What kind of gun do I have here??

**big44man** · November 01, 2009, 23:15

I've got this 1911 style pistol in .38 Super, looks really nice (probably been re-finished), shoots great (better than I do), but I can't find a manufacturer name or country of origin. Suspect it probably an Argentine Ballister-Molina, but that is just a hunch from someone who looked at it. It has a five digit serial number on the right side of the frame, above the trigger opening, and a faint proof mark (I think) behind that. Any ideas??
I'll try to include pictures, if I can figure out how to do it.
Thanks
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aardq · November 01, 2009, 23:46

Hard to tell anything from that picture. How about a few more, including a full side view of each side.

Dan

**big44man** · November 02, 2009, 15:43

Hope these make it clearer.

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mutter · November 02, 2009, 17:05

Probably a spanish star in 9 by 21 bergman

nwobhm · November 02, 2009, 17:10

My guess is a Llama with the markings wiped from the slide. Almost looks like one of the Loooong versions.

nwobhm · November 02, 2009, 17:18

Yup. It's a 9mm Largo. Llama, worth around $200 in like new condition and much less when screwed with. I had one for a short time, kinda cool in it's own way.

Info here:

http://www.9mmlargo.com/index.htm

**big44man** · November 02, 2009, 17:30

Say, thanks guys, I figured it had to be something like that.
It runs pretty good with .38 Super ammo, is that good or bad for it?

**big44man** · November 02, 2009, 17:46

Just went to the 9mmlargo site, compared the gun with the pictures there, it is definitely a Llama Extra, it has the extra 1/8" protrusion of the barrel, nine shot magazine, and the Gabilondo y Cia trademark is exactly what I have, in the exact same position.
Really appreciate all the help.

nwobhm · November 02, 2009, 17:51

IIRC you should only use 9mm Largo in it. I think they did some in 38 Super but I would make certain it was a 38 Super bbl before I would take the chance. Could be a very dangerous situation.

**big44man** · November 07, 2009, 16:16

OK, took it to my gunsmitty, he gonna make a cast of the chamber and try to figure out if it is a .38 Super or a 9mm Largo. He says the differences in size are very small, but the most important thing would be that the .38 Super runs at a lot higher pressure than the 9MM Largo.

November 01, 2009, 23:15	#1
big44man No longer lonesome Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 44868 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Beach VA Posts: 431	What kind of gun do I have here?? I've got this 1911 style pistol in .38 Super, looks really nice (probably been re-finished), shoots great (better than I do), but I can't find a manufacturer name or country of origin. Suspect it probably an Argentine Ballister-Molina, but that is just a hunch from someone who looked at it. It has a five digit serial number on the right side of the frame, above the trigger opening, and a faint proof mark (I think) behind that. Any ideas?? I'll try to include pictures, if I can figure out how to do it. Thanks [IMG][/IMG]

November 02, 2009, 15:43	#3
big44man No longer lonesome Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 44868 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Beach VA Posts: 431	Hope these make it clearer. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]

November 02, 2009, 17:30	#7
big44man No longer lonesome Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 44868 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Beach VA Posts: 431	Say, thanks guys, I figured it had to be something like that. It runs pretty good with .38 Super ammo, is that good or bad for it? __________________ Government is like salt. A small amount is necessary, but as the amount grows, it becomes increasingly bitter, and will eventually kill you. NRA Instructor Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun. CCW Instructor.

November 02, 2009, 17:46	#8
big44man No longer lonesome Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 44868 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Beach VA Posts: 431	Just went to the 9mmlargo site, compared the gun with the pictures there, it is definitely a Llama Extra, it has the extra 1/8" protrusion of the barrel, nine shot magazine, and the Gabilondo y Cia trademark is exactly what I have, in the exact same position. Really appreciate all the help. __________________ Government is like salt. A small amount is necessary, but as the amount grows, it becomes increasingly bitter, and will eventually kill you. NRA Instructor Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun. CCW Instructor.

November 07, 2009, 16:16	#10
big44man No longer lonesome Silver Contributor FALaholic #: 44868 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Virginia Beach VA Posts: 431	OK, took it to my gunsmitty, he gonna make a cast of the chamber and try to figure out if it is a .38 Super or a 9mm Largo. He says the differences in size are very small, but the most important thing would be that the .38 Super runs at a lot higher pressure than the 9MM Largo. __________________ Government is like salt. A small amount is necessary, but as the amount grows, it becomes increasingly bitter, and will eventually kill you. NRA Instructor Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun. CCW Instructor.

November 01, 2009, 23:46	#2
aardq Registered FALaholic #: 18645 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Flint Area Posts: 1,167	Hard to tell anything from that picture. How about a few more, including a full side view of each side. Dan

November 02, 2009, 17:05	#4
mutter Registered FALaholic #: 22871 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,032	Probably a spanish star in 9 by 21 bergman

November 02, 2009, 17:10	#5
nwobhm ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ FALaholic #: 9580 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,012	My guess is a Llama with the markings wiped from the slide. Almost looks like one of the Loooong versions.

November 02, 2009, 17:51	#9
nwobhm ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ FALaholic #: 9580 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,012	IIRC you should only use 9mm Largo in it. I think they did some in 38 Super but I would make certain it was a 38 Super bbl before I would take the chance. Could be a very dangerous situation.

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