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Bubacus October 16, 2017 19:54

Falklands War Gun History
 
Wow...Great pics and info on the guns used in the Falklands by the Argentinians..Use Google Translate to get the text in English. Didn't know that the High Standard A10 and BM59's were used down there:

Original Site
https://www.taringa.net/posts/info/1...-Malvinas.html

Translated Site:
https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://...pg?w=497&h=372

https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://...pg?w=497&h=328

Retired Bum October 16, 2017 20:22

I recall reading that the majority of the Argentine army troops were conscripts who didn't want to fight anybody let alone the professional British Royal Army and Marines. There was a Ghurka unit there as well.

The British captured a lot of small arms and ammo. Shipped it back to the U.K. as war booty. I wonder what became of all those FAL's?

And so it goes.


The Retired One

VALMET October 16, 2017 21:20

Those Hi-Standard shotguns are goofy things. Had no idea they ever made an appearance in an international conflict.

the gman October 16, 2017 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retired Bum (Post 4490545)
I recall reading that the majority of the Argentine army troops were conscripts who didn't want to fight anybody let alone the professional British Royal Army and Marines. There was a Ghurka unit there as well.

The British captured a lot of small arms and ammo. Shipped it back to the U.K. as war booty. I wonder what became of all those FAL's?

And so it goes.


The Retired One

Nope. The vast majority was sea dumped off the islands and never made it back to the UK. They were held in storage in the Falklands while decisions were made on whether to incorporate the Para FAL's into UK service or not. Ultimately, the decision was reached that the idea was more trouble than it was worth and order was given to dump them. A buddy of mine was one of the largest importers of military firearms in the UK and begged to buy them but was turned down by the Ministry of Defence. Taking full autos and converting them to semi then selling them to civilians was perfectly legal back then in the UK. Oh how things have changed... :mad::mad:

There were plenty of trophies brought back for official collections but not many by regular soldiers as the penalties for illegal possession of weapons in the UK are harsh. More than a few blokes had Argy pistols and Para's but the rumor was spread that the Royal Military Police were going to 100% search every kit bag etc. Lots of guns got dumped just before the ships hit port, only to find the rumor wasn't true and no searches took place... :eek::cry::cry:

FYI, it's the Royal Navy, Royal Air Force and the Royal Marines but it's just the British Army; no Royal required... :tongue:

gew98 October 17, 2017 04:06

Got a buddy whom many years ago befriended a retired USAF officer. He got from him a first pattern DEAC argie para. The retired guy got it from a former brit officer. It was a falklands trophy. Retired airforce guy said he just shoved it in his golfbag on the way home.... ah those were the days.

Bubacus October 17, 2017 06:07

I was also suprised to see their copy of the M3 Grease gun, The PAM-2, used as well as Uzi's

https://ugc.kn3.net/i/origin/http://...pg?w=497&h=249

Shame about those weapons being dumped in the ocean:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/....jpg?strip=all

lew October 17, 2017 12:55

Outstanding!

Oddities aside, the Ches didn't lose for lack of excellent weapons.

ExCdnSoldierInTx October 17, 2017 14:54

Oh what I'd give for that cake decorator.

What happened in Britain is exactly why we must all remain 100% hard assed when it comes to pols trying top tighten the noose even one little bit for "safety and security".

wanneroo October 22, 2017 20:24

I heard some of the Argie FAL's were demilled and repurposed as drill rifles for troops in training in the UK. I've also heard the SAS had some in inventory during the 1980's as well.

Riversidesports October 22, 2017 22:51

The main one that I snickered at were the semi auto High Standard 10 Bullpup 12 gauge riot guns, both A & B series

Pretty much ignored, these were the first factory Bullpups offered anywhere.
at roughly 26"s overall you could sling one under the armpit and easily conceal under a longer jacket or coat.

Heard rumors there were small contracts to Asia, the ME & South America as well as Africa. For the 1960s they were damned unique

the gman October 22, 2017 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanneroo (Post 4492968)
I heard some of the Argie FAL's were demilled and repurposed as drill rifles for troops in training in the UK. I've also heard the SAS had some in inventory during the 1980's as well.

The hooligans in Hereford can have anything they want and I don't doubt that a few Argy rifles made into their service. As to drill rifles? I never personally saw any but many of the original FN trials rifles were used for Para and SAS training after being heavily bastardized... :eek::eek:

embatp October 23, 2017 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by the gman (Post 4493017)
The hooligans in Hereford can have anything they want and I don't doubt that a few Argy rifles made into their service. As to drill rifles? I never personally saw any but many of the original FN trials rifles were used for Para and SAS training after being heavily bastardized... :eek::eek:

I seem to remember an sas training documentary and the candidates were drilling with argy bring backs....

flejl October 23, 2017 18:10

what a waste.....

But good old Bill Clinton did something just as bad to all of those "evil M14s"...politicians suck.

enbloc8 October 23, 2017 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by flejl (Post 4493323)
what a waste.....

But good old Bill Clinton did something just as bad to all of those "evil M14s"...politicians suck.

The ones still serving in the Baltic nations?

flejl October 24, 2017 07:36

and the ones that went to the shredder....

0302 October 28, 2017 00:37

i met a royal marine color sergeant falkland vet & he said the slr was "lost" & replaced with the fn fal para whenever convenient.

skiprat October 28, 2017 05:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by embatp (Post 4493036)
I seem to remember an sas training documentary and the candidates were drilling with argy bring backs....

The SAS trained with the remains of the X8's (E1,E2's) that had been chopped and made into the L38 DP.


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