Need some ID help.

biggun · December 24, 2010, 21:51

I have a chance to buy some 9mm para. The person who has it says the headstamp is two stars with the numbers 11 and 52. It is in a crate that says imported by Interarms of Alexandria Va and 2000 rounds non corrosive. The headstamp guides give it possibly being made in Yugoslavia, China, or South Africa. They want $450 for the 2000 rounds. Is this information correct and is this a decent buy?

jefferyc22 · December 25, 2010, 18:32

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Originally posted by biggun
I have a chance to buy some 9mm para. The person who has it says the headstamp is two stars with the numbers 11 and 52. It is in a crate that says imported by Interarms of Alexandria Va and 2000 rounds non corrosive. The headstamp guides give it possibly being made in Yugoslavia, China, or South Africa. They want $450 for the 2000 rounds. Is this information correct and is this a decent buy?

I don't know much about pistol rounds but my money is on chicom and 22.5 cents a round sounds expensive even for non corrosive. Someone will come along that knows the species.

Shay · December 27, 2010, 13:56

It is Yugoslavian Military surplus from 1952.
Interarms imported a lot of surplus ammo from countries like Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia way back when to sell on the US commercial market.

check this page out.
http://books.google.com/books?id=3a9...page&q&f=false
...If you scroll down a few pages to the Yugoslavian headstamp section there is one shown that is exactly how you describe only dated 53 instead of 52.
I don't have any experience with the Yugo 9mm Para from that period, but judging from their 1950s 8mm Mauser, I would count on hard primers and weak brass. Also, it will be berdan primed and will definitely be corrosive no matter what the case or the seller says.
I would personally pass at that price, since I would likely pull down most of it for the powder and bullets. If it were ten cents a round, maybe.

ammolab · December 27, 2010, 15:58

Check AIM Surplus for brand new LVE (Russian) 9mm for about 17cents/rd delivered. I just bought several cases and it is NONcorrosive and decent quality practice/plinking ammo.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...Box&groupid=46

They will also sell you new Swiss GECO Boxer/Noncorrosive 9mm for less than those guys want for that 50year old surplus!

biggun · December 29, 2010, 00:15

Thanks guys. You confirmed what I already suspected.

Kevin · January 02, 2011, 19:21

I believe it's Czech and would be corrosive. Wal-Mart has 250 round boxes of brand new Rem-UMC headstamped 9mm 115 gr FMJ for $51.

Not a deal in my opinion.

Kev

JasonB · January 02, 2011, 20:23

I think this is the same stuff:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...highlight=yugo

biggun · January 02, 2011, 22:43

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Originally posted by JasonB
I think this is the same stuff:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showt...highlight=yugo

Thats the stuff.

December 24, 2010, 21:51	#1
biggun Registered FALaholic #: 3178 Join Date: May 2001 Location: ky Posts: 643	Need some ID help. I have a chance to buy some 9mm para. The person who has it says the headstamp is two stars with the numbers 11 and 52. It is in a crate that says imported by Interarms of Alexandria Va and 2000 rounds non corrosive. The headstamp guides give it possibly being made in Yugoslavia, China, or South Africa. They want $450 for the 2000 rounds. Is this information correct and is this a decent buy? __________________ "Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes." Cat killer extraordinar!!!!!

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biggun Registered FALaholic #: 3178 Join Date: May 2001 Location: ky Posts: 643	Thanks guys. You confirmed what I already suspected. __________________ "Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes." Cat killer extraordinar!!!!!

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December 27, 2010, 13:56	#3
Shay Registered FALaholic #: 31471 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 71	It is Yugoslavian Military surplus from 1952. Interarms imported a lot of surplus ammo from countries like Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia way back when to sell on the US commercial market. check this page out. http://books.google.com/books?id=3a9...page&q&f=false ...If you scroll down a few pages to the Yugoslavian headstamp section there is one shown that is exactly how you describe only dated 53 instead of 52. I don't have any experience with the Yugo 9mm Para from that period, but judging from their 1950s 8mm Mauser, I would count on hard primers and weak brass. Also, it will be berdan primed and will definitely be corrosive no matter what the case or the seller says. I would personally pass at that price, since I would likely pull down most of it for the powder and bullets. If it were ten cents a round, maybe.

December 27, 2010, 15:58	#4
ammolab Registered FALaholic #: 10923 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,692	Check AIM Surplus for brand new LVE (Russian) 9mm for about 17cents/rd delivered. I just bought several cases and it is NONcorrosive and decent quality practice/plinking ammo. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...Box&groupid=46 They will also sell you new Swiss GECO Boxer/Noncorrosive 9mm for less than those guys want for that 50year old surplus!

January 02, 2011, 19:21	#6
Kevin Registered FALaholic #: 12 Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Garner, NC, USA Posts: 712	I believe it's Czech and would be corrosive. Wal-Mart has 250 round boxes of brand new Rem-UMC headstamped 9mm 115 gr FMJ for $51. Not a deal in my opinion. Kev