully my videos and pictures have convinced a couple of my gun enthusiast co-workers to attend. This year I'll remember my pillow so I won't have an ear splitting migraine from my neck arthritis flaring up.

Nice heads up on the sunspot minimum business. Knew of it, hadn't seen it in direct relation to my day time high temp!
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NEW STEEL BABY!!!

I`m half done. I`ve got material to build 6 more of these, so we`ll have a total of 12 new poppers for clanging this year! The neighbors didn`t appreciate me starting the chop saw at 8am this morning, but I couldn`t let a beautiful day like today go by without putting it to good use!






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I knew there'd be some fun in your yard today, 4x401! Wish I'd pulled the drive over to play with that project. So with your plates and Brunopz pile we could have a double distance drop dozen+ instead of the usual one liner. All the good words about this years event are encouraging! Even if the Tat-meister can't attend, he can send the Trophy on, in forfeiture, for this years multi-match champ.
I am still angling for the gig and will have my target arrays ready to go into the poop palace truck as it rolls through Bend.
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I knew there'd be some fun in your yard today, 4x401! Wish I'd pulled the drive over to play with that project. So with your plates and Brunopz pile we could have a double distance drop dozen+ instead of the usual one liner. All the good words about this years event are encouraging! Even if the Tat-meister can't attend, he can send the Trophy on, in forfeiture, for this years multi-match champ.
I am still angling for the gig and will have my target arrays ready to go into the poop palace truck as it rolls through Bend.
Yea, I feel bad about not calling you over. But honestly, I`ve got some serious family and job drama going on at the moment. I just needed to get out today and do this stuff myself to escape from the grief. I plan to start tackling the new front Dana-60 install tomorrow. I want to have the cj ready by this fall. I`m figuring I`ll need it for the end of the world an `all.

So are you making the honey bucket reservations? I did volunteer to tow it out as well as chip in, since your encumbered with other chores. Thats still the plan right?
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Nice targets, Rich!


Anyone else (Snowhawk? Brunop?) planning on bringing kids? My wife has to work on the weekend, and I might have to bring my 3 year old and 5 year old. They're excited about it, but may get bored easily if they don't have others to play with.
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[QUOTE=4x401;3281879]Yea, I feel bad about not calling you over. But honestly, I plan to start tackling the new front Dana-60 install tomorrow. I want to have the cj ready by this fall. I`m figuring I`ll need it for the end of the world an `all.



Is that a new motor for the CJ sitting on the stand ?
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Those targets look amazing! Looking forward to a cool buncha targets to knock down.

4x401 - how much do you think it costs to build each one? Materials, time, everything?
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Yea, I feel bad about not calling you over. But honestly, I plan to start tackling the new front Dana-60 install tomorrow. I want to have the cj ready by this fall. I`m figuring I`ll need it for the end of the world an `all.



Is that a new motor for the CJ sitting on the stand ?
You mean this old thing?







Bottom end is pretty stock except for the the work I did cross drilling the crank and some other upgrades to improve oil flow. I appreciate the fact that AMC used forged rods & cranks in their 390/401 motors. Takes some of worry away from beefing the topend.
I also port matched the heads to the intake & headers, smoothed out the exhaust runners. Left the intakes alone. I can`t remember what cam I used, but its probably too big. Hoping for about 375HP.
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I`m half done. I`ve got material to build 6 more of these, so we`ll have a total of 12 new poppers for clanging this year! The neighbors didn`t appreciate me starting the chop saw at 8am this morning, but I couldn`t let a beautiful day like today go by without putting it to good use!






Out frakin standing my friend. Way to spend the time if not reloading.
Noise ordinance is usally 7, so no worries. Thickness of metal? AR?
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Out frakin standing my friend. Way to spend the time if not reloading.
Noise ordinance is usally 7, so no worries. Thickness of metal? AR?
Some 1/2" T-1 I picked up last year right after I got back from the shoot. Its very hard & heavy. Plan on tak`in a couple to the range next weekend to see how they work absorbing 5.56/7.62 hits. Proper design & my impecable welding skill should preclude the need for any future repairs (yea, we`ll see).
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Target testing:)

It was a good day to shoot! I even got the girls to come with me!

My targets held up well overall. They are a bit heavy for pooble shooter rounds past 50 + yards, but fall easy to .30 cal hits.
The T-1 steel DID NOT fair well to M855, severe cratering can be seen in the video. Oh well, I`ll fill the holes with 7018 and move on. They need to have the pivot point moved forward if they are going to fall to hits of anything less than 200+ grains.
I`ll change a couple things and try again next weekend.

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Nice shooting, man!! Forget Tat2 - here comes 4x401...

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It was a good day to shoot! I even got the girls to come with me!

My targets held up well overall. They are a bit heavy for pooble shooter rounds past 50 + yards, but fall easy to .30 cal hits.
The T-1 steel DID NOT fair well to M855, severe cratering can be seen in the video. Oh well, I`ll fill the holes with 7018 and move on. They need to have the pivot point moved forward if they are going to fall to hits of anything less than 200+ grains.
I`ll change a couple things and try again next weekend.

Need some AR500? I have a source to get targets cut out of it.

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Old February 12, 2012, 01:18   #30
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Need some AR500? I have a source to get targets cut out of it.

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I appreciate the offer, but its probably WAY out of my price range.
I`ve got $150 and about 24 hrs. work wrapped up in the 12 I`ve already built. I pick up scrap steel on jobs I work most of the time, thats where all my other build materials came from. In other words, if I can`t get it for next to nothing, I can`t afford it.
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Old February 12, 2012, 01:25   #31
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If you shot that 855 at 50 yards its no surprise.

Who uses that stuff anyways?
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Old February 12, 2012, 01:57   #32
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Who uses that stuff anyways?

Pow` white folks mostly.

The way I have these built, they just aren`t going to fall without a good solid hit on the main round section or above. They can be adjusted to accomadate smaller caliber hits. But that comes with the cost of presenting a minimum aspect of the target from the firing line.

I`m mean really whats our focus here, good solid hits, or simply "scoring" a target?
After the fiasco last year (which I feel bad about BTW), my humble opinion is if it don`t fall, it don`t count.

Need some opinions here boys.
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This may be too complicated, but can you reweld them on top of the round bar
they pivot on. Then weld a plate in front with a big bolt thru it that can be adjusted to "set" the target. the bolt is adjusted to calibrate the popper.

That would allow you to calibrate them to fall with lighter hits.


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