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NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:15
I thought I would post some pics of the different official configurations of the following

C2
C2A1
L2A1 (prototype)
L2A1 (production)
L2A1 f/w recoil reducer (Mayala & Singapore)
L2A1 "Trinidad" f/w canadian 1000 m rear sight
L2A1 Lithgow SAF modification Instruction version 1
L2A1 Lithgow SAF modification Instruction version 2


Let's start at the begining with the first HB produced... the

Canadian C2 (1958 - 1960)
This rifle differs from the Australian L2A1 for the following reasons

Inch receiver lightning cuts the same as a Metric Type 1
Non sand cut carrier
Non sand cut breech block
Operatonal bolt holding open device
Wooden carry handle
First version of butt
First version of butt plate
Different type of rear sling swivel
First version of magazine catch
1000 m tangent sight / stripper clip loading half body cover
First version of body locking lever ('Beehive')

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:17
Canadian C2A1 (1960 - 1988)

With the following modifications the C2 was developed into the C2A1
plastic carry handle
version 3 firing pin, spring and breech block
1000 m disk rear sight
standard stripper clip half cover
new short body locking lever
second model butt. (different profile)
second model butt plate

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:20
Australian L2A1 prototype (1961) the only one to be sent to New Zealand

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:23
Australian L2A1 (1961 - 1988)

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:26
Australian L2A1 f/w recoil reducer (Mayala & Singapore) from 1962 onwards

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:28
Australian L2A1 for Trinidad f/w canadian 1000 m rear sight

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:30
Australian L2A1 Lithgow SAF modification Instruction version 1(1980)

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:32
Australian L2A1 Lithgow SAF modification Instruction version 2(1980)

Dean P
July 25, 2002, 20:35
Kevin,
You have a boo boo, that's a C2 instead of a C1! :biggrin:

EMDII
July 25, 2002, 20:44
Yup. Ems C2s, not C1s!

But they shore are some purty pictures!

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 20:48
It was a test to see if you were awake :rofl:

Dwalton
July 25, 2002, 21:24
Does anyone else get the mental picture whenever Kevin posts , of a man who lives on a mountain top , in a cave , which is a HUGE gun vault ? :)

Kevin would you be so kind as to take a picture sometime of just the C2 carry handle , with maybe a ruler . Or if you are really board perhaps take a couple of dimensions for me ?

Oh , and thank god you seem to have found MY C2 tangent rear sight ! I'll e-mail you later with my addy , so it can be on it's merry way ! :D ( I can try , right ? )


DJW

buzzbomb
July 25, 2002, 21:55
some really nice pieces there!

Brian in MN
July 25, 2002, 22:30
Kevin, are the Aussie and NZ L2's encountered with a mix of parked and painted parts on the same rifle? If so, are these mixes the result of repair & replacement or did the rifles leave the factory that way?

John Culver
July 25, 2002, 22:53
I'm trying to build a library of sort of images of the different FALs. DO you have any more?

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 25, 2002, 23:13
Dwalton:
"Does anyone else get the mental picture whenever Kevin posts , of a man who lives on a mountain top , in a cave , which is a HUGE gun vault ?"

Welllllllll I do live on top of a mountain :)
not quiet in a cave
and I would like to build a HUGE "museum room'

Kevin would you be so kind as to take a picture sometime of just the C2 carry handle , with maybe a ruler . Or if you are really board perhaps take a couple of dimensions for me ?

I would take some pics for you BUT I have been creative in photoshop and had to create the C2 carry handle. The pic of the C2 and C2A1 are 'representitive' of the real rifles..... I don't have any real ones :sad:


Oh , and thank god you seem to have found MY C2 tangent rear sight ! I'll e-mail you later with my addy , so it can be on it's merry way ! ( I can try , right ? )

putting the sight in the safe and locking it then sitting a big hungry dog in front of it. :D


Brian in MN:
All Australian rifles prior to 1971 where only phosphated after that time Lithgow started 'stoving' the parts to extend the longevity of the finish. It is not uncommon to have 'stoving' finished parts on rifles that were in service as what ever was in the storage bin would have been used. Hence the mix of finishes on the parts.

Sometrimes parts or repairs would alo be painted in acordance with the armourers instructions.


John Culver:
yes i have a few more pics of my rifles, parts and accessories that you can see at my photo albums at the printroom.com site. My user name is: nzl1a1collector

here's a link I hope it worksmy photo albums (http://www.printroom.com/pictureSearch.asp?userlike=nzl1a1collector&albumname=&image=&eventDate=)

FAL_FREAK
July 26, 2002, 00:11
They're all so prudy. Kinda like pokemon..... I gotta collect them all!!! :)

1feral1
July 26, 2002, 03:08
Kevin. Again I am speechless! Bewt AR's!

Yesterday ran into about 7 L1A1s with plastic UK butts. That was 7/200 SLRS brought in by a unit. Had a squizz, the majority AD71s. All deemed for Port Kembla.

Email me if you want the story....
Cheers, 1feral1